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it's certainly a lot easier to blame some anonymous conspiracy because then you don't have to come up with, you know, evidence to substantiate your claims :)

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alasdairm said:
it's certainly a lot easier to blame some anonymous conspiracy because then you don't have to come up with, you know, evidence to substantiate your claims :)

alasdair
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Aaaaand that's the problem. They've been so successful using this crap against regular people, it's shocking just how much it fails as soon as it goes to court where the judge can throw you in jail for contempt and you have to provide actual particularized evidence. Vague theories about fraud hinging on random pieces of incompetence in the election along with innuendo and fake news doesn't get you anywhere.

I wish we could run ceps like that. If I could throw anyone I want on ceps in jail, I promise you it'd be run better! :D

Yo lovebandit, you don't mind if I throw some people I don't like in bluelight jail right? Actually this'll be easier if you just put me in charge of everything with absolute power but no requirement to do any work. :D
 
JessFR said:
Aaaaand that's the problem. They've been so successful using this crap against regular people, it's shocking just how much it fails as soon as it goes to court where the judge can throw you in jail for contempt and you have to provide actual particularized evidence. Vague theories about fraud hinging on random pieces of incompetence in the election along with innuendo and fake news doesn't get you anywhere.

I wish we could run ceps like that. If I could throw anyone I want on ceps in jail, I promise you it'd be run better! :D

Yo lovebandit, you don't mind if I throw some people I don't like in bluelight jail right? Actually this'll be easier if you just put me in charge of everything with absolute power but no requirement to do any work. :D
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Heh, years of brouhaha in the election before this one with impeachment proceedings and whatnot, get to this election and he has a similar dummy spit.

Hes a sore loser, an idiot, what a shock he's being a twit.

Lol

These days, no one would really expect a president or any power of the day to be the kind of person that actually deserves their job.



These people separated themselves from the populace and havent had to be accountable for their decisions , if they fuck up then its covered up or excused, must be really difficult at times to make up the bullshit.

At least now no one has to waste their time making feeble excuses for him, itll probably take a while before hating on him becomes a "whataboutism".

*shrug*
 
I've always found it funny that... You can't go be a doctor without an education, you can't go be an electrician without knowing what you're talking about. You can't just go be a lawyer without spending years learning the law.

And you can't go become a general without spending years learning how to become a military officer.

But you can become president, be in charge of a country, and have full access to all of the nation's top secret intelligence, with absolutely no training or education whatsoever.

I'm not proposing an alternative system, but.. It's hard to look at it and not feel like it's crazy.

If you have a drug habit, you'll have a very difficult time getting a security clearance, ruling out lots of jobs. But you can become president with a drug habit and get full clearance to see everything regardless of if you need to know.
 
JessFR said:
Wtf are you talking about.
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From what I saw, most of the typos were grammatical which is actually pretty typical in legal documents. They were a couple of spelling typos, but who cares? It has no bearing on the case. Seems kind of petty to me for people to be going on and on about a couple of typos.
 
JessFR said:
I've always found it funny that... You can't go be a doctor without an education, you can't go be an electrician without knowing what you're talking about. You can't just go be a lawyer without spending years learning the law.

And you can't go become a general without spending years learning how to become a military officer.

But you can become president, be in charge of a country, and have full access to all of the nation's top secret intelligence, with absolutely no training or education whatsoever.
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You don't need any training to be a father either.

 
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All this lawyer talk about these crack lawyers that walked away. Let me tell you that if they believed for one minute that these lawsuits had enough legs to overturn this election they'd be there fighting tooth and nail. All they've done is err on the side of caution and made a judgment call (pun intended) which had nothing to do with the legal matters at hand. If they went hell for leather for Trump and still didn't manage to overturn the elections: given his popularity with the masses (sarcasm) they'd probably be hard pressed to find new clients is all.

Don't worry @AutoTripper. I got the same problem when it comes to spelling. I try hard to ensure that I don't make mistakes but find myself having to look up words on Google before posting and words that I'm damn sure I used to be able to spell correctly. As for this American vs. British spelling: I spent most of my life ensuring that whatever I typed was as close to The Queen's English as possible. But software has become so Americanized over the years that I've just given up bothering.

