TDS Social thread vs. 2012.1

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Here is the new TDS social thread! The previous one can be found here.


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Waitaminute.... there's no nudity in the Social threads?

Well, that's it! I'm out of here! <stomps off>

;)

How's everyone doing tonight? I'm feeling particularly lazy, and just taking it easy with a bit of BL, a bit of vegan ragout and a bit of Death Note.
 
Then again.....we are the mods...so technically we can change the rules if we wanna... ;) =D

I kid, I kid.

.....or do I? :D



I am 2.5 days sober....and feeling like complete ratshit. This morning I felt worse than any hangover I've had this year, and was late for work to boot. I'm sure it will get better but for now this completely sucks :|


Hey Dave, what's Death Note??
 
i'm doing pretty well.

are you a vegan, or just for that meal? i'm vegetarian

not to get on a soap box or anything, but i do care about animals so i would like to share a thought i had

imagine that the entire world decided to stop eating meat tomorrow. all the livestock that was lined up to be slaughtered is allowed to live. what are we going to do with these millions of heads of cattle and billions of chickens and etc?

we can't just kill them. that's ridiculous. we've gotta keep them alive and happy if we truly are believers in animal rights.

the cows are bred to produce a *lot* of milk and they're still going to need to be milked for awhile (maybe forever, idk how bad cow breeding has gotten). all those chickens are going to lay a lot of eggs, so we should keep collecting the unfertilized eggs as a humane form of population control.

though if you do prefer veganism that is an understandable choice. vegetarianism is not so bad though :) and like i said if the world quit eating meat tomorrow all that livestock wouldn't just disappear, we'd have to put it to use somehow. :)
 
Cool, new thread.....
real good point above also TNW.
basicly things havnt improved with me, Today was a pretty hectic episode im gonna end up having a heart atack or some shit if i dont get my stress levels down. Feel like stressed Eric with that little vein in his head that pulsates.
n3o Im glad that uv decided to put up the drinkies atm!! Thats an awesome thing i should be following suit, By the sounds of it its no fun though:(
I found after my little episode this morning some relaxation music, lay back n tried to calm down... Must have worked as i fell asleep, Unfortunatly one cant sleep all day:|
 
^^ Thanks mate <3 Sure, the first few days are a bit rough, but I'm sure it's going to get easier tomorrow and the next day. I'm taking it one day at a time though, and not making myself any promises. I'm just going to do the best that I can, because after all, that's all anyone can do :)
I'm so glad to hear you're feeling more relaxed now too, take care okay <3


imagine that the entire world decided to stop eating meat tomorrow. all the livestock that was lined up to be slaughtered is allowed to live. what are we going to do with these millions of heads of cattle and billions of chickens and etc?

we can't just kill them. that's ridiculous. we've gotta keep them alive and happy if we truly are believers in animal rights.
tnw, I totally respect your beliefs and lifestyle <3 But personally, I could never give up eating meat. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE animals. I was a veterinary nurse for many years and have personally rescued many animals from harm and cruelty and whatnot. But on the other hand I feel like I need to eat meat. It is such an integral part of my diet, I feel like I would be quite unwell and unhealthy if I didn't get the proteins I get from eating meat. I believe that humans are supposed to eat meat. We wouldn't have evolved the way that we did if we didn't start cooking and eating meat, our brains wouldn't have gradually become larger and we wouldn't be the intelligent species we are today. Either that or it would've happened much much slower. I completely respect anyone who chooses to be vegetarian or vegan, but it is a choice I can't ever see myself making.
 
for the first time in human history we understand human nutrition well enough that we CAN get away without eating meat.

i don't want to get preachy to the humans here, but i love animals too much to not speak up for them here in The Dark Side.

would you be able to kill your own meat?
 
TNW: I'm transitioning from ovo-lacto veg to vegan. At home I'm all vegan, but I relax it a bit when I'm out as there's often very little available to eat that's properly vegan. Also: I'd love to chat about veganism, but via PM please. People tend to get really riled up about diet for some reason, and I don't want to drag such a serious convo in here. In short though: the hypothetical situation you've described is an excellent reductio ad absurdum argument; in reality, any gross shift in people's eating habits will (not to mention have and are) change(ing) gradually, allowing for appropriate reduction in the production of animal food as the demand drops off over decades. I've no problem with people eating animal foods-- my choice applies to me only, and I'd bet you dollars to donuts that I could cook a steak better than most carnivores! ;)

n3o: Sorry to hear about your sucky day. Are you 'counting' now, or do you just happen to know how long it's been?

Death Note is a neat little anime about a bright, attractive, popular high-school kid who finds a book that allows him to kill people by writing down their names, and embarks on a quest to rid the world of all criminals in order to usher in a noble era of benevolent tyrrany. The animation is well-done but nothing special, but the strength is in the highy psychological cat-and-mouse game played between the kid who finds the book and the hyper-intelligent oddball kid who is trying to track him down to bring him to justice. Meaty stuff.

(pun fully intended, and then some)
 
Dave said:
my choice applies to me only, and I'd bet you dollars to donuts that I could cook a steak better than most carnivores!
My brother-in-law is just like you Dave, he has been a vegetarian his whole life but cooks a mean steak for any dinner guests! :)

would you be able to kill your own meat?
Not with my own hands, fuck no!! I love animals too much. I can't even kill insects or spiders that I find in/around my house :D
But my dad owns a few beef cattle, and occasionally has a professional come to slaughter and butcher one cow for them to eat, meaning that they don't buy any meat from supermarkets and they don't eat any excessive meat, only what they need. And they know that each cow is killed in a humane fashion. I personally don't see anything wrong with that.

