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On another note I noticed another member's family has started beekeeping. He doesn't like my writing because it's too long for him to read but I wrote a post for him about starting beekeeping. I decided it doesn't belong where I posted it so I decided to make a beekeeping thread in the lounge. Since I don't know where else to put it. I was a beekeeper for along time, it was a hobby that I enjoyed a lot, there3 might be other beekeepers interested or people who want to learn about it. If you like drinking mead is a fantastic beverage, it's a great way to make money, and bees take your mind away from negative thoughts and help cure PTSD and addiction.
Hey I hope I didn't say I don't like your posts man. My response in PD Social was meant to be a joke/sarcasm but that might not have come across right through text. My wife and her mom just started two hive boxes, it'll be quite a while before they get their first honey as I understand it. Personally I'm a little jumpy around flying insects as a result of the red paper wasps where I live having an unnatural hatred of me and literally attacking me out of nowhere pretty often... so I'm leaving them to the bee keeping until we move out to the property where they're kept and I've dealt with my fears lol.

Keep on with your long posts man, they're very informative :)
 
Hey I hope I didn't say I don't like your posts man. My response in PD Social was meant to be a joke/sarcasm but that might not have come across right through text.
That was what I figured but on the internet where it's hard to tell between ignorance and sarcasm it's hard to know for sure. I started writing a much too long obnoxious response but even for me that was too annoying. So I went with the technical explanation which I figured had the correct ratio of facetious and unneeded educational. If I was offended or decided I didn't like you or you didn't like my writing I wouldn't have started on about the bees.

I've never encountered the red paper wasps, they don't live in my part of the country. They look like a menace. I got curious about where your reds and my yellow jackets, mud wasps, and bald faced hornets rank on the Schmidt Pain Index. 1 is the weakest sting, 4 is the strongest. Nobody wants to give a clear answer, they exaggerate and wax poetic. Make it sound like they're talking about chili peppers instead of venom.

They mention the red paper wasps as potent, the worst ones are Central and South American types. A couple of those types even rank in level 3 territory which ramps up the pain and swelling but especially extends the length of time the pain lasts. There's some controversy over their classification system and whether or not those two species are spread into the USA and how far their range is. It diminishes from the usefulness of the classification system but seems like the worst ones are in Arizona and Texas near the Grand Canyon and the Rio Grande. Along with another group of potent ones near the east coast in the Carolinas and maybe Georgia and Alabama.

No one has really studied this in depth which is surprising but I'd try to avoid those fuckers. Once again wearing dark clothes, strong body odor, perfume, or cigarettes, and getting near the colony are no nos. They seem to be able to dump the poison itself all over their paper nests as an alarm system to send the colony into a blood frenzy. This way multiple wasps will chase you.

Wasps fly very fast and have excellent vision. If they're in good health they can sting you over and over and over. The pheremones in the venom attracts all their friends who enter the same sting crazed frenzy. Only thing you can do at that point is run like hell into a dark part of the forest where they can't see well. Hopefully find some mucky swamp water to jump into so you can pick up a few leeches and maybe add a water moccasin or a couple copperheads to the fun. My guess is you've spent 3 or 4 days with massive swelling along with very uncomfortable pain and puffiness. Hopefully you had a few pain pills, codeine with tylenol would help along with a few histamines to counteract the swelling.

Then you have Apis mellifera, the western honeybee. All our domesticated bees in the Americas and Europe belong to this species. Africa too, the 'Africanized' honey bee is the same type of bee with a few unique traits. They are more aggressive and much more prone to swarming. Otherwise they're the same and pack the same strength of sting. They are (only) level 2 on the Schmidt scale. The reason Africanized are potentially dangerous is because they are aggressive.

In Africa there are a lot of predators that want the sweet. Especially the honey badger. They defend their colony much more vigorously. The queen has much more fecundity. Lays many more eggs than a European queens, including many more young queen causing the hive to swarm early and often. This is problematic because bee keepers want a consistent queen that is not swarm prone. What you want is an European queen with African workers. They will bring in much, much more honey than European workers. They also have greater resistance to disease so they may be the answer to Colony Collapse Disorder. Long live the African Queen!
 
My guess is you've spent 3 or 4 days with massive swelling along with very uncomfortable pain and puffiness. Hopefully you had a few pain pills, codeine with tylenol would help along with a few histamines to counteract the swelling.
Yessir lol. One single wasp came out of nowhere when I was just standing on my deck drinking coffee; stung me in the head then went for my arms and got me several times. Completely unprovoked. I do live in Texas so if I had to guess they're the more painful/aggressive type cause I've been around yellow jackets all my life and they tend to mind their business. These red ones though built these huge nests that I've tried to root out but can't find all of them, in my attic and rafters. We use three separate chemicals to douse the areas to kill them off as I've emptied whole cans of Raid on one wasp nest to absolutely no effect, it's as if they're adapting with each generation to be unkillable. A buddy of my literally pours gasoline on them, that shit works but I ain't filling my roof with gasoline lol

They literally chase me. I'm terrified of spending time in my backyard, as they specifically target me. My wife must smell right cause they don't fuck with her till she starts killing them. Me? They go directly for my exposed bald head which has encouraged me to always wear a hat now. I ain't ashamed of going bald but I do not ever want to get stung on my head again, had to take so much Benadryl I passed out at work which is not okay or safe.
 
whole cans of Raid
Raid sucks never use that stuff for wasp removal. You can make extra money if you get on swarm patrol because most people don't know the difference between bees and wasps. You'll show up with your gear expecting a new colony and get an all together different kind of job. Find out what the extermination companies charge and charge them around $100.

Wasps are surprisingly easy to eliminate. First you put on your bee suit. Use a lot of duct tape to make sure it's buttoned down. Then you need to get the right kind of killer. Raid sucks. You want an aerosol can that sprays 15 to 20 feet. It turns out that the mint family is deadly to most insects, including bees, hornets, or wasps. They make an aerosol can of the mint spray.


This is a great deal. I like to have a can or two on hand always. Never try to eliminate wasps during the day. They will have more energy, be much more aggressive and many of the workers will be out foraging. As they return they will find you messing with their family and mess you up.

I find out where the entrance is and wait for dark. Or if you're terrified and it's a huge colony wait until the very early morning well before sunrise. It will be cold then and they will be very sluggish as soon as they leave their colony. Locate their door, get 5-10 feet away and cut loose with the aersol can. Drench the thing down. Many will try to leave the next to attack you. The peppermint spray will knock them down. They will roll around on the ground in agony and rage. Any more you see flying at you knock out of the air. You don't want them on your suit. If there are any you can knock them off with the spray.

After 5 or ten minutes the entire nest should be soaked and dripping with the stuff. Use as much as it takes. Usually you don't need to use the whole can but you're likely to need to use over half of it. Any of the wasps hit by the spray will be poisoned and die. Go inside, go to bed or whatever. In the morning you can inspect the devastation you wrought. You might find some stragglers returning to the hive. Give these a burst with a little bit of what you've got left. After they're all dead knock down their paper house and burn it or put it in the garbage so you don't have any new tenants.

It's super easy. That's a great product because it knocks them to the ground long before they can mess with you. Directions say it can spray between 10-18 feet. That should be plenty. A lot of times you can hire behind another tree. Just be sure to have your plans made beforehand. What door you go in and out of so they can't follow you. Which way to run if you panic. Have a 2nd can happy in case there's something wrong with the 1st one. Not only is it fun and easy you can make profit as well!
 
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