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Test Results - Doves - Help Needed

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I have just tested some Doves with both Ez Test Extreme (4 bottle kit) and E1, E2 kits.
The results were as follows :-
EZ test classic - turned black/purple in 1sec
Bottles 1+2 (simon's) - turned blue
Bottles 2+3 (Robadope) - turned salmon/red
From this i would deduce that the pill was either a MDMA/MDA combination OR MDMA/PMA combination.
I then tested it with the E1 E2 kits to see if i could analyse it further :-
E1 test - turned purple/black - 1sec
E2 test - turned green to dark green/black with speck of brown.
Does this mean that i have a pill with MDMA and traces of PMA in? Or does the Green repesent Speed (if so - why did the EZ Extreme stages not pick this up?)
If so does a pill that has both MDMA and Speed in only show the speed in the final stage of the EZ extreme test by showing a salmon pink reaction?
Any comments would be greatly appreciated - thank you.
 
I can only comment on X-TREME.
Are you very sure you saw a reaction with Robadope ? This is a tricky one. Use a fair amount of substance, make sure you use the right amount of drops and CAREFULLY watch for a _reaction_, 3-4 minutes.
The liquid may seem to have a similar color as the reaction, that is why it is so important to make sure there is a reaction.
Anyway, if you are sure you saw a reaction then there PROBABLY is a primary amine in that pill. Could MDA, could be PMA.
Hope this helps.
aj
ps If there is Speed, Marquis should go to orange/brown or some ugly Marquisreaction for MDMA/Speed. Note that Amphetamine is also a primary amine.
[This message has been edited by aj (edited 26 October 2001).]
 
There was definately a change in the Robadope stage - changed from slightly orange colour the liquid was to start with to pinky/red colour. Had already tested a different variety also that had no change so had something to compare it with. Thanx for comments - anyone else know any more?
 
Hiya.
My X-Treme kit instructions say that MDxx will turn Marquis purple/black, MDxA will turn Phase 1 blue, and MDA/amphetamine will turn E2 red.
Maybe your pill is a mix of MDMA and MDA, or a mix of MDxA and speed?
Your follow-up test seems to point to the latter. Unfortunately these instructions don't say what reaction PMA will give.
clop
 
According 2 EZ Test http://www.eztest.com/instructions.php
MDMA/MDA reaction will be :-
Marquis-Purple/Black Simons-Darkblue Robadope-Salmon/Red
MDMA/PMA reaction will also be :-
Marquis-Purple Black Simons-Darkblue Robadope-Salmon/Red
If there was speed in the pill i presume it would show in the first (marquis) stage also.
My question is - is there any way of testing - poss by E1 E2 (which i have also done - read top post 4 details) or a separate test altogether to distinguish whether i have MDMA/PMA or MDMA/MDA ?
 
"Unfortunately these instructions don't say what reaction PMA will give."
I don't agree. PMA is a primary amine, MDA as well. It is impossible to distinguish between those.
MDMA = secondary
purple, blue, no reaction
MDMA + PMA = secondary & primary
purple, blue, red
MDMA + MDA = secondary & primary
purple, blue, red
MDMA + MDA + PMA = secondary & pr. & pr.
purple, blue, red
MDA + PMA = pr & pr.
purple, no reaction, red
The only thing you KNOW when Robadope reacts is that there is a primary amine in your pill, which could be PMA, Amphetamin or MDA.
Our idea here is that people normally look for MDMA. MDA is not the same. If Robadope reacts, then basically the pill is not OK. Maybe people think that MDA is OK to take and therefore wish to figure whether it is (for instance) PMA or MDA but the testkit simply does not work like that...
There are many possible combinations with different drugs. Just make sure that you understand what is going on.
aj
 
Thanx 4 your advice. I would definately NOT like the combination of MDMA/PMA but MDMA/MDA would be ok to take.
Is anyone familiar with the E1 E2 testing kits? As when i tested this pill with this kit i got completely different result! I was hoping there would be some similarities so that i could work out maybe what i had!!
'E1 test - turned purple/black - 1sec
E2 test - turned green to dark green/black with speck of brown.'
 
Thanks aj
I wonder why the EZ test X-Treme people didn't show the PMA reaction on their instruction and results sheet, considering that PMA is seemingly the one very dangerous compound that kills people and that we are actively trying to avoid.
clop
 
The dove print is smaller on the ones i have got and they look more blue/white.
 
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