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Ferre7

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Preface. A little bit about myself before I start this post. Don't get me wrong. I've done quite a bit of research on drugs. I've read a lot around here on bluelight, and other websites like this :) I enjoy learning everything about drugs. From how they effect people, how to prevent addiction, how to get out of addiction, noticing it, etc. How drugs effect the brain over a short period of time and what happens, molecularly. Bad trips, and how to prevent them. Good trips, and how to have one. I really like knowing what I'm getting into before I do it, so I looked around a lot before doing any kind of drug.


What's the truth about marijuana? Is it unhealthy to smoke 1-2 times a week? What about everyday? Can you lead a perfectly normal life, smoking 1-2 times a week? (Having a good job, family, friends, marriage, etc.) Does anyone here have a normal life while addicted to any substances? (Or use 1-2 times a week.)

Those are some things I talked about with my dad...yet he couldn't beat me on any of my points about any of it. I said eating fast-food everyday is probably worse than smoking weed every now and then. Not everyone gets addicted to it. When I smoked I wasn't addicted to it, so why does he think I'll become addicted in the future? I maintained a 3.2 gpa this semester, which has been around what I've always gotten in school.

He told me no one out there does drugs, yet has a fulfilling life--yet one of my friend's dad, low and behold, smokes weed, and gets an excellent income. Oh yeah, he's "One in 10 million." My ass.

The only got me on 2 things, which I would have to agree I understand: Insurance. Not driving high, but driving with the THC in my system/bloodstream. If I were to get in a horrible car accident where people died, cars were mangled, etc. they would drug test me. But they would say "Oh look, _____ has THC in their system. He's been smoking pot. Let's throw him in jail." And now, the insurance wouldn't cover the accident, even if it wasn't my fault.

The other thing they got me on was this: It's illegal. Even though I convinced them alcohol should be illegal too. (Because it fucks you up more, can turn people angry, driving is MUCH worse than while high, etc.) They still don't care. Even if weed gets legalized, it's still morally wrong to do. If it was morally wrong, and I did it, that would make me a bad person. But that's not true, because I can still be a great person, and am, even if I smoke, or don't. Being good or bad doesn't matter on drugs or alcohol. Being bad would be characterized by stealing, lying, cheating, things that negatively effect other people.

So what is it? Are my parents sucked into the media, believing everything that goes there way? Believing what they want, not believing what they don't want? Or have I just been looking in the wrong areas for research about drugs? I've looked around bluelight quite a lot (and other websites, but this one primarily.)

Thoughts?
 
Everyone has different opinions and experiences with marijuana. I know some daily smokers, like myself, who live a 'normal' life, have jobs, make money, pay for school etc. and do not let marijuana effect their school/work life.

But there are some people out there that let weed get to them and have a negative impact on their life- spending all there money to weed, losing their jobs etc.

This all comes down to who you are as a person and what you want to do with your life. If you think you could handle smoking weed responsibly, meaning that you can keep everything else in your life stable, then keep on tokin. As for your parents, there's nothing you can really do to change their opinion; unless you could get to them and tell them how weed won't effect your life negatively.
 
i smoke every day, have for ten years. im 24 self employed and make good money i have a hot girlfriend and the one before that was too, i am very active and healthy. smoking weed can make you lazy and be counter productive but it depends on you and what you make of it.

it can be quite hard to convince some people that cannabis is a good thing. :\
 
Reading this made me think of my rents as well, whenever we've had 'the talk'. Everytime we do I just shut them down mostly and they realized I knew exactly what I was doing and wasn't an idiot, but still. They always dwelled on this 'what if' shit. My rents tell me that too, they're like 'you don't know what your going to be like in the future, you'll just get addicted' blah blah. I just understand that they're parents and they're gonna say that cuz that's pretty much their jobs, so that's why now I'm pretty open about it with them, and occasionally if only my dad's around I'll tell him I'm going out back to burn. I know he's never tried it, so I've actually offered him maybe times but he hasn't come to do it, although I suppose when I'm older he might.
 
Ferre7 said:
The only got me on 2 things, which I would have to agree I understand: Insurance. Not driving high, but driving with the THC in my system/bloodstream. If I were to get in a horrible car accident where people died, cars were mangled, etc. they would drug test me. But they would say "Oh look, _____ has THC in their system. He's been smoking pot. Let's throw him in jail." And now, the insurance wouldn't cover the accident, even if it wasn't my fault.

The other thing they got me on was this: It's illegal. Even though I convinced them alcohol should be illegal too. (Because it fucks you up more, can turn people angry, driving is MUCH worse than while high, etc.) They still don't care. Even if weed gets legalized, it's still morally wrong to do. If it was morally wrong, and I did it, that would make me a bad person. But that's not true, because I can still be a great person, and am, even if I smoke, or don't. Being good or bad doesn't matter on drugs or alcohol. Being bad would be characterized by stealing, lying, cheating, things that negatively effect other people.
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On both counts, they're right. Regardless of how you fight it in court or with the insurance carrier, it could be argued that because it was in your system it's possible that you were under the influence at the time of the accident.

