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Yeah the healthcare system there sounds quite broken since the whole opiod crisis and Law Enforcement going after all the doctors who were prescribing. Now no dooctors want to prescribe any painkillers because they are scared of what the consequences might be.

Here in the UK it's fairly easy to get a prescription for cocodamols, dihydracodienes or if you are in really severe pain in hospital (broken bones etc) they might give morphine. I was in so much pain in hospital last April with a broken wrist, and the morphine still wasn't cutting it. The nurses were discussing giving me the hospital grade diamorphine (pharmacutrical heroin), I was almost gutted they didn't give me it. Could have been another one to tick off the bucket list so to speak. 😂

Anyway I digress, my point was it is much easier to get prescribed painkillers these days in the UK than it is in the US. A stark contrast to the situation 10 years ago I'm sure you'll agree.
Depends I aways get morphine, I don't like morphine but one area hospital that hates me always used dilauded and Ativan, nice together. But doctors have been intimidated and can't write for hardly any thing but I do get 40mg oxycodone, 30mg of Valium, gabapentin, and clonidine a day. I got banned for a week for mentioning the political party that has lowered things in my state and the country. 100,000 a year dead from fent and boarders open and pain patients suffer. I would give advice who to go to, but that got me in trouble too. The truth doesn't matter if you are on the wrong side. Besides the care at UK hospitals, is sad especially for those who can't afford private doctors even then, the care is worse than when I was on Medicaid. No long lines for treatment, just a ridiculous war on pain patients while fentanyl streams in. The Medical care in most countries with socialized medicine is terrible. I hear complaints from everyone, and I mean everyone,mate. In the hospitals no complaints, but outside it is a nightmare. It has gotten worse in the last couple of years. People are expected to tough it out more, I gave up my 24/7 morphine script because I didn't need it and I don't process morphine orally well. But there are no waits for advanced treatment and people don't die waiting for care here, yes it is worse, but so is it everywhere, but not for painkillers, if you get to see a doctor in many countries. Other than costs, blame the lawsuits, unnecessary tests and the whole war on pain patients, like me but at least I can see a doctor anytime. I was treated better on Medicaid than most people in countries with socialized medicine. I hear the complaints from Canada, UK, New Zealand and other places. Our Healthcare is so bloated because of lawsuits, unnecessary tests and the notion that keeps getting worse, pain management. But there are issues that should change but the politicians and special interests groups have made it a mess. My deceased father started med school in the 1970's. And got ill from covid in 2021, he told me about all the unnecessary shit they do running up costs and rampant fraud, but who gets screwed the people buying insurance, most have it through employers and companies can no longer discriminate against existing conditions. I know what type of doctors to go to if you are in pain, but if I share that, trust me I know, I will be in trouble. The truth is outweighed by political correctness.
Pain is dealt with in hospitals, but outside them you are screwed, you are a lot better off, but I will get in trouble for sharing the truth, all members of my family dealt with pain. This will not change until their is public outcry, but now it is make people deal with the pain. This has become political and neither party will do anything to correct it. In fact my dad a physician, a surgeon non the less was treated like crap by a so called pain management doctor. All these people dying from illegal fent, nothing being done and pain patients suffering. I have cirrhosis of the liver and pancreas problems. My pain is somewhat managed and I was assured when it gets bad before I die, probably in the near future I will get more, I will have to wait and see. The real question is will I get the pain meds I need or.......
 
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That's still quite a nice daily script you've got there man. I can imagine 30mg valium a day is enough to keep you calm, and 40mg of oxycodone is enough I'd be high all day.

Yeah I never found private here in the UK to be that great. None of the departments seemed to link, so you have to constantly hassle them all and keep track of everything yourself as they don't communicate between each other at all. Basically if you've no idea what's wrong with you, or no medical knowledge/understanding it's a struggle still. The big advantage is it's much quicker getting treatment than our National Health Service, which is severely backed up since Covid.
 
That's still quite a nice daily script you've got there man. I can imagine 30mg valium a day is enough to keep you calm, and 40mg of oxycodone is enough I'd be high all day.

Yeah I never found private here in the UK to be that great. None of the departments seemed to link, so you have to constantly hassle them all and keep track of everything yourself as they don't communicate between each other at all. Basically if you've no idea what's wrong with you, or no medical knowledge/understanding it's a struggle still. The big advantage is it's much quicker getting treatment than our National Health Service, which is severely backed up since Covid.
such a lovely script honestly. i wish doctors scripted valium here more often. by far my favorite benzo
 
Yes indeed. I am working on getting a script of these. If I could I would use a benzo again prn. Right !!!!!!!!!!!
So I did a remote appt. with a doctor from SD. . . . During the Covid . . . I asked for some valium. She said well we really don't give valium anymore.

I don't get what she was on about. But I asked if I could please get a prescription.

I ended up with a low dose of prescription of xanax instead.

