terribly sorry but I'm concerned over the fact that...

[monsterwits]

I ingested three hits of what I thought to be acid nearly 30 hours ago and went through some of the worst muscle spasms and burning that I've ever endured on any drug my mouth tastes like metal and my urine is frothy and I can't sleep or say still and there's a lot of pressure on my kidneys. I'd like to avoid the ER if possible any suggestions?

 

[Solipsis]

Do you have any means available to calm yourself down? It sounds like it could be DOB-dragonfly you ingested. Something like a benzo could give relief, you know like Valium or Xanax?
Are the muscle spasms getting any better or are they getting worse? The metal taste in your mouth should not be something to alarm you, it's a side effect called dysgeusia certain drugs can have. What do you mean by frothy urine though? It can just be foaming extra from proteins getting in your urine but how hard are you peeing into the bowl exactly, is it still frothy when you do it more gently with less pressure? I think it's a good sign that you are able to pee. Apart from trying to remedy the situation by some things I am saying I'd lie down if I were you and try to relax as much as possible. Panic will only make these things worse. If you hyperventilate breath into a bag.

Avoiding the ER... well on the one hand getting permanent injuries or worse are things that are a lot more shitty than going to the ER, I would see if you got some meds on hand, call a friend and have them watch over you if you are not going to the ER, that is something of a must IMO. And if you feel things like horrible pain in your fingers and toes and them going extremely tingly then numb, then turning color thats when you should immediately seek medical attention if you insist that you are not going to seek it right away.

Get a friend, get anyone who has a sense of responsibility, anyone at all. If you cannot muster that, you might just have to call the ER after all. Or get someone to drive you to at least avoid the ambulance bill. Then you might be able to sit on watch, say that you do not want to get checked into the ER right away but at the very least be sitting on a bench when you become more certain that shit is getting serious.

 

[monsterwits]

the spasming seems to have passed my urine is greyish yellow and looks like dish soap with the bubbles that arise when I urinate I have no benzos at my disposal just a buddy who'll take me if need be thank you just worried about my kidneys and time elapsed into this catastrophe

 

[Solipsis]

I understand. Well I doubt that at this point they will be able to do something about possible kidney damage anyway, I don't think the problem is that there is too much toxic material floating in your blood that cannot be filtered out but it is probably rather that the drug is vasoconstricting so it fucks with almost all organs like that. Again: a benzo would help so that is something they would probably give you at the ER but it might be 'a very expensive hit' depending on where you live and how your health insurance is configured. On the other hand severe vasoconstriction is not a joke and your health is worth a lot to you as well - it's a choice only you can make. I guess that if the benzo relieves blood pressure and vasoconstriction some that it could limit the load on your kidney and other organs.
The fact that the spasms have went away sounds to me like its going in the right direction. Have that buddy watch over you until it's all okay, do you have valerian or theanine or anything calming?

Yeah the time that stuff takes to wear off is absurd, I have experience with DOB myself which is related to DOB-dragonfly. I had a bad experience with it once as well but it was not exactly a catastrophe either and I did have a benzo to help me out luckily.

Try to do some breathing exercises and take your mind off it by doing something that chills you out. Watch a relaxing TV program or something.

Good luck man, sorry you had to experience this - if it was fake acid then you shouldn't even blame yourself too much - not like you did it on purpose. Though now you know for the next time that you will want to order an EZ test for LSD.

 

[monsterwits]

I live in Canada so the health insurance isn't an issue. Bad festival acid. I just wanted to be high to see Noisia. Thanks for your voice of reason I'm not thinking too clearly right now. I've tried many different research chemicals and always had a strong resolve this just shook me up thanks again.

 

[Solipsis]

No problem dude, take it easy and ride it out right? Count your lucky stars that it wasn't much more serious than this but also take a lesson to avoid it in the future. Accepting drugs at parties and festivals is always dubious and I have avoided it all my life. Next time bring your own acid.

I hope you will consider writing a report for us later and also for erowid?

And if you are okay with it I can close this thread but I can also leave it open for if you have any more questions. I won't be around though because I have my first day at a new job tomorrow and it's super late in the night/morning already because I couldn't sleep from being nervous.

 

[monsterwits]

good luck tomorrow thank you for your help I will follow up with this when I'm thinking clear you've answered all my questions and whatever you want to do with the thread is ok by me

 

[Solipsis]

I have decided to leave it open for you to follow up whenever you feel up to it, so then it's a proper case account if you don't mind me calling it like I'm a bookkeeper. I for one am interested to hear what exactly you experienced, what you thought were key moments that told you things were going badly and when they were going better. We might all be able to learn from it.

In time it will all pass, brother... trust me you will be able to think clearly and feel at easy and sink away down deep in a nice soft bed and sleep in peace.

Says the insomniac who has a sea of benzo's at disposal but is afraid to take more than a little nibble out of fear that he will be half a sleepwalker on his first day on the job.