By the way: been meaning to comment on your Lyme Disease for some time now. From what I gather it's one hell of a thing to have and live with. Watched a documentary or two on it some time ago. One was about a model (and not too shabby looking either) who got bit by an infected tick while on an outside photo shoot. Took ages for her to be diagnosed. And by the time she was diagnosed she was pretty fucked and career over. Just getting off of the couch to do do something arbitrary was a mission in and of itself. Not something that's really ever talked about i.e. isn't as "popular" (for want of a better word) as cancer (for example). Probably also one of those unfortunate conditions or diseases that's not "popular" enough to make it worthwhile for big pharma. to throw big money at it. Anyway. Just thought I'd mention that it's noted for the record. Sorry my man.
 
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Don't worry @AutoTripper. I got the same problem when it comes to spelling. I try hard to ensure that I don't make mistakes but find myself having to look up words on Google before posting and words that I'm damn sure I used to be able to spell correctly. As for this American vs. British spelling: I spent most of my life ensuring that whatever I typed was as close to The Queen's English as possible. But software has become so Americanized over the years that I've just given up bothering.
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Haha, and hello again! Thanks for saying that it made me laugh because so much mirrors my own experience!

But I'm really not self doubting (lost the right word after nice kava session tonight, weed vaporizer and edibles, plus 12 mg Etizolam)....I just speak openly about all things.

I try to be as transparrent as possible always. Still, I try hard to show respect for you all good members here. Just my old optic nerve injury makes it such a painstaking task to check and clock all errors.

But I feel satisfied that my basic meaning always gets across and that's what matters most of all to me.

But @dalpat077 thank you for those words of support, AND your good humour!

Keep bringing it. We all need that now.


Edit- haha, just corrected a dozen letter typos!
 
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AutoTripper said:
Haha, and hello again! Thanks for saying that.it made me laugh because so much mirrors my own experience!

But I'm really not self doubting (lost the right word after nice kava session tonight, weed vaporizerr and edibles, plus 12 mg Egizolam)....I just speak openly about all things.

I try to ne as transparrent as possible always. Still, I try hard to show respect for you all good memberd here. Just my old optic nerve injury makes it such a painstaking task to check and clock all arrors.

But I feel satisfied that my basic meaning always gets across and that's what matters most of all to me.

But @dalpat077 thank you for those words of support, AND your good humour!

Keep bringing it. We all need that now.
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Thanks! :)

All jokes aside (and I know I tend to get OCD about different things now and then): the correct and incorrect use of the apostrophe is something that's driven me nuts over the years! Turns out it wasn't just me at the time i.e. there used to be an "Apostrophe Society Forum" (they've now done away with the forum because too many politically correct pricks were laying into them labeling them as elitist) so now only the main website remains. And of course: the correct ways and manner to make reference to The Queen (but that's another whole story and also one which not too many give a fuck about or couldn't be bothered with anymore so I'll leave it at that).
 
dalpat077 said:
Ain't that a fact. Arguably one of the most important and difficult jobs in the world and there's no fucking manual! :ROFLMAO:
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The manual comes from within. I'm essentially, spiritual and a strong believer in the higher self. I have done genuinely extraordinary ESP things in my life, and I believe that we are capable of knowing virtually anything if we could truly tap into our higher self and infinite awareness.

Like animals, gorillas etc, just know how to parent automatically. They don't think about it.

Obviously, it is the crazy world children are brought into, rather than the should be harmonious one, which makes parenting the real tough challenge it ca be.
 
“It’s been an amazing four years. We are trying to do another four years. Otherwise, I’ll see you in four years,” Donald Trump.

AutoTripper said:
Obviously, it is the crazy world children are brought into, rather than the should be harmonious one, which makes parenting the real tough challenge it ca be.
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Even if the world wasn't crazy, it's still one of the hardest things in life.
People who haven't had kids have no idea how difficult it is.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
“It’s been an amazing four years. We are trying to do another four years. Otherwise, I’ll see you in four years,” Donald Trump.



Even if the world wasn't crazy, it's still one of the hardest things in life.
People who haven't had kids have no idea how difficult it is.
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Absolutely. I respect parents! My Lyme made it impossible for me to have childten myself. I mean, I could, physically, but any sort of romance or even basic active friendship has been impossible for 15 years.

But the world could be remarkably better in all regards. Raising children to adults is one serious project and commitment. But the chaotic world we live in makes that infinitely harder.
 
Trump attended a rally in Georgia for the January vote for two Senate seats. He kept talking about voter fraud, which Republicans worry will depress voter turnout for their candidates.

Trump keeps up baseless fraud claims at rally for U.S. senators in Georgia​

U.S. President Donald Trump campaigned in Georgia on Saturday for two Republican senators at a rally that some in his party feared could end up hurting, not helping, their chances by focusing on his efforts to reverse his own election defeat.

