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The 2019 Trump Presidency Thread

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All right folks, Rorschach test time:
The cartograms of the US counties look like a Bactrian camel with its mouth open after one takes 35 hits of acid
 
...he's more popular than ever (higher approval rating than Obama at this same point, from aggregate polling)...

i don't think that is accurate. we're 985 days into president trump's term. his approval is at 41.5% (source: fivethirtyeight.com which aggregates almost all available polls)

985 days into obama's presidency (october 2nd 2011) he was at 43%.

worth noting that 43% for obama was low. on the day obama was elected his approval was ~63%. obviously, that's election high and it dropped off. but he still saw approval of between 52% and 69% depending on who you read.

trump's approval on the day he was elected was 45.5% - he has never had an approval rating of more than 50%! i guess all those those millions more people who were at his biggest-inauguration-ever were not polled :)

funny how, for trump and supporters, polls are all fake news until they see one they like :)

alasdair
 
Maybe instead of trying to and failing at ruining the ACA the Republicans could have investigated Biden

Too bad. IT IS OLD NEWS. GROW UP JG. Get with the times.

Don’t be a Kamala by taking me back to motherfucking bussing PLEASE!!!

JG and the Republican “Biden’s son in Ukraine” shit is so pathetic.
 
i don't think that is accurate. we're 985 days into president trump's term. his approval is at 41.5% (source: fivethirtyeight.com which aggregates almost all available polls)

985 days into obama's presidency (october 2nd 2011) he was at 43%.

worth noting that 43% for obama was low. on the day obama was elected his approval was ~63%. obviously, that's election high and it dropped off. but he still saw approval of between 52% and 69% depending on who you read.

trump's approval on the day he was elected was 45.5% - he has never had an approval rating of more than 50%! i guess all those those millions more people who were at his biggest-inauguration-ever were not polled :)

funny how, for trump and supporters, polls are all fake news until they see one they like :)

alasdair


I don’t care too much for money,
Money can’t buy me love ?

Trump is going to drown the airwaves with his annoying voice, limited vocabulary, and oddly block-shaped head in ad buys. He will show us the meaning of the word “saturated”.

Or he’ll squander his money fighting impeachment.

Either way...
 
i don't think that is accurate. we're 985 days into president trump's term. his approval is at 41.5% (source: fivethirtyeight.com which aggregates almost all available polls)

DONALD TRUMP'S APPROVAL RATING SURPASSES OBAMA'S, NOT JUST ON RASMUSSEN REPORTS

Liberal source of news so you can't cry bias said:
Pesident Donald Trump's job approval rating this week averaged across major polls surpassed that of his predecessor President Barack Obama at the same time eight years ago, giving some actual good news to Trump who is known to cite only conservative-leaning polls to bolster his image.

Trump's approval rating on Wednesday was 44.3 percent, according to a Real Clear Politics average of more than a half-dozen major polls. That is higher than Obama's average approval rating of 43.9 percent on September 18, 2011, by the same measure.

The 45th president's average approval rating surpassed that of his predecessor on Monday and stayed on top for the next two days. Trump's average approval rating on Monday was 44.1 percent compared to Obama's 43.9 percent on September 16, 2011, and 44 percent on Tuesday compared to Obama's 43.8 percent on September 17, 2011.

And that's remarkable considering the difference in media bias when it came to reporting on Obama vs Trump, wouldn't you agree?
 
depends on who you choose to believe. like those you criticize, you choose to believe the polls which support your position.

rcp aggregated fewer than 10 polls. 538 aggregates many more.

but, still, it's telling that a high of only 44% is cause for celebration for trump and his supporters...

alasdair
 
Better than Obama, and they promised that Trump was going to be a disaster.

If the media was fair and balanced it's safe to say that his rating would be higher.
 
the only thing trump has going for himself he didn't invade another country so far. He was to much a idiot to cause to much harm to america and the rest world but hes deranged and that could change fast.

Insider knowledge from his days of celebrity apprentice claims he doesn't even listen to or find music enjoyable. He also totally disgreads two of his kids like they aint even his.

They should ban also his family from running in future elections they are corrupt racist and tools for the saudis and Israelis businessmen who love the idiot and causing more divide and uproar through the middle east.
 
did anybody see the trump press conference today (with the president of finland)?

he has lost his mind.

