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^ I think it's a combination of now-ousted staff like Bannon and Gorka and current staff member Stephen Miller shaping a "nationalist" perspective and then add now Chief of Staff John Kelly, who is fixated on MS-13 from his time as head of the Southern Command (SOUTHCOM). Southcom includes Central America, South America and the Caribbean, but not Mexico.

So yes I blame John Kelly mostly, because he told Trump about them.
 
And what's funny is that the liberal media is so intent on damaging POTUS in any way possible that in their continued assertions of POTUS as being racist, in this case, they"ve aligned themselves with ms-13 in an empathetic way. What fucking morons! I wonder if this has crossed the minds of those powers that be in liberal media.
This is what I don't get. How insanely stupid could they be? They should just keep quiet sometimes.

Trump hates them because they?re not Americans, they speak Spanish and aren?t white. He is undoubtedly racially biased.
How about they're the most entrenched, extensive, notorious, violent, murderous gang and they're full of illegal immigrants, so we don't have to waste tax dollars dealing with their bullshit, incarcerating them and waiting for them to re-offend. We can just kick their asses out of the country. (This is a very good thing).
And btw dogs are animals and they get to sleep on the bed. Animals is far too generous a description.


I'm not expressing sympathy for a particular gang.
So yes I blame John Kelly mostly, because he told Trump about them.
Sorry what?
 
I remember when people who said Obama was wiretapping Trump were conspiracy theorists.
The Deep State got caught spying on Candidate Trump — Now they’re spinning this as a good thing and normal procedure.

Obama’s former DNI Chief James Clapper said Thursday evening on CNN, “It’s a good thing,” the Deep State FBI was spying on Trump’s campaign.
This was after Clapper initially denied the intelligence community was spying on Donald Trump.
 
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Trump Economy Sets More Records: 1st Quarter Profits, Earnings Reach All-Time Highs ? Largest Monthly Surplus in History ? Far Left Media Silent
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/05/trump-economy-sets-more-records-1st-quarter-profits-earnings-reach-all-time-highs-largest-monthly-surplus-in-history-far-left-media-silent/


The biggest lies from the Mainstream Media are not only what they tell us, the biggest lies are what they don?t tell us!

The liberal MSM is obsessed with the fake ?Trump-Russia Collusion? story and have been for nearly two years. They love everything about this sham story because it keeps the truth about President Trump from being told.

The President has many success stories under his belt already in less than a year and a half in office, but probably no story is as important and stunning as the Trump Economy. Under President Trump the economy is on fire and set for more record earnings and results.

Yesterday, on May 21, 2018, the Russell 2000 hit a new all-time high ?
The Russell 2000 index of small-capitalization stocks rose on Monday, advancing to its latest in a series of records as investors cheered an easing of U.S.-China trade tensions. While smaller companies are seen as having less exposure to trade issues, due to their higher concentration of U.S. revenue exposure, the market segment has rallied consistently for weeks, easily outperforming its larger-cap peers.

The Russell 2000 and other market indices have good reasons for reaching all-time highs. Corporate earnings have never been higher! The 1st Quarter results for the companies in the S&P 500 increased more than 25% over the same period in the prior year. S&P 500 Aggregate Estimates and Revisions are reported as follows ?


  • First quarter earnings are expected to increase 25.7% from Q1 2017. Excluding the energy sector, the earnings growth estimate declines to 23.7%.

  • Of the 409 companies in the S&P 500 that have reported earnings to date for Q1 2018, 79.2% have reported earnings above analyst expectations. This is above the long-term average of 64% and above the prior four quarter average of 72%

  • The Q1 2018 blended revenue growth estimate is 8.4%. Excluding the energy sector, the revenue growth estimate declines to 8.0%.

  • 75.9% of companies have reported Q1 2018 revenue above analyst expectations. This is above the long-term average of 60% and above the prior four quarter average of 69%.


These numbers are even understated. 500 of the largest US Companies? profits are 25% greater than prior year in the 1st Quarter. This is unheard of in US history! When, if ever, have the 500 largest companies in the US increased their ?bottom line? earnings by 25%. This is simply record breaking!

Even before the 2016 Presidential election, the MSM claimed that if Trump were to be elected President, the markets would collapse as a result of trade wars instigated by President Trump who was running on free trade but fair trade. This too turned out to be a farce.

According to reports today, the President has renegotiated trade deals with China that will result in a reduction of the trade deficit with China by $380 Billion. This is the largest annual trade deficit reduction in US history.

@charliekirk11 said:
Art of the deal: Trump just negotiated a $380 BILLION dollar reduction in our trade deficit with China Largest annual trade deficit reduction in US history
Because of President Trump, American optimism is at an all-time high ?
@cvpayne said:
Breaking News 67% of Americans believe now is a good time to find a quality job in US highest percentage in 17 years of Gallup. Optimism about availability of good jobs +25 percentage points since Trump was elected president. Forget about all the noise people are feeling better!
On top of all this, the CBO reported the largest monthly surplus in history in April ?
The Congressional Budget Office is reporting that the federal government took in $515 billion in April. With outlays of only $218 billion, the $190-billion surplus represents the largest in history.

