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finished up a tune tonight & uploaded it to streaming services - it’ll be live february 18th! :)

i had a great day today. my friend came by and we wrote some music together, which was really fun. only for an hour and a half or so but it was fun :)
 
Pharma
I totally went in wrong direction because of me being half a sleep and my meds not working yet. Sorry PHARMATRAIN, one thing I have noticed is that the Valium is longer acting and milder, my doctor who is quite knowledgeable about these things switched me to Valium no problem, no adverse reactions and they are milder but have a good muscle relaxing quality, I would say they are easier to get off, of than most other benzos and As a long time User of Ativan(lorazepam) they are different but do not imprair me when driving at all. They are comforting in a way. They should be much easier like I . Bmention to stop using because of long half life. I do find it odd that they wouldn't switch you , I am on 10mg x3 times a day but could lower it but I am going to die from cirrhosis of the liver if something else doesn't get me first. But yeah the muscle relaxing qualities help me, I am in my later 40's and no impairment at all, just less back pain, I guess all people well over 40 have some pain, a lot of times back, but also My knees, but not in anyway that affects my ability to drive and I feel better on them than Ativan. The bupe thing is kind of scary because although I took morphine er basically 24/7 along with Oxycodone, tolerance builds, but so does withdraws if stopped. I feel as though with gabapentin( careful with this one ) the Valium switch and clonidine it was pretty easy to stop, just used half tablets leading to stopping( a week to two maybe) and with comfort meds off, no problem. A number of people I have chatted with have said how hard getting off bupes( my spelling is bad, so I gotta to use short slang) I was going to get off all meds, but I realized 2 things: 1 I am in pain, just not the way I was when on morphine 2) that although my tests are good and a transplant within a year or death, was wrong 8 years later still alive, when given 1 by other doctors that it (cirrhosis)will kill me. But I will die when ALMIGHTY God says I will die not a doctor. Besides driving to Detroit everyday for 6 months to piss into cup, to be put on the organ donor list wasn't worth it to me. Fuck it let me die, I thought.
The thing I have heard is that tapering the bupes is hard and that jumping off at a low dose is a bitch, but the Valium, gabapentin, and clonidine(off label use of non schedule heart med) might ease the withdrawals, also there is an anti nauseating, I forget the common name but had I not forgotten that would have helped a lot it is Ondansetron by it's technical name but has a common name and I have seen it up to 4mg but usually less, that help a lot because there is no issues as long as it not taken for a real long time everyday, several times a day for months or years, but that too would have helped a lot. I take only 40mg of oxycodone for pain but I get refill tomorrow and have a few extras because I try to keep a schedule( no pun) and don't mess with or ever abuse my meds, Benzos and Bupes( from the reading low respitory issues but wow they are addictive) You should keep trying the switch to Valium because of the less difficulty getting off, of and they are better, from what I have been told as a comfort med, if and when you try to get off of bupes( can't spell wholes name) but article sheds some light on them and the a addictive qualities of them. Best of luck and I hope you can get to where you want to be.

@Jnowhere

I'm going to find a doctor that will use the Ashton method for the klons. Since I take 4 mg a day the manual says I need to transition to Valium slowly lowering the klons and increasing the Valium. 1 mg of klon is equal to 20 mg of valium. Here is the chart for all tapering schedules and the link:

From there you can print out the letter for the doctor which I would bring with me to any appointment. This is because these doctors don't know the right way to detox with minimal symptoms and still function daily. This is just for the physical and mental part. There is the spiritual component which I believe is the most important. But a doctor cannot help with this. Only God through the Lord Jesus can and will if I do my part. I thank you for the info. I know the road to recovery is hard but it's a war that can be won. Don't give up ever. God can heal you if your willing. Keeping the healing is the battle. The enemy will come in and try to put doubt in the mind so you lose your blessing. I know about this personally. I almost didn't say this but it was on my heart. Keep the faith in the Gospel of Christ and pray. May you be blessed in the name of Jesus Christ.
 
good day you guys!

woke up, had my bath, meds, and coffee as always. took a few measurements as i’m applying to be a runway model for a designer down south, so hopefully that pans out.


it’s been raining like heck here all day
 
Pharma train I agree, I do however need what I am currently on and cannot reduce my intake of perscription drugs, Pain too much in so many areas. The Valium is mild and helpss balance out the Oxycodone I use for pain.
It also keeps my OCD and Insomnia at bay.
Gabapentin is possibly a mistake, but It helps my appetite and helps me potenti ate, the Oxycodone because of pain.
Not sure of how to handle anymore cuts my meds.
I hope and pray you get what needed done, contact me anytime
 
Good day. I am free from now until Monday 10am.

I am armed with 6g kratom but I can also get concentrates, tinctures, etc from rotterdam smartshops
1.5g ketamine

6 2mg xanax pills

I also have sticked to my skin 1 x 12ug/hr fenta patch matrix and have a supply of 1 x 25ug/hr and another 4 x 12ug/h
weed and edibles unlimited

And I could probably be able to get anything you can recommend to fight with the withdrawals.
My issues are the physical withdrawals, the agonising pain.

Please help me
How should I take what I have to counter the withdrawals? Any other recommendations? I am already at the 15th try to get clean and honestly I would have ended all if they weren't so many people counting on me and I can't let down.

