If you'd like to read about my taper part feel free to scroll down, thanks :D
Small back story if you are interested: I began taking Kratom almost 3 years ago for depression ( I had just broken up with my first girlfriend (who looks exactly like Liv Tyler btw
) I also moved far away from my life long friends. Everything was wonderful until a few months down the line I ran out of my Lb. Had withdrawal symptoms but shrugged em off as coincidence and continued buying. 10 months later I was a wreck, constantly consuming all day my back in agonizing pain and just horrible health and feeling.
I wanted to get off so I thought I'd go Cold Turkey not know what I was in for. I made it the the second day only. 2 months later I went cold turkey again but this time with 50 Etizolams and a ton of white grapefruit juice straight from the tree in our yard. I was in and out of reality for those 5 days for I never had any Benzo before. I was clean for around 3 1/2 and I was so happy then.
Soon after I had a very very stressful day and in the back of my mind I knew how I could dissipate it right there on the spot. I hesitated but fooled my self into thinking that I could take it the one time. Boom back to where I was taking it every day a month later.
Maybe 2 months down the line I wanted to quit again to this time I went to a Dr. He prescribed me Clonidine and I ordered myself Etizolam. I got through it and was ok kratom free for a few months. Again though and incredibly horrible situation arose coupled with stress that I was dealing with lead to relapse.
Now within the past 4 months I have tried quitting Cold Turkey, one time with more etizolam and gabapentin, (which I lasted to the 10th day but crippling anxiety had me relapse because I couldn't take it.) A month after that I tried again but this time with 50 gabapentin and 50 etizolam along with my regimen of daily nutrients and supplements( I'm a health nut). That time I lasted to the 7th day because again of crippling agonizing anxiety and panic along with a strong burning sensation in my chest. I figure the 50 Neurontin and etizolam had me with rebound anxiety.
At this time I felt as though I lost hope and would never be ale to get of this plant in which I was enslaved to. Until a thought into my head came, and I wondered if my anxiety was not just triggered by PAWS or the rebound anxiety from the pills but because I might be deficient in B12.
I made a schedule with a specialist who works in natural non chemical solutions with health and diet along with proper supplementation of things the body needs along with positive reinforcement. I was indeed very very deficient in B12. I got B12 patches and within the hour I swear if felt like I was back to the person I was before. With renewed conviction I decided that now that I had my anxiety under control it was time to finally take this garbage out of my life.
You can skip to here about help with taper.
So about 2 weeks ago from today I decided I would start to taper. I was reading the relapse rate for people who go cold turkey and it's very high, whereas the ones who taper tend to remain sober. I was consuming 1-2 teaspoons every hour so around 8-10 grams every hour all day long.
On the first day of the taper I went from my huge amount to 2 tsp every 6 hours.
2 days later I lowered it to 1 1/2 teaspoon every 6 hours.
2 days later I lowered it to 1/4 tsp every 6 hours.
Now the tricky part is the 2 days after that I was at 1 tsp every 6 hours. I stayed on that schedule for 4 days because for whatever reason by the 5th hour I was going into major withdrawals (which up until that point I had not had yet, in regards to lowering my doses)
So now I'm at the point of being at 3/4 of a tsp every 6 hours though I feel I can only make it to the 5th hour because the W/D's start to kick in.
I'm gong to continue to lower at my two day rate as I've been doing, but what I want to know or take opinions on is will these W/D effects keep getting worse as I get to these lower amounts? What happens when I reach 1/4 tsp every 6 hours? Should I stay at these lower doses for maybe more than 2 days so my body will get acclimated to them?
And say I get to 1/4 tsp every 6 hours should I just hop of then and deal with the slight W/D? Or should I stick to that 1/4 for a week and maybe trying to aim to once a day?
So this is the part I'm trouble with. If any of you could help I'd be greatly appreciate it. I'm ready to bury this damn monkey that's on my back. Thank for any help!
Small back story if you are interested: I began taking Kratom almost 3 years ago for depression ( I had just broken up with my first girlfriend (who looks exactly like Liv Tyler btw
) I also moved far away from my life long friends. Everything was wonderful until a few months down the line I ran out of my Lb. Had withdrawal symptoms but shrugged em off as coincidence and continued buying. 10 months later I was a wreck, constantly consuming all day my back in agonizing pain and just horrible health and feeling. I wanted to get off so I thought I'd go Cold Turkey not know what I was in for. I made it the the second day only. 2 months later I went cold turkey again but this time with 50 Etizolams and a ton of white grapefruit juice straight from the tree in our yard. I was in and out of reality for those 5 days for I never had any Benzo before. I was clean for around 3 1/2 and I was so happy then.
Soon after I had a very very stressful day and in the back of my mind I knew how I could dissipate it right there on the spot. I hesitated but fooled my self into thinking that I could take it the one time. Boom back to where I was taking it every day a month later.
Maybe 2 months down the line I wanted to quit again to this time I went to a Dr. He prescribed me Clonidine and I ordered myself Etizolam. I got through it and was ok kratom free for a few months. Again though and incredibly horrible situation arose coupled with stress that I was dealing with lead to relapse.
Now within the past 4 months I have tried quitting Cold Turkey, one time with more etizolam and gabapentin, (which I lasted to the 10th day but crippling anxiety had me relapse because I couldn't take it.) A month after that I tried again but this time with 50 gabapentin and 50 etizolam along with my regimen of daily nutrients and supplements( I'm a health nut). That time I lasted to the 7th day because again of crippling agonizing anxiety and panic along with a strong burning sensation in my chest. I figure the 50 Neurontin and etizolam had me with rebound anxiety.
At this time I felt as though I lost hope and would never be ale to get of this plant in which I was enslaved to. Until a thought into my head came, and I wondered if my anxiety was not just triggered by PAWS or the rebound anxiety from the pills but because I might be deficient in B12.
I made a schedule with a specialist who works in natural non chemical solutions with health and diet along with proper supplementation of things the body needs along with positive reinforcement. I was indeed very very deficient in B12. I got B12 patches and within the hour I swear if felt like I was back to the person I was before. With renewed conviction I decided that now that I had my anxiety under control it was time to finally take this garbage out of my life.
You can skip to here about help with taper.
So about 2 weeks ago from today I decided I would start to taper. I was reading the relapse rate for people who go cold turkey and it's very high, whereas the ones who taper tend to remain sober. I was consuming 1-2 teaspoons every hour so around 8-10 grams every hour all day long.
On the first day of the taper I went from my huge amount to 2 tsp every 6 hours.
2 days later I lowered it to 1 1/2 teaspoon every 6 hours.
2 days later I lowered it to 1/4 tsp every 6 hours.
Now the tricky part is the 2 days after that I was at 1 tsp every 6 hours. I stayed on that schedule for 4 days because for whatever reason by the 5th hour I was going into major withdrawals (which up until that point I had not had yet, in regards to lowering my doses)
So now I'm at the point of being at 3/4 of a tsp every 6 hours though I feel I can only make it to the 5th hour because the W/D's start to kick in.
I'm gong to continue to lower at my two day rate as I've been doing, but what I want to know or take opinions on is will these W/D effects keep getting worse as I get to these lower amounts? What happens when I reach 1/4 tsp every 6 hours? Should I stay at these lower doses for maybe more than 2 days so my body will get acclimated to them?
And say I get to 1/4 tsp every 6 hours should I just hop of then and deal with the slight W/D? Or should I stick to that 1/4 for a week and maybe trying to aim to once a day?
So this is the part I'm trouble with. If any of you could help I'd be greatly appreciate it. I'm ready to bury this damn monkey that's on my back. Thank for any help!
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