Tetrahydrogestrinone & Metribolone

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If people aren't familiar with these, there is a long story behind both. 'The Clear' wasn't sold for use. A BALCO employee would come over and put a drop under the athletes tongue so it was hard to catch them. Eventually the compound was found and then both Banned and made illegal. Metribolone MUST have been a complex synthesis. When the Turkish weightlifting team ALL tested positive for Metribolone, it was a sign that someone had put up some serious money to have this compound made.

I'm interested to know if Tetrahydrogestrinone is still out there. As the US has it's troubles with methamphetamine production, this steroid is no more complex to make. I know people pay a lot for 'the look' but neither of these, the 2 most potent steroids known, has turned up on police radar which is kind of surprising.

As for the steroids - these things haven't been properly tested so the dangers are unknown. If it does turn up, it will be a shady source, and WHO KNOWS what you are actually taking.
 
Yes its still out there
And steroids have been properly tested for a very longtime, some of the more non practical ones havnt, but a lot of the basic ones have
 
Well, those 2 haven't - since they were designer steroids of uncertain providence. The latter has only 20 humans to take it.... NOT a significant trial.
 
Thats basically what i said lol
But who knows, a lot of testing goes into designer steroids because of who they are actually designed for
 
Metribolone is methyltrienolone correct? I got a few vials of it sitting right here. Also have seen a source with THG somewhere but I don't know if it's legit and the price made me not want to find out as it was too steep for a gamble with such an exotic compound.
 
Methyltrienolone is also known as methyltrienolone or R1881. Now, that is suspicious to me. There isn't a handy precursor lying around so it's a LOT of work for a chemist. Tetrahydrogestrinone on the other hand, was made by BALCO in their 'laboratory'. Well, guess what, they didn't have a bab - just an automated pilling, bottling & sealing machine. The actual steroid was made at Victor Conte own laboratory. Then, I found it all that with all the arrests and the big scandal, no lab was ever found. Put simply, they made nothing except a small, trial batch which was made in Conte's kitchen & then, at that time, the Chinese or Indians (actually - everywhere since it was legal).

Conted did come up with a good route and I expect that the material you guys get it ALL THG because it's so simply made. Even so, poor chemistry could see a number of untested side-products. If someone is selling this, ask for an NMR & GC-MS. This is standard and if they are offering a certificate of analysis, they legally have to have the material tested by a neutral lab (that they cannot pick) who will provide those 2 pieces of data. A GC-MS should give the exact fragments which are known for THG and between the GC & NMR, the fragments can b checked.

I don't know the size of usage on this site but such a test on a batch would be a very good guide to the safety of the batch. Someone mentioned the cost. How do you KNOW what you are getting/. If 20 people helped to have a batch tested, it would be around $15 each.

It's possible to make a legal prodrug of THG and the fact that they appear dodgy (from what I have read) suggests that people are 'cooking' rather than being real chemists. The real chemists seem to be making a lot of grey-market steroids but has been a long time since someone looked at the THG molecule and figured out how to make it safer (high oral activity so no need for pins, no acute toxicity and no unexpected chronic toxicity). I wonder if A)They are tied down by the law, B)the semi-legal analogues are made from medicinal steroids (from all kinds of animals) to establish purity of precursor or c)the users often have a pure understanding of the drug(s), dangers & laws (I'm pretty sure people on here ARE informed).

I would love to know how much these jokers are charging for THD but sadly, we cannot post prices or suppliers.

[MOD EDIT - I'm sure you're well-meaning, but you know we cannot allow posts that stray into the territory of supply]

My best wishes to you and everyone you care for CC

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Most of the Chinese producers that are supplying the chain are large and will fabricate and supply whatever is requested. Obviously that's not a guarantee of anything, but THG has been on the market for years. It's not particularly special either, which may explain why nobody has bothered working on it further, and the reason it doesn't have the popularity of something like tren. It's main selling point was being able to evade testing at the time.

FWIW most people who are worried use the various Labmax tests to check what they've got, although not the concentration. It's pretty affordable and easy to do.
 
I suggest that THG isn't what your getting. If the Turkish government were having a 'legal' version of the drug made and THAT would be a lot of work so SOMEONE thinks that it's the best steroid. By the fact that it was the WHOLE weightlifting team tested positive does make it look organized and specifically to increase peak strength.
 
clubcard said:
I suggest that THG isn't what your getting. If the Turkish government were having a 'legal' version of the drug made and THAT would be a lot of work so SOMEONE thinks that it's the best steroid. By the fact that it was the WHOLE weightlifting team tested positive does make it look organized and specifically to increase peak strength.
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Every product out there isnt legit, its the nature of the game. This doesnt take away from the fact there are legit versions out there
 
The point I am making is THG was chosen because the precursor was so easy to get, Metribolone required a LOT of effort to make an almost identical steroid. I mean, are GC-MS & NMR available? In HR, bodybuilders were seen as the least informed group of needle users.

http://www.exchangesupplies.org/shopdisp_practitioners_guide_to_steroids_poster.php
http://www.exchangesupplies.org/shopdisp_safer_steroid_use_postcard.php
http://www.exchangesupplies.org/shopdisp_underground_anabolics_by_william_llewellyn.php
http://www.exchangesupplies.org/shopdisp_hardcore_info_anabolic_steroids.php

Enlarge pages by going to .PDF
 
clubcard said:
The point I am making is THG was chosen because the precursor was so easy to get, Metribolone required a LOT of effort to make an almost identical steroid. I mean, are GC-MS & NMR available? In HR, bodybuilders were seen as the least informed group of needle users.

http://www.exchangesupplies.org/shopdisp_practitioners_guide_to_steroids_poster.php
http://www.exchangesupplies.org/shopdisp_safer_steroid_use_postcard.php
http://www.exchangesupplies.org/shopdisp_underground_anabolics_by_william_llewellyn.php
http://www.exchangesupplies.org/shopdisp_hardcore_info_anabolic_steroids.php

Enlarge pages by going to .PDF
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I still dont understand the point? So its hard to get?
 
The point is, people are saying that THG isn't any good yet BALCO were in business for YEARS and the Turkish team must have spent lotto cash making an analogue. If it's rubbish, why would they?

There SHOULD be NMR & GC/MS data available from a reputable seller and the tests I mention are proof. OK, thy could have made a small amount of THG then sold rubbish, but it's so SIMPLE to make, why would they?
 
clubcard said:
The point is, people are saying that THG isn't any good yet BALCO were in business for YEARS and the Turkish team must have spent lotto cash making an analogue. If it's rubbish, why would they?

There SHOULD be NMR & GC/MS data available from a reputable seller and the tests I mention are proof. OK, thy could have made a small amount of THG then sold rubbish, but it's so SIMPLE to make, why would they?
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What? I just re-read the thread no one said it was "rubbish" we all agreed its just not something special.
You seem to smart and you keep spitting out scientific jargon so I think you can gather yourself the point of making it
 
I've just opted to avoid any oral steroid at all possible costs. Whether its methylated at the carbon 17-alpha position or it's an alkyl addition hence 17aa...(I see those terms confused quite often.)

I don't want my liver to go just yet.
 
Meh hepatoxicity seems to be overplayed. Look at tests done on anemic patients using anadrol lmao. Those guys ran the shit like 300+mg/day for 6 months. Or people prepping for shows using high dose halotestin, methyltrienolone, Winstrol, anadrol, and proviron among other orals for many weeks. For me orals just destroy my digestion. Never had liver issues even with methyltrienolone.
 
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