Anyway....moving on :)

Dave said:
n3o: Sorry to hear about your sucky day. Are you 'counting' now, or do you just happen to know how long it's been?
Thanks mate <3 Noooo no no, definitely not officially counting. I know from past experience that as soon as I start officially counting the days, that's when I slip-up and fail. I just know that it's been 2.5 days because it's been a loooonnng and arduous 60 hours ;)
 
My brother-in-law is just like you Dave, he has been a vegetarian his whole life but cooks a mean steak for any dinner guests! :)


Not with my own hands, fuck no!! I love animals too much. I can't even kill insects or spiders that I find in/around my house
:D
But my dad owns a few beef cattle, and occasionally has a professional come to slaughter and butcher one cow for them to eat, meaning that they don't buy any meat from supermarkets and they don't eat any excessive meat, only what they need. And they know that each cow is killed in a humane fashion. I personally don't see anything wrong with that.

Anyway....moving on :)


Thanks mate <3 Noooo no no, definitely not officially counting. I know from past experience that as soon as I start officially counting the days, that's when I slip-up and fail. I just know that it's been 2.5 days because it's been a loooonnng and arduous 60 hours ;)


.. someone gave me a goose once,
i made a mess of that in the snow later that night.
lol

i suppose i see it more efficient, and that seed of violence wouldnt be there for others if i was on a desert island.
(predator instincts slighted etc)



its just good to let nature take its course.
:)


the most destructive force
in nature is man
understand
this


<3
 
TNW: I'd love to talk about veg*ism in-thread, but IME it gets out of hand really quickly. If everybody plays nice though, sure, why not? Besides, it looks like the convo's been picked up by some others anyway :)

Along those lines: one of the reasons that I went veg originally was after watching a fish slowly suffocate/bleed out through its gills when ice fishing. It took 20 minutes for it to die. No, I could not kill my own meat, unless it was a full-on survival situation, but if I were to go back to eating meat, I would do my utmost to eat exclusively wild meat. Happy, healthy animals that lived the life that they were meant (more or less) to lead, eating the diet that it was (more or less) meant to eat, and killed in a pseudo predatory (rather than assembly-line) manner-- seems more 'right' for me than heading down to the supermarket to get some shrink-wrapped, pinkened, near-sterile factory flesh.

Again though, that's a choice that I would make, for me alone.
 
Hey guys.

I'm so bored. I'm trying my best to be positive today though. Worst day I've had in a while. Big confrontation with my dad after finding out in the middle of the night the person I love/thought was one of my real good friends, doesn't even want to talk to me anymore. No 5 minute talk telling me why, no way of getting in contact, but pure blocking from contact. Makes me feel so alone and been making me cry my eyes out. I had a good counselor visit though that helped me work a bit through this. Just don't know how long it'll last, but I'm trying to ride it as long as possible.

Gotta study a little bit for the class I started yesterday. I do have a little bit of an edge having been to college (math, dilutions, etc. related crap), and having been studying drugs for years now (needing to memorize/know a shit ton of drugs - their trade and generic name ).

wish I wasn't so bored. Even tv is driving me nuts.
 
Hey Bad.... am curious to see this myself!!! nearly said something like two days after closing. but shits gotta run its course i thought.

With the whole food dissusion i have to say shit, I love animals right i fucking love everything with a somewhat more degre of innocence than we adult humans have, but goddamn I'm a carnivore.... I cant help it, I just love fish, poultry, lamb, pork & kangaroo etc to eat as much as i love them as animals, i love the innocence of babies and small children, But im not gonna eat one, theres a line that needs to be drawn id agree but if i eat brocolii or peas, fucking beans n shit... im a guarented spew. Dont know why... putting it down to bein raised on eating meat n shit food, and allowed to (or was sneaky enough) to put that vegetable crap i didnt like behind the couch or not touch it and when it was served the next day i wouldnt eat it to the point i think my carers just gave up:|
ranting now.... what going on for everyone joining the dissusuion??
 
i'm feeling pretty off today. i had my first therapy session in quite a while yesterday and ended up crying like a baby there. i've been seeing the same therapist for about 4 years now and have never cried there. the whole thing has me kind of reeling and wondering what's going on with me. honestly it scares the crap out of me.

i decided to take the day off and have a me day. i don't remember the last time i spent a full day by myself and i think i need it.
 
@spork. I agree with thenightwatch about the crying. It is an indication that either you touched on something that deserves your full attention, or that it was simply the reservoir finally spilling over due to all the "somethings" combined. In either case crying is good. How wonderful that you took a day off to give yourself the space to sit with whatever comes up. Hope the day goes well. <3

Yesterday, another teacher at work stopped me in the hall and said she just wanted to give me a hug for all I am dealing with.I broke down like the Hoover dam failing. NOT what I want to happen at work, and especially in the hallway. I ended up just letting it happen. While it felt very vulnerable, I realized that it was my own artificial barrier (this can't happen at work) that was actually adding to my feeling overwhelmed. I'm still trying to figure out how to handle my propensity for tears, others discomfort, my own, etc. It's a journey!:\
 
you guys are right. i was being too hard for myself. even though i put a wall around myself so as not to let others in, i should allow myself to at least cry in front of my therapist. i guess what scares me most is that i can feel myself kind of shifting and even though i think it's probably a good shift, it can be frightening to deal with any kind of change. i thought i'd be regretting cutting class today, but i think i really needed this. right now i'm laying on the couch watching old episodes of 90210, WIN :D i push myself too much sometimes.

herbavore, you've been soooooooo strong. i can only imagine how hard everything has been for you. i hope you're taking care of yourself, darling! <3
 
i'm pretty over it now (meaning i can cry freely now), but my father was very emotionally immature when i was a kid. he used to physically punish me for crying... i remember him doing that since before i was preschool age.... i learned to really hate myself for crying, learned to keep my emotions really bottled in, etc.
 
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