I finally said I would settle for ONE pill of valium or a xan over anything else. I said I will settle for just ONE Please.

I could've fckn cried.

So I got a script with one refill of xan's 2.5mg's.

I don't think she spoke english very well. But I know she knew what I wanted. But fck me anyway. Who cares, right !!!!!!!!!!

I Just Want A F'n Valium. <3
 
such a lovely script honestly. i wish doctors scripted valium here more often. by far my favorite benzo

Definitely the best all round benzo. I hate xanax and clonazepam. Temazepam is the only other one that gives enough muscle relaxation and anxiety relief that I actually enjoy it's effects.
 
Definitely the best all round benzo. I hate xanax and clonazepam. Temazepam is the only other one that gives enough muscle relaxation and anxiety relief that I actually enjoy it's effects.
Yea but 90, 10mg for 30 days and only 3 refills😊
 
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I prefer Ativan and klonopin which I can literally by the bucket load. Can’t get Valium for some reason (at least not on the street) doctors here in nz are very very strict with their prescribing. The American pharma crisis has scared them to death and they don’t want any blood on their hands.
such a lovely script honestly. i wish doctors scripted valium here more often. by far my favorite benzo
 
This is my issue, I have all that already, my business generates over a million a year in revenue and I’m a semi professional athlete who has a wife and 8 year old son, and in the dark I have this fucking pill addiction that I need to fucking kick for the sake of my family and my future. But I have so much responsibility weighing on my shoulders day to day that going through a lengthy withdrawal process just isn’t feesable. God I wish I was 21 and single again I’d literally just ride it out.
I’m around 12 years clean off long term crack heroin and methadone addiction.
Gone from broke and basically homeless to owning my own business and mortgage on my own place. It’s only a flat but it’s mine.

I was lost for so long and never thought I would be free from drugs and the lifestyle that comes with it.

It can be done and the strength to do it is in every addict, just got to want it bad enough.
 
This is my issue, I have all that already, my business generates over a million a year in revenue and I’m a semi professional athlete who has a wife and 8 year old son, and in the dark I have this fucking pill addiction that I need to fucking kick for the sake of my family and my future. But I have so much responsibility weighing on my shoulders day to day that going through a lengthy withdrawal process just isn’t feesable. God I wish I was 21 and single again I’d literally just ride it out.
Why don't you micro taper? May take a long time but at least it will be a smooth glide down at your own pace
 
This is my issue, I have all that already, my business generates over a million a year in revenue and I’m a semi professional athlete who has a wife and 8 year old son, and in the dark I have this fucking pill addiction that I need to fucking kick for the sake of my family and my future. But I have so much responsibility weighing on my shoulders day to day that going through a lengthy withdrawal process just isn’t feesable. God I wish I was 21 and single again I’d literally just ride it out.
If ur business doing over a mil then u got staff. Put things in place to few up some time and go do ur rip.

Can’t u Reduce down while u make plans to have some time off and get it done?
 
If ur business doing over a mil then u got staff. Put things in place to few up some time and go do ur rip.

Can’t u Reduce down while u make plans to have some time off and get it done?
I can but I’m one of these micro manager bosses who has trouble switching off and leaving the staff to do everything. My other problem is that I can’t micro taper it because I don’t have a script for it anymore(I’m going to try get back on the program) and the doctors over here think it’s ok to jump people off Suboxone at 1mg. That’s the lowest dose they jump people off. Can you believe that? Absolutely fucking horrific. When you combine that with having to take the Suboxone at the pharmacy it makes it difficult to micro taper on your own
 
it’s now been 12 hours since my last sub dose. I know the withdrawals are on their way. Unsure what I’m going to do to stave them off, not going to be able to get any subs today.

I have lots of codeine and lots of benzos
 
Which of the two you have relieves suboxone wd? and which of the two is easier to taper off for you?
 
it’s now been 12 hours since my last sub dose. I know the withdrawals are on their way. Unsure what I’m going to do to stave them off, not going to be able to get any subs today.

I have lots of codeine and lots of benzos
the benzos will probably help the most, id save the codeine for if it gets rough. a xanax and a puff of weed always made withdrawals more manageable for me, granted i don’t smoke anymore now, lol.
 
it’s now been 12 hours since my last sub dose. I know the withdrawals are on their way. Unsure what I’m going to do to stave them off, not going to be able to get any subs today.

I have lots of codeine and lots of benzos
and from the amount of benzos that you have, i personally wouldn’t be worried about withdrawal at all, just because they’re that much more effective for treating the anxiety & restlessness that comes with withdrawal and those were always my worst symptoms
 
and from the amount of benzos that you have, i personally wouldn’t be worried about withdrawal at all, just because they’re that much more effective for treating the anxiety & restlessness that comes with withdrawal and those were always my worst symptoms
true, how long after my last dose of sub is it safe to start taking benzo though? Without risk of high respiratory depression
 
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