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Slayer0344 said:
No no I’m here. I haven’t taken the subs yet, considering just trying to kick it all together. I’m too scared of the perscipared withdrawal. How long after using morphine could I just start slamming benzos to get off completely?

My issue is I’ve been on such a low dose of bupe that the morphine and oxy would take over my receptors?

Not worth the risk in my opinion
the morphine I slammed this morning felt like it did something but not a lot. Which would mean the morphine is now occupying my receptors? Taking bupe now could send me into pcw?
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Slamming benzo tablets is really not a good idea. You don't know what the binder is. Also the oral bioavailability with benzos is so high it makes IV pointless.

I think taking bupe now may not be a good idea. But I don't know alot about it. Perhaps @Psychlone Jack or @AlsoTapered may be able to answer this one better.

I imagine if you wanted to use the benzos you could after the morphine begins to wear off. Probably 8 hours I'm guessing considering you have tolerance and the half life of M is around 4 hours the dose in your system should be gone by 8. Don't take this as gospel wait for someone more knowledgable to confirm.
 
So when I said slammed I didn’t mean IV. I meant swallowed.

I ended up taking 1mg sub and felt fine, no precipitated withdrawal at all. The trouble is that 1mg dose is all I had. Now I have no subs again and by 18 hours the withdrawal will start again.

I have codeine and benzos
 
Jnowhere said:
Oh good, paracetamol kills livers, they might be your best bet with benzos while you are awake because of breathing difficulties mixing the two but 30mgs isn't as bad as those ones in Canada with12mg codeine and paracetamol.
I read that withdraw is 7-10 days, at least it isn't methadone which takes weeks, try codeine and small amounts of benzos to try to counteract withdrawals but stop benzos if breathing problems arise. America's medical system is different but 7-10 days of benzos shouldn't be an issue if you try to use them moderately. Try codeine and benzos in moderation while wide awake to see reaction it might help. I get the impression that seeing a doctor can take a while in New 🇳🇿 but America has different issues. Clonidine is a heart med used off label to help, my doctor gives them to me, non controlled
I can only say that if you can use codeine and benzos till withdraws pass, then taper codeine down you might be able to be done with opiates. Lucemyrais a drug used for withdrawals(lofexidine hydrochloride) not sure of availability in New Zealand, but if you can make it 7-10 days on codeine and benzos and try some gabapentin it can reduce sy.ptoms but all three are addictive but 7-10 days is not a hugh issue, try the temezipam(mis) also it is a longer lasting benzo and less likely to cause problems but Ativan will take some symptoms away. Hopefully the codeine will take care of some or more of opiate issues but take in moderation cause mixing the two is not that great, I did it with oxycodone. Morphine and Ativan but at therapeutic levels, not a problem.
You may have to taper codeine down, if they work you may be done with opiates.
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I’m trying to secure something stronger maybe some oxy or something but we will see
 
Been trying to figure out how to help this dude, not go into precipitated withdrawals
 
elgoucho9 said:
Slamming benzo tablets is really not a good idea. You don't know what the binder is. Also the oral bioavailability with benzos is so high it makes IV pointless.

I think taking bupe now may not be a good idea. But I don't know alot about it. Perhaps @Psychlone Jack or @AlsoTapered may be able to answer this one better.

I imagine if you wanted to use the benzos you could after the morphine begins to wear off. Probably 8 hours I'm guessing considering you have tolerance and the half life of M is around 4 hours the dose in your system should be gone by 8. Don't take this as gospel wait for someone more knowledgable to confirm.
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Hey what's up, I am trying to figure out what to do, so he can avoid precipitated withdrawals
 
Slayer, you still there, it is -14 degrees Celsius or-15 here. I had to convert it, it is summer there isn't it.
 
Jnowhere said:
Been trying to figure out how to help this dude, not go into precipitated withdrawals
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I'd suggest he needs something stronger than codeine and the benzos won't do much but maybe will help with the anxiety a bit.

I'm not too clued up on how bupe even works really.
 
elgoucho9 said:
I'd suggest he needs something stronger than codeine and the benzos won't do much but maybe will help with the anxiety a bit.

I'm not too clued up on how bupe even works really.
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Me too be chating all evening and until now. At least he didn't complain about US Healthcare, so many poor people don't use Medicaid. How are you gonna make people going through opiod withdrawals wait weeks. I hope this dude figures something out. It was Friday not much help, and I get into trouble, man I am willing to spend all night waiting for some replies but no.
They should take a point or three off my bad behavior rating or whatever. I hope Ds won that title of banned, like Electrum 1 did, Ds is a great guy. Gotta try my snowblower
I hate winter but I got my car outta the grive way, no snow blower.
 
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Yeah the healthcare system there sounds quite broken since the whole opiod crisis and Law Enforcement going after all the doctors who were prescribing. Now no dooctors want to prescribe any painkillers because they are scared of what the consequences might be.

Here in the UK it's fairly easy to get a prescription for cocodamols, dihydracodienes or if you are in really severe pain in hospital (broken bones etc) they might give morphine. I was in so much pain in hospital last April with a broken wrist, and the morphine still wasn't cutting it. The nurses were discussing giving me the hospital grade diamorphine (pharmacutrical heroin), I was almost gutted they didn't give me it. Could have been another one to tick off the bucket list so to speak. 😂

Anyway I digress, my point was it is much easier to get prescribed painkillers these days in the UK than it is in the US. A stark contrast to the situation 10 years ago I'm sure you'll agree.
 
Slayer0344 said:
I’m trying to secure something stronger maybe some oxy or something but we will see
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well maybe while you’re well for awhile, maybe there’s a plan of action you can possibly take? when are you able to get your suboxone again?
 
I’m around 12 years clean off long term crack heroin and methadone addiction.
Gone from broke and basically homeless to owning my own business and mortgage on my own place. It’s only a flat but it’s mine.

I was lost for so long and never thought I would be free from drugs and the lifestyle that comes with it.

It can be done and the strength to do it is in every addict, just got to want it bad enough.
 
Soso78 said:
I’m around 12 years clean off long term crack heroin and methadone addiction.
Gone from broke and basically homeless to owning my own business and mortgage on my own place. It’s only a flat but it’s mine.

I was lost for so long and never thought I would be free from drugs and the lifestyle that comes with it.

It can be done and the strength to do it is in every addict, just got to want it bad enough.
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mad proud of u broski
 
tokayeahok said:
well maybe while you’re well for awhile, maybe there’s a plan of action you can possibly take? when are you able to get your suboxone again?
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I chat with him all night it is an issue in New Zealand, has to wait a few weeks, but has to find some else where.
 
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