My report will go over my experiences with tapentadol over 5 days (consecutively). I recently got some tapentadol and didn't know what to expect, having tried the other weaker opioids like tramadol, kratom, codeine and demerol I expected it to be somewhere along the synthethetic opiods like tramadol or a cross between demerol and kratom.
Before I start codeine is one of my favorite opiates, and was on east coast heroin for about 6-7 months, methadone, hydromorphone, fentanyl (smoked/chased gel). I like it specifically b/c it is good enough to take away any w/ds yet still get you pretty good esp with a benzo and or some weed, my favorites include codeine and carisoprodol. The most bizzare/demented high was from demerol follwed by kratom though still very euphoric. My tolerence at this time was such that 30mg-45mg codeine throught the day would take away any stomach discomfort, coughs, etc. Expecting it to be like tramadol (perhaphs a bit less stimulating).
I started with 150mg calculated on a mg scale orally and first thing I noticed was the disgusting taste resembling mephedrone, which was washed down with water (empty stomach). I wanted to give it at least 45mg-1hr before re-dosing more plus I also had on hand soma 350mg, 15mg codeine phosphate and 25mg amobarbital pills (the amobarb I wasn't going to take regardless but I was considering codeine and soma).
I felt the classic 'feeling like diareeah' people speak about around 25-30min later. I started getting very comfortable and took a 6mg bromazepam as well as a toke of 1 hit weed around the 50min mark. I felt really good, much better than tramadol but def not as good as hydrocodone and wanted to re dose but waited until at least 1hr and 20min mark. As I did get up to re dose I felt I was already pretty high, but not nodding so I took about 75mg codeine and 100mg tapentadol. Soon I was nodding out, however the effects would be gone in about 4hrs max and I noticed tolerence to the opioid effects, with much less the norepinephrine sp? with repeat doses. I would say for someone with zero tolerence 150mg-200mg would be optimal and someone like myself with minimal tolerence about 300mg and repeat as needed. I smoked 1 hit weed everytime I took tapentadol.
After I was introduced to the effects followed as usual a 5 day 'binge' where I would dose upon waking up, before going to sleep and also re dosing during the day. I did notice that without the soma I would stay up and fidget a bit more so than with tramadol (hard to go to sleep without re dosing).
Also I noticed that codeine made it a much more pleasurable high with 75-90mg pure codeine along with 300mg tapentadol was enough to be opiated out and nodding for about 3-4hrs however after that if you dont redose you might want to take a benzo or a soma. Like I said this isn't so much the first few times but rather after a couple times tolerence seems to build not to the norephinephrine (sp?) and other non related receptors (anti histamine for example) but to the synthetic type of opioid. Regarding the antichlorigenic (sp?) effects of tapentadol I found it unique and part of the euphoric effect rather than take away from it, also I never got visual hallucinations but maybe slight visual changes (as in high/stoned) but nothing like taking 3-4 benadryls.
Also after my day of fun the 'fun' continuned and people close to me that didnt know would tell me that I'm agitated and nervous, when in reality it was a mixture of both agitated and relaxed (more relaxed but yet I could feel it) for example if I took a hit of weed or a couple codeine pills I would feel the relaxed/opiated part more. Without the soma and codeine I admit that after 2-3 consecutive doses I would snap much easier for no reason, I felt very impatient with people around me, impatient with people in the clerk isle...basically after 3-4hrs I would feel jittery but a soma, a light benzo, and a hit of strong weed would have me really good again.
To compare tapentadol, without having had M1 or other rare/strange opioids, I would say its much better than tramadol to start and expect a buzz like a light to moderate dose of demerol or like a heavy dose of kratom bearing in mind it definatley has SNRI effects the more pronounced with usage and higher opiate tolerence. It is not as energetic as tramadol however more so than any others. I have much experience with oxy and it doesn't really compare with oxy at least not recreationally however it possess the uplifting effect that all other synthethic and semi synthetic opioids have, for instance it was next to impossible for me to nod out with a tolerence on oral fentanyl though i'd get high as fuck. It's something that I won't go out my way to experience again however I'm glad I tried it and it definatley stands alone there as an opioid with SNRI propreties so anxiety/insomnia in high doses may be a factor (I had 30 100mg pills over 5 days).
btw, I've taken tapentadol with and without other potentators and/or opiates, my report is of both instances that it is a step up from tramadol and more in the direction of codeine (not as uppy/jittery as tramadol).