Yeah a casual watch of that really makes it hard to convince yourself he's fit for the office. A narcissist will always choose himself over everything else. He makes both important and flippant decisions based on maximizing his communication of his own greatness. I mean I've watched through a number of Trump appearances and interviews. The dude is pathological. I've known other people like that (one was among my best friends, my friend-sister, part of my daily life) and they're a fucking shit show, sketchy, very narrow focus. All this presidency is to him is to prove his greatness. That is literally all he is trying to do. He doesn't give a fuck about this country or any of us. That, along with environmental and education policy decisions, are why I fully do not support the guy as president. He is not qualified for office. Forget all the news bullshit. All the news is bullshit now, it's just distraction noise. Thanks Trump, for bringing that to light. Watching him speak for a period of time, you can tell what he is, I sure as fuck can. I know that when I see it. I do not want that kind of person running this country. He could do anything, you don't know, because his ultimate goal is not the same goal of the president of the united states... I like my president to make his top priority the successful running of our country, achieving the best result. Other countries see it too, this narcissism... our allies, our enemies. That hurts our country's position and regard in the world, and that's fucking important. He is a fucking disaster, other than he's brought a lot of stuff to light and that's good (I think it was an unintended boon for us, but for him it was attempts to shift blame and create an enemy and sympathy for him, classic narcissistic tendencies of behavior.

My ideal way forward, if I had a genie (ideally Robin Williams - I like to imagine he is the genie now) and could make a wish or something, would be for him to serve out his 1 term without impeachment, get beaten by one of the others, not sure who I prefer yet but there are a few I think would probably be good (I will make a decision, I promise, bu I'm so god damn busy lately), and then we all move forward with a real leader who is trying to be there for us and not just having what is basically smoked freebase reality TV... regular reality TV wasn't enough for him anymore, so he had to do this shit, and it's the ultimate high of his life, having this much attention, and all the superfans? He's getting off on this shit, he's basically strung out on methattention right now and it's so much of what he's thinking about, is keeping it going. And we remember the things he revealed, such as the problems with the media, the destructive tribalism that has essentially halted the functioning of our government, the fact that we are not invincible on the world stage. The way other countries see us. The role we play in the world, good and bad. If we could move forward with a sober knowledge of that, as a civilization, with a sensible leader to help shift the political climate, we could get back on track. But Trump has got to go. He's like fucking Ghaddafi in a way, except tremendously less control. But don't forget, it's also dropping hints about a third term. Yep, I'm sure that was a simple, accidental, random slip of the tongue. Come on. Dude I like you, I think you're a good dude, I really enjoy hearing what you have to say, I read every last word you type. About everything you've made me think/re-think and about some things I have learned a lot and accepted something (Like Hilary being a ridiculous crook). But on this matter I just waned to try to fucking lay it out in the best way I could, what I see here. Everything else, every single thing else is not irrelevant, but it doesn't matter. The situation we are in now is sketchy and dangerous ad that dude should not be at the help. We fucked up. It was a rock and a hard place because of Hillary, but at least she would have kept it moving. Right now we're facing a serious economic depression, largely because of the trade war and more or less, ostly because of Trump directly. Everybody else sees him as either an embarrassment or a pawn or both. This shit is fucked man, for real. I'm trying to make it as much like we're standing in a room face to face and talking about this. I respect you. I think certain people treat you poorly and I usually find myself supporting your posting over that because although I generally disagree, you post the way one should. I am saying that to let you know that I respect you, but I truly want to know how you deal with what I just laid out in this Yuuuuuge size paragraph. I would love it if you could articulate that. And I thank you in advance. :)

I guess am a little confused because you sometimes seem to be that same Trump supporter but you've said that you've withdrawn support. Can you explain to me how you can listen to some of the stuff he says, and nor realize what a fucking head case he is? Fuck all the media, I'm talking about watching a speech, especially as time goes on. Also the tweets which some of are just totally cringe, just awful. And like the thing with him saying the hurricane was going to hit Alabama, and then the weather service corrected him, and then he made a big deal about how actually based on previous models he was right? Like, okay, even if if was true, why the fuck did that line of thought prioritize so hard in your brain that you basically said "fuck this interview, I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks, I need everyone to know how I'm not wrong!" How do you defend that? Because if that's the bar for qualified president, personality-wise, then we're pretty lost somewhere weird. So yeah I'm talking about his personality, but I think that's valid. Someone's personality is who they are... it's almost every single thing about a person that matters at all or has relevance to every aspect of dealing with them.
 
And I'm not hating on the US. What i said above is true. I remember thinking it was awesome when Australia (my country) and America developed the first successful Hyposonic Missile earlier this year.

Shortly afterwards Russia revealed not only had it already perfected hyposonic missiles but also fitted nuclear warheads to them, as well as fitting them to some SU57's and others ??

 
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