In his first rally appearance since he lost to Democrat Joe Biden in the Nov. 3 presidential contest, the Republican Trump reminded the chanting crowd that he came to southern Georgia to persuade them to vote Republican in runoffs on Jan. 5.

But he quickly turned to his repeated claims, made without evidence, of widespread fraud in the presidential election.

“They cheated and rigged our presidential election but we’ll still win it. And they are going to try to rig this election too,” Trump told the crowd in Valdosta, who chanted “We love you!” and “Four More Years!”

He repeated his attacks on Republicans who have refused to back him, including Georgia’s governor, Brian Kemp. Earlier on Saturday, Trump phoned Kemp and pressured the governor on Twitter to take further steps to help him overturn the election results.

The outgoing president’s claims of widespread voter fraud have been rejected by state and federal officials across the country, and his campaign’s numerous legal challenges have almost all failed.

Biden was the first Democratic presidential candidate to win in Georgia since 1992. Statewide recounts, including a painstaking review by hand of some 5 million ballots, turned up no significant irregularities.

The January runoffs pit two Republican senators, David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, against well-funded Democratic challengers Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock, seeking to capture a state that has not elected a Democratic senator in 20 years.

The races will determine which party controls the U.S. Senate. Democrats, who already have the majority in the House of Representatives, need to win both seats to control the Senate. If Republicans win one seat, they will retain their majority and be able to block much of Biden’s legislative agenda.

Biden said he would visit Georgia to campaign for the Democratic candidates but did not give a timetable for his trip.

ATTACKING REPUBLICANS​

Governor Kemp did not attend the rally due to the death in a car crash of Harrison Deal, a close family friend of the governor and staffer for Loeffler. He had an active exchange with Trump on Twitter earlier in the day, however.

“I will easily & quickly win Georgia if Governor @BrianKempGA or the Secretary of State permit a simple signature verification ... Why are these two ‘Republicans’ saying no?” Trump wrote on Twitter.

After Kemp responded that he had “publicly called for a signature audit three times,” Trump said that wasn’t good enough, and added in a second tweet that Kemp should immediately call a special session of the state legislature.

“Your people are refusing to do what you ask. What are they hiding?” Trump said.

In a move unprecedented in modern U.S. history, the Trump team has tried, without success, to get Republican-controlled legislatures in battleground states won by Biden to set aside the results and declare Trump the winner.

Biden won the election with 306 Electoral College votes - more than the 270 required - to Trump’s 232. The Electoral College will meet on Dec. 14 to formalize the outcome.

Trump told the Saturday rally his challenge was headed to the U.S. Supreme Court “very shortly,” without elaborating. Legal experts do not see a path to the nation’s highest court, however.

Richard Hasen of the UC Irvine School of Law said it was unclear what case Trump was referring to, but added: “I don’t think any of these efforts stand any chance of success.”

Trump’s penchant for making his political rallies all about him - and now, about his claims the U.S. electoral system is rigged - had raised concerns among some Republicans that his appearance in Georgia could end up turning voters off or making them feel there is no point in voting.

Before the rally, Matt Towery, a former Georgia Republican legislator who is now a political analyst and pollster, said Trump could help if he praised the candidates, but warned:

“If he talks about them for 10 minutes and spends the rest of the time telling everyone how terrible Brian Kemp is, then it will only exacerbate things.”

When Loeffler and Perdue briefly took the stage and were handed the microphone by Trump, many in the crowd drowned out their words with chants of “Fight for Trump!”

Two pro-Trump lawyers, L. Lin Wood and Sidney Powell, have argued that Georgians should not vote in the runoff until issues from the 2020 election are resolved in the state, even after lawsuits they have filed to overturn the results have failed.

Trump said on Saturday that voters could and should refuse to accept what he called the “rigged” presidential election results while also casting ballots for Perdue and Loeffler in the runoffs.

“If you don’t vote, the socialists and the communists win,” he said. “We can fight for the presidency and fight to elect our two great senators, and we can do it at the same time.”
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Trump keeps up false claims of widespread fraud at Georgia rally for U.S. senators

U.S. President Donald Trump campaigned in Georgia on Saturday for two Republican senators at a rally that some in his party feared could end up hurting, not helping, their chances by focusing on his efforts to reverse his own election defeat.
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we can hope...
 
cduggles said:
which Republicans worry will depress voter turnout for their candidates.
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I don't think he cares.

On another note, I find it seriously disturbing that it brings some of you pleasure when people like Rudy Giuliani and Trump's family / administration contract a potentially deadly virus.

It's a little sick, honestly.
Where is your humanity?
 
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