Ten years have passed - yet I'm still haunted by Leah's death

^ Correct. You can read about the case on TheDEA.org's website:

http://thedea.org/hyponatremia.html

"MDMA places a stress on your system, and one of your body's responses to this stress is to release a chemical that tells the kidneys to allow more of the water they collect to escape back into the bloodstream.[1] As a result, while on MDMA you usually don't have to go to the bathroom for several hours, as the volume of urine being produced is greatly reduced. (The kidneys keep working, they just send less water on to the bladder.) This odd effect can remove what would normally be the main line of defense against hyponatremia: The ability to urinate out at least part of the excess water."
 
yea its sad that they werent smart enuff 2 get a little proper info on the drugs they were doing before doing them dont u think
 
Sphinx (Afterlife) said:
HAH -almost- felt bad for the dumb knobs till this. Priceless.

Thats the kinda feeling on par with somone saying "shit I really fucked up this time" right before you splatter their brains. Awesome. Fuckin beautiful. Love it.


I never once during my teens considered myself invincible. Although ive seen many who have and still continue to, their times will come and I will derive joy from their demise as I have just now.

Sphinx: 1547451
Idiots: -1

I win :)
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Wow you win against some one who lost there sister due to a bad experience with dodgey pills mixed with un-education.

She died mate, u didnt, she was unlucky, you've been lucky - you dont win anything apart from In-sensitive asshole of the year.
 
TEN YEARS? JESUS H. CHRIST ON A BICYCLE!

Rest in peace.


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How long did it take her to drink the 7 litres of water?

I clear 14 pints every time I go out (a'boshing or just a'beering), over 12 hours or so...
 
Leah Betts died from taking ecstasy a decade ago.
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An inquest found that her brain had swollen, which experts said was a result of her drinking a large amount of water in accordance with the advice given to ecstasy users at the time.
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Gee, I had never realized they renamed hyponatremia to "ecstasy"..
 
mike0 said:
thats not true - he would pass the water - MDMA causes the body to hold liquids i believe...
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MDMA makes an over-hydration situation worse but isn't a prerequisite for hyponatremia.
 
Lev said:
How long did it take her to drink the 7 litres of water?

I clear 14 pints every time I go out (a'boshing or just a'beering), over 12 hours or so...
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A whole ninety minutes... Someone said that it was equal to twenty-one glasses of water in a hour and a half or one glass of water in under five minutes. That is insane.
 
Ataxia said:
It would be alright if Leah Betts had died from ecstasy poisoning. She died of fucking WATER poisoning. If she had taken no ecstasy that night, she would have still died!

Fuck me, if a vicar drunk gallons of water he'd get hyponatremia and died from a cerebal edema!

It disgusts me. It's an insult to Leah (RIP).
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i this shit makes my head want to explode. they admit her death had nothing to do with ECSTACY, but was due to too much water, yet start a mass anti ecstacy campain anyway and want to have the drug dealer hung from the gallows?

fuckin idiots.
 
mike0 said:
thats not true - he would pass the water - MDMA causes the body to hold liquids i believe...
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The kidneys can process 1.5L an hour and she drunk 7.5L in 1.5 hours.

That's the equivalent to 5L an hour she drunk. That's nearly 3.5 times the amount the kidneys can handle. My judgment tells me that this could have caused death without the MDMA but admittedly I'm not a doctor.
 
She died of misinformation.

And that FUCKING pisses me off.


Edit: ^ Even more drunk crap, apologies guys....
 
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However an official inquest determined that her death was not directly due to ecstasy consumption, but rather the large quantity of water she had consumed, apparently in observation of an advisory warning commonly given to ravers to drink water to avoid dehydration. Betts had consumed about 7 litres (1.85 gal.) in less than 90 minutes, resulting in water intoxication and hyponatremia (a dilution of the blood disrupting sodium levels), which in turn led to serious swelling of the brain (cerebral edema), irreparably damaging it.
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Based on my review of this case I am recommending an emergency placement of water (chemical forumala: H20) on to Schedule I of controlled substances lists.
 