Although the MSM will not tell you, we are currently enjoying arguably the best US economy and outlook in US history! Corporate profits are at all-time highs (by far) and the economic outlook keeps getting better and better every day!
 
sure, the stock market is looking great but people talk about this as if it's all that matters. there's an associated cost for every benefit. the cost of trump's booming economy will be felt, in large part, by the environment. coal companies can now dump waste into streams with impunity, we're going to start drilling in anwr, fuck paris, etc.

and the saddest thing of all is that this generation won't have to experience the full effects - but i guess future generations can look back from their once beautiful, fucked planet and console themselves with the fact that you had $75 more in your monthly paycheck and your 401k did gangbusters :(

alasdair
 
Indeed. Curious what you think about that, Grimez. Trump/his appointees are aggressively rolling back environmental protections. The guy he appointed as head of the EPA has a long history of suing the EPA to try to overturn protections. Clearly he has no concern for the environment at all. In this day and age, the last thing we need is less environmental protection. And all to make rich people even richer.
 
sure, the stock market is looking great but people talk about this as if it's all that matters. there's an associated cost for every benefit. the cost of trump's booming economy will be felt, in large part, by the environment. coal companies can now dump waste into streams with impunity, we're going to start drilling in anwr, fuck paris, etc.

and the saddest thing of all is that this generation won't have to experience the full effects - but i guess future generations can look back from their once beautiful, fucked planet and console themselves with the fact that you had $75 more in your monthly paycheck and your 401k did gangbusters :(

alasdair

For what it's worth, while that future generation won't likely recognize it, had they been born today they'd have experienced just as much denial about how bad were fucking up the environment. So in that sense they're still just as guilty :).

That's how i justify not caring anyway. I mean I do care, just not so much for that reason.
 
well, i guess my point is that many trumpers point to the stock market and use that as evidence that everything is rosy. when it's one thing.

alasdair
 
sure, the stock market is looking great but people talk about this as if it's all that matters. there's an associated cost for every benefit. the cost of trump's booming economy will be felt, in large part, by the environment. coal companies can now dump waste into streams with impunity, we're going to start drilling in anwr, fuck paris, etc.

and the saddest thing of all is that this generation won't have to experience the full effects - but i guess future generations can look back from their once beautiful, fucked planet and console themselves with the fact that you had $75 more in your monthly paycheck and your 401k did gangbusters :(

It's a fair point overall but not super relevant to this discussion. Trump did not create this system. It's a broke system that is arguably on the verge of collapse and we need all the help we can get. If corrupt poilticians and CEOs start getting arrested then we can truly start kissing Trump's ass. Oh and please stop saying that it's only just the "stock market". It's the ENTIRE ECONOMY.

Indeed. Curious what you think about that, Grimez. Trump/his appointees are aggressively rolling back environmental protections. The guy he appointed as head of the EPA has a long history of suing the EPA to try to overturn protections. Clearly he has no concern for the environment at all. In this day and age, the last thing we need is less environmental protection. And all to make rich people even richer.

I've been over this before, Trump is taking the EPA a step forward. Previously the science that the EPA used to formulate its policy decisions was SECRET.
Trump wants to change this so that there is transparency and the public can view the science for themselves. This is a GOOD thing.
 
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^ it's not a question of trying to spin a positive into a negative.

there are associated costs for every benefit and discussing one while ignoring the other is pretty silly, no?

alasdair
 
I for one would rather see a far worse economy in the short term and avert climate change than short term prosperity at the expense of both the human AND enormous economic costs of climate change down the road.

Of course if you're a climate change deniar who doesn't even accept it as a possibility this isn't gonna carry much weight.
 
i tend to agree. i also fear that we are getting pretty late in the day to tackle the problem meaningfully and trump's term is a disaster for the environment, which now takes a backseat to profit.

alasdair
 
sure, the stock market is looking great but people talk about this as if it's all that matters. there's an associated cost for every benefit. the cost of trump's booming economy will be felt, in large part, by the environment. coal companies can now dump waste into streams with impunity, we're going to start drilling in anwr, fuck paris, etc.

and the saddest thing of all is that this generation won't have to experience the full effects - but i guess future generations can look back from their once beautiful, fucked planet and console themselves with the fact that you had $75 more in your monthly paycheck and your 401k did gangbusters :(

alasdair

The stock market is shit

26 K to 24 K in 2 days

Utter rubbish. Everyone is here trying to make a quick buck.

Market slush funds are going to disappear with the circus when it leaves town in a few years.
 
there are associated costs for every benefit and discussing one while ignoring the other is pretty silly, no?

Whenever I eat chicken for dinner I do not think of the worms that had to die during the chicken's life to keep it alive. Yes there are associated costs with everything. Maybe be more specific of said costs instead of just mentioning that "there are costs". Sometimes benefits vastly outweigh them.

I for one would rather see a far worse economy in the short term and avert climate change than short term prosperity at the expense of both the human AND enormous economic costs of climate change down the road.
First of all there's no settled science and many educated people consider (rightly imo) anthropogenic global warming a hoax based on bullshit and politics.
Whatever your intractable opinion may be, there are many people infinitely more intelligent than you that disagree. Fact.
Secondly, how exactly would you suggest conducting this trade-off between shitty economy and averting climate change?
That's a very noble statement though :P
 
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Whatever your intractable opinion may be, there are many people infinitely more intelligent than you that disagree. Fact.

Are you for real? That's really not a very mature way of discussing the topic.

You really remind me of someone.
 
You really remind me of someone.
I hope it's someone that has a clue.

Are you for real? That's really not a very mature way of discussing the topic.
The person I was addressing does not engage in mature debate. I had to explain it in that way due to previous misleading comments I had received relating to climate change and allegedly settled science (science is never settled).
 
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