As to it being illegal, the only thing you could convince them of is that you're not a careless user who flaunts his drug use in public, and that the safest way for you to smoke would be in the privacy of your home (or at least on your property).



Seriously, though, these are the same 2 points I was never able to win my parents over on when I was younger.
 
Thank you for your responses. It's not that I can just keep tokin' it up, because they won't let me! Lol. I'm trying to convince them to let me do it, even if it's only once a week or two. I asked them to stop drug-testing me. I know they're just trying to do their job, which I do appreciate, but no matter what I say, they'll just say, "We won't stop you from doing drugs, but if you do decide to, there will be consequences. We'll take away your Driver's License and sell your car."

Do you think they'd be more apt to me being able to smoke SPICE? I guess you can buy it at smoke shops, it's basically the same thing as weed. Except it doesn't show up on drug tests, and is a bit more expensive than weed. Thoughts on going about that argument?
 
Fortunately my mom is more open minded than my dad and I had a long conversation with her about marijuana and eventually almost completely changed her mind about it. She didn't have a problem with me smoking a few times a week. Since then she's found a variety of my drugs and has a pretty open mind about it all as long as its nothing with an extremely high addiction potential.

Her main arguing point however is that since I smoke pot I've already crossed that line into the illegal area and am therefore more likely to try other more addicting drugs, and ever since she found some mushrooms of mine she's been holding that point over my head.

Regarding drug tests, my dad tested me once when my friends dad told him we were going to community service blazed as hell every day :) . Came up positive for THC within seconds but he didn't do anything about it, he "just wanted to know the truth."

Using spice as an alternative to marijuana is not a bad idea, it has synthetic cannabinoids in it which from what others say feel pretty similar to actual marijuana. Give it a shot, see how you like it. The only problem is these are research chemicals and the long term effects are not very well established..
 
My father knows, i don't think he likes it when i smoke it alone though. I think it makes him feel like im a loser or something. He is open minded, because he used to smoke it alot to, so be a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.
 
The other posters have covered this pretty well. Ionno what jurisdiction you are in, but if you are in the US, watch BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters and do not be stupid about where you smoke, who you smoke with, or who you tell that you smoke.

I think the insurance part is being paranoid unless you are a bad driver. I do not even know if they regularly drug test drivers in horrible car crashes. If you are not a bad driver, I think it is not worth going without cannabis.

Ferre7 said:
Even though I convinced them alcohol should be illegal too. (Because it fucks you up more, can turn people angry, driving is MUCH worse than while high, etc.)
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People have just as much moral right to drink alcohol as you do to smoke pot. They are only doing it to themselves. If they hurt someone, then yeah, it is a problem. But just because some people do stupid actions while drunk does not justify taking away the liberty of everyone.
 
yourlife_befree said:
Everyone has different opinions and experiences with marijuana. I know some daily smokers, like myself, who live a 'normal' life, have jobs, make money, pay for school etc. and do not let marijuana effect their school/work life.
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Or so you would like to believe.

Marijuana is very talented at making you believe that it doesnt affect your life. I'm not saying you're lying about having a job or anything but i'm certain that if you would quit you would become more productive at work/school and in time have a much better and rewarding life
 
Personally I love smoking the pot and I have been for around 14/15 years. I have gone through periods of smoking it every day especially when I was buying it in bulk. It's only really in the past 5/6 years that weed has actually become common here and before that I was smoking hash/pollen and I would buy it 9 ounces at a time and all for personal use. It was when buying these 9bars and having a seemingly endless supply that it started to have a negative impact. I was younger and I didn't know myself that well. I am a little lazy at times and hash just made it easier to be lazy.

Even these days when I buy an 1/8 or a 1/4 of weed I will have a massive temptation to "wake and bake" and remain stoned all day. I will do this without any hassle if it's the weekend and I'm not busy but I find that normal everyday stuff is hard if I am very stoned all the time so I try not to smoke if there is anything important I need to do.

I have absolutely nothing against smoking it and I feel it is really beneficial at times and a lot less damaging than drinking alcohol or whatever but you still need to be responsible and cautious with it. Don't smoke too much or you might get quite paranoid (a feeling I have oddly learned to enjoy!) or throw a whitener and vomit!! Also be aware that it IS illegal so try not to get caught !!

I am a fairly well adjusted and content person and I don't feel like it affected me in a bad way but I do encourage responsible use.

Don't overdo it. Don't sit on the couch for a week smoking a ounce to yourself and playing computers games (well only in the summer time :D ).