Sphinx (Afterlife) said:
HAH -almost- felt bad for the dumb knobs till this. Priceless.

Thats the kinda feeling on par with somone saying "shit I really fucked up this time" right before you splatter their brains. Awesome. Fuckin beautiful. Love it.


I never once during my teens considered myself invincible. Although ive seen many who have and still continue to, their times will come and I will derive joy from their demise as I have just now.

Sphinx: 1547451
Idiots: -1

I win :)
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What a piggery atitude you have. I study adolesent behaviour, and it is known fact that GENERALLY speaking, most teenagers do actually invincible. When treating teenagers and counselling them we take this belief into account.

Fool.
 
i hav certainly experienced that feeling of invinciblity, still always researched me drugs properly
wat was wrong wiv her anyway, all the green apples ive dun hav bn like candy, pop a few u feel sweet, 1 pill shudnt hav fuckd her 2 bad
 
we had the same thing here in australia with anna wood she drank too much water and her friends were scared so they wouldnt call an ambulance

i mean really so far they've been teaching drug ignorance u cant just say ecstasy is bad so dont take it u cant even say ecstasy gives u brain damage because nobody's going to listen

we get told all the time how mobile phones cause cancer god i remember when the web came out they said if u stared at a computer screen for too long u would need glasses

now those examples are probably true but how many people do you know have brain cancer from their mobile phone or need glasses because they stay up all night playing cs

its got to do with how we learn and most people who use drugs are the people who learn from their peers experience and their own and if they see their peers taking these drugs which they have been told can kill u easily without seeing anyone dying they are going to instanly think i can do this and i wont die

not everyones going to listen to the tv it doesnt matter if you show a girl on life support destined for death or her distraught parents yes some people will be scared by it but that fear will only protect them if they do not come into contact with people using the drug safely and responisbly

were used to being lied to by the media we sent troops to die in iraq believing they had powerful chemical and biological weapons which they were going to attack neighbouring countries with except no evidence has been found of this at all so why should we trust the media on anything

but what about the people susceptible to the idiot boxes lures with the recent kate moss saga cocaine has once again been glorified as the celebrity drug of choice and if kate moss can do it while holding down a millionaire job why cant we

i feel sorry for the parents of leah as i did the parents of anna i actually met her mum before i was a medic and had seen people die from ecstasy myself but it was never ecstasy on its own all the overdoses iv seen are always ignorant people first timers or casual users even chronic users who think they can handle anything they fuck up when they mix e with alcohol and speed or drink too much water

but why these parents go around the country preaching ignorance instead of harm minimisation baffles me seeing as harm minimisation had more of a chance of saving their daughters than misleading drug campaigns and prohibition which probably contributed greatly to these unfortunate deaths
 
why are ecstasy-related deaths so goddamn emotional....and any other drug its just a drug overdose? ummm could possibly be that NOBODY fucking dies from ecstasy.....hmm?
 
drug_wench said:
wat was wrong wiv her anyway, all the green apples ive dun hav bn like candy, pop a few u feel sweet, 1 pill shudnt hav fuckd her 2 bad
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For a start you live on the other side of the planet and the "green apples" she had were made over a decade ago now 8(

redeemer said:
Also called "DHMO", a scary new drug: http://www.dhmo.org/.
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Haha an excellent site!
 
xXTOKERXx said:
Wow you win against some one who lost there sister due to a bad experience with dodgey pills mixed with un-education.

She died mate, u didnt, she was unlucky, you've been lucky - you dont win anything apart from In-sensitive asshole of the year.
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Let's be clear now—lady luck had no hand in her death. Leah made a choice that she didn't quite think through. If the pills were straight fucked and she got PMA or something, that's bad luck. What she did was just unintelligent. (Not that I blame her...she's the product of her environment. Misinformation = bad shit happens.)
 
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