It is simply not a fact that there are only either cosy relations with Russia or WAR. He has created that false dichotomy (one of the more manipulative
logical fallacies) so that anyone who doesn't support Trump and his bromance with Putin can be summarily dismissed as advocating war. I mean, why is he even mentioning it?
Bromance? What is this high school? We're describing serious international relations here among big boys. Even if you don't take Trump seriously everyone else does. Before in business now on the world stage. So let's just assume that's a thing:
So you don't want war.
But you also don't want cozy relations?
So you don't want them to be at war but you want them to be kinda fighting, mad at each other? You realize that will further the arms race and lead to more nuclear proliferation?
Should we stay on hair-trigger alert so that a miscalculation could set off events that ended the world?
Would you want them to be at peace? I mean the common sense answer to that question from anyone sane is
of course.
Tense relations can also easily kick off conflicts, so if you truly want peace then you also want de-escalation, friendly discourse and a relaxing of tensions.
Would you want them to make peace while Trump was President? You'd also have to say yes to that because peace with Russia is still desired even though it sucks that Trump may get credit.
"But... we can't make peace with Russia because we think that they interfered with the election." Really though?
The USA does that too, interfere with Russia's elections. So is that a reason to not make peace? "But Russia controls Trump" So you believe that Trump is a puppet of Russia, and what are the end goals? Does Putin want to buy more uranium? Kremlin got Trump elected and then what? Putin had it pretty sweet with the Clintons, paying them on the side for uranium. The only difference was Hillary was yelling for war with Russia while Trump was yelling for friendship. Can you think of any reason why Russia/Putin would prefer Trump???
Here's an interesting hypothetical: would you prefer Hillary as president and war with Russia, or Trump as president and peace with Russia? If you say Clinton then we can't be friends.
Trump even sold weapons to Ukraine!! This is actually one of his moves that I massively opposed. But is that bending over for Russia?
If you don't think Russians or the Russian government
altered the results of the election then this issue is not important enough to be bringing up at a summit.
I mean you can bring up the issue of
everyone committing cybercrime, but it is insane to suggest lambasting a nuclear superpower over it. And you can't be up there and say "we do it too" so we just mention it. Demanding Trump mention it is just you wanting Trump to fuck up and look bad, but in the process
hurt the relationship with the opposing nuclear superpower, not help it.
And if you honestly think that if it was Obama up there, that you'd suggest Obama to tell Putin off, then ask yourself why Obama said nothing when they found those Russians hacking crimes in 2016 and then later on he said that there was no way you could even rig a US election. That proves it wasn't that serious.
You cannot refuse to take it seriously then and only pretend to now because you lost.
Also really tired of the stock file reasons most people give me why Russia and their government is more morally inferior to our countries.
The people that I speak to who criticize Russia know nothing about Russia.
"Putin kill journalists KGB poison shoot down airliner invade Ukraine hate gays"
It's quite easy to tell who has bothered to do some research, or even someone who's interested in learning more about the truth instead of following the hate-trend.
Also I will say, that this whole debacle is making 4-5 million Russian-Americans very uncomfortable. They know that this is mostly agenda-driven, war-baiting nonsense but they've had to listen to it for years already and it may lead to stigmatizing an entire people.
Check this out, more evidence of irrational Russia agenda.
A video of Silicon Valley representatives testifying in front of the House.
They are flatly asked a simple question whether they know if other countries are also attacking us.
We all know the answer is YES but they refuse to answer. Yet they have pages and pages on Russia!
Bullshit. Lies. Bias. Agenda.
Tech giants squirm and dodge when grilled about China & N. Korea "election meddling" (VIDEO)
https://www.rt.com/usa/433646-tech-giants-dodge-us-house/