 

[monsterwits]

unknown chemical sold as hits of blotter lsd

This past weekend I attended a festival known as WEMF. I mainly went there for a few specific performers and a bit of debauchery. Untrusting of pills today and their fluctuating potencies I brought my own MDMA as well as mushrooms and of course marijuana. That Friday night consisted of consuming all the above substances and adding a little ketamine to the mixture that was acquired from friendlies. No one I truly wanted to see was coming on that evening so I was mostly running around admiring the light shows and the all consuming bass. My fun eventually ended with some sleep near dawn.
The next day, granted the previous night's festivities, I was a bit groggy but well aware of my lack of hallucinogens. I discussed this with my friend who attended the event with me and we agreed to keep our ears open. Not too much later my friend heard "acid" in a conversation very near to us and I poked my curious head into it. I admit from that point until consumption after purchase I was naive with excitement. I've attended many other festivals and sometimes had problems with pills but hallucinogens had been pretty solid and there isn't many other compounds that are strong enough to be sold on blotter. We followed "Bobby" back to his campground where I hastily bought five hits of the supposed acid. He was friendly and continuously smoked marijuana with me and gave me beer while we chatted for a bit. In retrospect Bobby mentioned that he had done acid before but that this stuff was "very strong" and that he wouldn't recommend taking more than two hits. Being an abuser of acid in the past I kind of chuckled and decided I was eating all five and some MDMA. I suppose common sense and perhaps instinct started leaking into my mind and a few hours later I had decided to ingest only three and no other drugs besides marijuana perhaps Bobby's meth scarred looking teeth were chewing at my doubts and they were confirmed moments after ingestion when Bobby came by and asked how many I ate and looked rather surprised when I said three because two had been too much for him. I immediately asked him about his visuals and his description lacked the complexity and intricacy of those on LSD.
It was then that I decided I had taken some other psychedelic research chemical and having multiple experiences with a wide variety of them I quickly concluded that it would be different from what I was expecting but easily controlled by my mental control. I dropped at roughly 1730 and didn't feel the slightest of effects until almost three hours later. Lights seem to flicker more and become more and less luminescent at the same time. Very subtle hallucinations seemed to play off patterns and motion unlike the inky melting of acid. Feelings of introspection did not form and a heavy body load started to weigh on me. I had fits of uncontrollable laughter that seemed to contort my face and tighten my chest and at around 2100 on our way down to see the performer we had been waiting the whole weekend for my legs muscles started to weaken and tremble. People's movements seemed jerky and angry. There motions seemed on some fast forwarding loop where there bodies would move at a rapid pace and then be back in the same position as I originally observed. Several times I tried to dance but found my muscles very tight, shaky, and not very responsive and found myself sitting down and standing up repeatedly. The increase in musical perception was absent but the performance more than made up for it and kind of hid the unease I was beginning to feel. We left the festival immediately after Noisia's set.
It was approximately a four and a half hour drive home but the persistence of fast time made it seem like a fraction of that despite my looking at the clock every ten minutes and I remember demanding of my friend that he stop so that I could smoke a bowl. I still felt really tense but bearable and for the most part pretty sober. I drove his car to meet him at the rental place when we got back and when he dropped me off at home I felt wide awake and weird but alright.
I took a shower.
I smoke some more.
I have a bite to eat.
I go lay down.
Walking to my room from the bathroom after brushing my teeth I notice my mouth tastes like chemicals (the same taste when I ate the blotter a very pungent chemical one) and suddenly it's burning. In my bed I close my eyes and notice my heart sounds like it's struggling. Short hard beats and the fire that's in my mouth seems to shoot down to my heart. There is much tension and pain in that area and I'm writhing in my bed. I call my friend and he immediately picks me up but I tell him go to his house because I'd like to save myself the embarrassment (and its consequences). I'm laying on his hardwood floor rubbing my face in the dirt moaning and squirming desperately trying to keep track of my heart rate and he keeps asking me if I need to go to the hospital. Xanax and heroin withdrawals and stopping my heart momentarily on methamphetamines were both excruciatingly painful experiences but had nothing on the way my body was contorted with pain. It felt like I had been injected with bleach and hooked up to the electric chair simultaneously but I keep telling my body a bit longer because I'm too lost in pain to get off the floor. He forces water and bed on me and I flop around in pain until twenty hours after ingestion have passed. Near the end the pain's focus shifted from my heart to my kidneys and there are a few distressing symptoms. No longer incapacitated I walk home feeling as if I very nearly died. My organs are sore and still have a lot of pressure on them and I haven't been able to sleep at all since then and it's now almost 48 hours later. I've been tossing and turning and colder than normal. I feel like even after these chemicals have dissipated it's poison will leave its indelible mark on my organs as they feel ravaged and old.
I know it was a stupid mistake on my part but please don't pass research chemicals off as something that they are not. The lethal dosage of acid is infinitely greater than these newer chemicals many of which have very little margin for error. If I had taken even another hit or mixed it with MDMA I feel like I could very well be dead today. I still have two hits that I'd like to identify so that I can stay as far away from that compound as possible and am seriously contemplating going to the doctor if I'm still unable to sleep tonight and the pain in my heart and kidneys continues.

Any comments, questions, and or suggestions are welcome. Especially if you know where I can test this poison I ate

 

[Darksidesam]

I think that we can both agree that Hastiness and Eagerness and maybe a little too much Excitement got you into this Trouble.

Im sorry to hear you went through this experience so far, and im glad you didnt take MDMA with it. You never know what you are getting these days

 

[eLeSaH]

Your urine shows that you have too much proteins in it. You should go see a doctor and make a piss test for your kidney. They will see how high the value is and they will see how much or less it is "not okay".

 

[monsterwits]

thanks I'm going to go as soon as I'm capable