Before I start codeine is one of my favorite opiates, and was on east coast heroin for about 6-7 months, methadone, hydromorphone, fentanyl (smoked/chased gel). I like it specifically b/c it is good enough to take away any w/ds yet still get you pretty good esp with a benzo and or some weed, my favorites include codeine and carisoprodol. The most bizzare/demented high was from demerol follwed by kratom though still very euphoric. My tolerence at this time was such that 30mg-45mg codeine throught the day would take away any stomach discomfort, coughs, etc. Expecting it to be like tramadol (perhaphs a bit less stimulating).
I started with 150mg calculated on a mg scale orally and first thing I noticed was the disgusting taste resembling mephedrone, which was washed down with water (empty stomach). I wanted to give it at least 45mg-1hr before re-dosing more plus I also had on hand soma 350mg, 15mg codeine phosphate and 25mg amobarbital pills (the amobarb I wasn't going to take regardless but I was considering codeine and soma).
I felt the classic 'feeling like diareeah' people speak about around 25-30min later. I started getting very comfortable and took a 6mg bromazepam as well as a toke of 1 hit weed around the 50min mark. I felt really good, much better than tramadol but def not as good as hydrocodone and wanted to re dose but waited until at least 1hr and 20min mark. As I did get up to re dose I felt I was already pretty high, but not nodding so I took about 75mg codeine and 100mg tapentadol. Soon I was nodding out, however the effects would be gone in about 4hrs max and I noticed tolerence to the opioid effects, with much less the norepinephrine sp? with repeat doses. I would say for someone with zero tolerence 150mg-200mg would be optimal and someone like myself with minimal tolerence about 300mg and repeat as needed. I smoked 1 hit weed everytime I took tapentadol.
After I was introduced to the effects followed as usual a 5 day 'binge' where I would dose upon waking up, before going to sleep and also re dosing during the day. I did notice that without the soma I would stay up and fidget a bit more so than with tramadol (hard to go to sleep without re dosing).
Also I noticed that codeine made it a much more pleasurable high with 75-90mg pure codeine along with 300mg tapentadol was enough to be opiated out and nodding for about 3-4hrs however after that if you dont redose you might want to take a benzo or a soma. Like I said this isn't so much the first few times but rather after a couple times tolerence seems to build not to the norephinephrine (sp?) and other non related receptors (anti histamine for example) but to the synthetic type of opioid. Regarding the antichlorigenic (sp?) effects of tapentadol I found it unique and part of the euphoric effect rather than take away from it, also I never got visual hallucinations but maybe slight visual changes (as in high/stoned) but nothing like taking 3-4 benadryls.
Also after my day of fun the 'fun' continuned and people close to me that didnt know would tell me that I'm agitated and nervous, when in reality it was a mixture of both agitated and relaxed (more relaxed but yet I could feel it) for example if I took a hit of weed or a couple codeine pills I would feel the relaxed/opiated part more. Without the soma and codeine I admit that after 2-3 consecutive doses I would snap much easier for no reason, I felt very impatient with people around me, impatient with people in the clerk isle...basically after 3-4hrs I would feel jittery but a soma, a light benzo, and a hit of strong weed would have me really good again.
To compare tapentadol, without having had M1 or other rare/strange opioids, I would say its much better than tramadol to start and expect a buzz like a light to moderate dose of demerol or like a heavy dose of kratom bearing in mind it definatley has SNRI effects the more pronounced with usage and higher opiate tolerence. It is not as energetic as tramadol however more so than any others. I have much experience with oxy and it doesn't really compare with oxy at least not recreationally however it possess the uplifting effect that all other synthethic and semi synthetic opioids have, for instance it was next to impossible for me to nod out with a tolerence on oral fentanyl though i'd get high as fuck. It's something that I won't go out my way to experience again however I'm glad I tried it and it definatley stands alone there as an opioid with SNRI propreties so anxiety/insomnia in high doses may be a factor (I had 30 100mg pills over 5 days).
btw, I've taken tapentadol with and without other potentators and/or opiates, my report is of both instances that it is a step up from tramadol and more in the direction of codeine (not as uppy/jittery as tramadol).