I also have 0.5g or around that of heroin for urgency that I really don't want to touch

Please help me. I don't know how but I am willing to try anything.
 
Good day. I am free from now until Monday 10am.

I am armed with 6g kratom but I can also get concentrates, tinctures, etc from rotterdam smartshops
1.5g ketamine

6 2mg xanax pills

I also have sticked to my skin 1 x 12ug/hr fenta patch matrix and have a supply of 1 x 25ug/hr and another 4 x 12ug/h
weed and edibles unlimited

And I could probably be able to get anything you can recommend to fight with the withdrawals.
My issues are the physical withdrawals, the agonising pain.

Please help me
How should I take what I have to counter the withdrawals? Any other recommendations? I am already at the 15th try to get clean and honestly I would have ended all if they weren't so many people counting on me and I can't let down.

I also have 0.5g or around that of heroin for urgency that I really don't want to touch

Please help me. I don't know how but I am willing to try anything.
I'm not the right person to ask but I think a gradual taper down would be best. Stacking together different kinds of drugs like edibles and ketamine might help temporarily. I wouldn't consume it all over one weekend. If you really want to quit maybe look into a gradual taper. I doubt 3 days is enough time to get through withdrawals, especially while you're still taking the fent and have enough heroin to go around. Maybe someone else has some insight about this?
 
I'm not the right person to ask but I think a gradual taper down would be best. Stacking together different kinds of drugs like edibles and ketamine might help temporarily. I wouldn't consume it all over one weekend. If you really want to quit maybe look into a gradual taper. I doubt 3 days is enough time to get through withdrawals, especially while you're still taking the fent and have enough heroin to go around. Maybe someone else has some insight about this?
Yea I was just about to write something very similar. I have experience with both benzos & opiates … the only opiate I never had experience with is the fent patches & not enough experience with ketamine to give specific advice.

How you doing @bunny22 ? How’s everything going at the moment? We’re here to support you. If you have any specific questions I can try to help. I hope you’re doing okay as possible as I’m writing this 💜
 
Good day. I am free from now until Monday 10am.

I am armed with 6g kratom but I can also get concentrates, tinctures, etc from rotterdam smartshops
1.5g ketamine

6 2mg xanax pills

I also have sticked to my skin 1 x 12ug/hr fenta patch matrix and have a supply of 1 x 25ug/hr and another 4 x 12ug/h
weed and edibles unlimited

And I could probably be able to get anything you can recommend to fight with the withdrawals.
My issues are the physical withdrawals, the agonising pain.

Please help me
How should I take what I have to counter the withdrawals? Any other recommendations? I am already at the 15th try to get clean and honestly I would have ended all if they weren't so many people counting on me and I can't let down.

I also have 0.5g or around that of heroin for urgency that I really don't want to touch

Please help me. I don't know how but I am willing to try anything.
Bro, you posted this identical post two weeks ago. You got some good advice and support then.

What's up?
 
good evening guys! got strep throat so having to have a telemedicine appointment for my strep & then going to pick up ciggies and my prescription. let’s hope these antibiotics don’t give me c diff again lmao
 
Strange clarity right now.

I don't know what it is about tonight... but this is the first time it really feels like it's set & crystallized hard, I'm done, that's it, I'm not going back to opiates... I know I've been telling myself and others that I'm done... to be honest though... I've still had that feeling in the back of my mind that I could fuck it all up... not now for some reason.

I'll keep my head on a swivel though.


Bunny, I hope you take the ride, it's horrible and terrifying at first but most things worth learning are (maybe not quite to the same intensity) but you know in your heart that you can't keep this up, no-one can.

If you can manage it, taper down slowly, I found that I couldn't but it's definitely a good thing if you can.
If you can't I would recommend just white knuckling with nothing but water & electrolytes, a big bucket & food/vitamins/sleep aids when you can but everyone's different.
I think one positive thing about cold, hard turkey is that if you happen to relapse, you know what punishment you are in for down the line and have plenty of time to think "you moron, you did this, don't do it again"

I am already at the 15th try to get clean and honestly I would have ended all if they weren't so many people counting on me and I can't let down.

*edit* I missed this, have you tried to get into any programs, I've always heard the Netherlands are very forward thinking with addictions & health care but I'm in Australia and could be miss-informed, to me 15 times says it's time you need a lifeline, I know you say you have people counting on you but you can't be much help if you go under yourself, you need to be able to breathe to stop people drowning... think about it... what would you say to someone you loved or cared for if you knew they were going through that...
 
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Wow...you guys are amazing. My girlfriend too. She s really supportive and has dealt with this shit from the statt(....even finding brown from homeless people for me...)

I have tried calling my gp to recommend me a suboxone or methadone clinic....but he sens me somewhere else to do like hard detox(even from wee). Not to say the 4 weeks waiting list.


I fucked up again....but if it counts...I smoked like 0.03g instead of the usual 0.1-0.15g per smoke( and around 1-2g every

Now I am 8 hours and 48 minutes from my last smoke. I feel like shit. I took 1mg xanax and smoked some weed. I would like to go back to sleep. It s like 8:37 am here and even though I took xanax before sleep, I still sleep like shit)

Tomorrow I won't have to go to work all morning thou. Maybe I can save some xanax and take idk 0.5-1mg when going to work if I still feel like shit?
 
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