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Test purple with smoke & bubles

evo_merseyside

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Got a pill which I was told was a triangle mitzy, although I couldnt see any logo on it, I expect it worn off as the pill was not pressed well at all. It was very dirty looking and didn't taste bitter... bought it whilst out but decided not to take until tested.
Went purple straight away, white smoke emitted for about 8 seconds and it also bubbled. Continued to darken until a very deep purple.
Have had DXM + MDMA before and didnt like it, and suspect this is the same combination, anyone any ideas?
 
I'm not sure about anyone deliberately making DXM+MDMA bikkies - the whole potential death thing as well as the annoyance of adding two active substances when you can just have pure MDMA.
You will find that fairly pure MDMA will indeed smoke and bubble sometimes quite impressively.
 
yeah, but those results, in particular the slow reaction, indicate the possibility of DXM. it could potentially just be DXM; the initial purple color, if it cannot be explained with DXM alone, could be another substance that reacts with sulfuric acid.
how old is your test kit?
 
These are NOT.. NOT DXM at all, rather they are very high quality MDMA pills (possibly containing meth(amphetamine)) found mostly in the UK and the Netherlands.
This is MOST certain they are not DXM, and having been testing pills here in the UK for a year and a half, I've never seen DXM sold here..
TheGamer
 
Cheers for the info.
It would be good if somebody with a lot of testing knowledge (e.g. TheGamer) wrote a small info page on test results and suspect contents - further to the standard "Oh yer, purple/black = MDMA".
Cheers again
--EVO
 
someone, anyone really, could put a FAQ together from all the answers theGamer, myself, AJ and everyone else have given in this forum in the last year or so.
that someone would have to have time of course, which us mods dont have...
any volunteers?
 
Are these the same test reactions that appear on the instructions to every reagent kit sold?
 
somaho: no, idjit, i think they mean the "bubbles with purple", "flash of brown", "turns green after half an hour" type of questions that we endlessly repeat here, and are definitly not covered in any of those tiny scraps of paper shoved in the kit bottles...
we need a FAQ, and we need it bad...
 
um well what you'd do would be go "show all topics', go back to page one, and start making a list of the most common questions. then put them into some sort of order, then start filling in the answers.
just making the initial list would be a great help...
 
soma you seem to know a fair bit about testing but unless I'm wrong mdma doesn't smoke it does bubble and sizzle but not smoke perhaps a bit more caution on your behalfI'd hate to see someone hurt after your advice correct me if I'm wrong but I'm not
 
Woah steady on knowledge boy.
Firstly - my views expressed here are those of my own, they are not to be taken as a substitute for medical advice or in any way represent a scientific analysis of what a substance may or may not be.
Secondy - Yes, fairly pure MDMA (and speed) will indeed bubble and smoke a bit with the testing reagents. I remember testing a bit of crystalised MDMA and watching it boil quite spectacularly around the plate, like a droplet of water on an extremely hot surface.
 
I have seen triangle mitzi's that contain dxm. I'm not sure whether you have one or not, because usually people will make pills exactly like another, but contain different substances. The triangle mitzi's that i've seen that contained dxm, and was tested with ez test, where green triangle mitzi's, and beige colored triangle mitzi's. But once again, I've had pure mdma in my possession here before in the united states which they call (mollie), and have tested it before, and it turned purple in 5 seconds, and went to black in 7 to 8 seconds, and then fizzed for another 3 to 4 seconds, so it's also possible that you may have a pill with pure mdma.
[This message has been edited by CaNdYkIdD (edited 01 August 2001).]
 
sorry soma for snaping get like that on way down.
but in the interest of harm minimalisation which is what this site is for mdma does not smoke having tested uncut crystals myself the effect you mentioned (drop of water on hot plate) can happen but it doesn't smoke
again appoligise for tone not intent
 
this is a difference of opinion and experience, NOT science. you've both seen different things at different times but until you can show a scientific reference, or get your results published in a peer reviewed journal, they will stay just that, opinions.
not that there is anything wrong with that. i, too, have witnessed "pure" "MDMA" "smoke". i am not a scientist so i will liberally use quotation marks. to me it looked like smoke, and yes it was almost definitly MDMA, and certainly not DXM. if indeed you are a scientist i will bow to your expertise, until then lets agree to disagree.
we've been thru this issue of "smoke" a number of times. with an MDMA reaction what you see can be described as "gas" "smoke" "intense bubbling" whatever, but it does occasionally happen, both with powders and pills.
 
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