It's a perfectly wonderful, safe and powerful plant and it's still possible to be successful in life but you need to know yourself. Experiment but don't get carried away too quickly. It affects different people in different ways. For me everyday stuff and chilling is fine on weed but work/study is difficult.
 
read up on Existentialism! I think you would like it...

Jean-Paul Sartre talking to a waitress in a cafe: "Can I get you something to drink, Monsieur Sartre?"
Sartre replied, "Yes, I'd like a cup of coffee with sugar, but no cream".
The waitress replied, "I'm sorry, Monsieur Sartre, we are all out of cream -- how about with no milk?"

:)
 
"The other thing they got me on was this: It's illegal. Even though I convinced them alcohol should be illegal too. "

What a good argument for your weed consumption...8)

Yeah, let's prohibit alcohol again and lock up those Millions of alcoholics, I'm sure that helps. And if you get angry when you have a few beer, then that's your problem. I get more calm and less anxious when I drink than when I smoke weed.

I would rather have argued that your parents' equation of law and moral is highly dangerous and authoritarian (what do your parents think about the racist laws in the 18th and 19th century or the homophobic ones of the 20th?).
 
Zzyzx said:
i'm certain that if you would quit you would become more productive at work/school and in time have a much better and rewarding life
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how can you claim to know what constitutes a rewarding life for someone else (let alone your assumption that you know how marijuana affects their life) ?

a generalization like that seems awfully presumptuous.

to the OP: as long as they're your parents and own the car you drive, i wouldn't expect them to let you use an illegal drug. sucks that its illegal, but no amount of reasoning with your parents is going to change the law.
 
socalrollin said:
i smoke every day, have for ten years. im 24 self employed and make good money i have a hot girlfriend and the one before that was too, i am very active and healthy. smoking weed can make you lazy and be counter productive but it depends on you and what you make of it.

it can be quite hard to convince some people that cannabis is a good thing. :\
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Near impossible sometimes. The good thing about weed is that you have the ability to control how it affects you. You can live an ordinary life and smoke weed everyday.
 
The most effect means i've come in contact with was a ziplock bag with one "Running from the cure" DVD along with several printed & sourced studies one from harvard regarding THC's ability to potentially cure any disease/health problem relating to or caused by mutating cells.
harvard study

Please be aware that the pharmaceutical complex has began "funding" studies looking for negative effects of THC. When these teams stray from the set course, find conflicting data & make it public or find anything potentially beneficial about this plant and compound there funding gets yanked and they get stepped on. Be on the look out for articles stating how "horrible" cannabis is for you. This drug war propaganda & a sure sign some science is making it to the people.
 
Every drug has both responsible and irresponsible users. I have a great job in a corporate environment and excel at my position. I also smoke weed daily and have been an IV user of opiates 4 or 5 times a month for years. Granted I may be the exception in regard to the opiates, but it can be done. If someone let's a substance take over their life, its the persons fault, not the chemical.
 
I'm also in a similar situation. I was arrested for possession back in April of 08, and just recently completed probation and my Dad asked me the other day if I had smoked pot since being released and I was honest with him and told him yes. He flipped out and kept talking about how disappointed he was in me and so forth. Then I brought it up to my Mom, who I thought would be more understanding/compassionate, and she flipped out worse. She got so pissed off to the point she told me that if I was addicted, she would take me to get help. I laughed that one off, but I feel like I'm being punished for wanting to be honest. I understand their concern, especially since I've been in trouble over it before, but my pot use has had NO ill effects on my life what so ever except that 1 time. I've held a job, I've got a college degree, I am a working and traveling DJ, I have my head on straight, I have goals and ambitions as well. Even that 1 time, I didn't get in trouble for just being stupid with it or anything, I was pulled over because I left a party, for my license plate light being out, and the cop said she smelled pot and searched my car. But anyway, yea, I'm not exactly sure what to do in my situation. I attempted to talk to them about it, from 1 adult to another, but it's all about 'It's illegal!!' to them, and I can't seem to bring anything up that get's them to see around that. It's very frustrating.

If anyone has any suggestions for me, I would greatly appreciate it. I really don't know where to go from here.
 
^^Suggestion: if you were talking from "1 adult to another" you need to realize that 1 of those adults controls access to a warm bed and roof over the head of the other adult involved. It's their house, their rules. If you have a problem with their rules and can't reasonably change their opinions then you need to move into your own place, or at least one where the rules are better suited to the kind of life you want to live.


It's amazing how most of the over-18 sons and daughters living at home with their parents want to be treated with the equality of an adult and the deferential treatment of a child at the same time...
 
Well my dilemma has nothing to do with me living under their roof. I'm just wanting them to understand it, and why I choose to use it and all that bullshit they were fed when they were younger isn't true. I want them to be able to respect the decision that I made to smoke pot, and not look down their nose at me for doing so.
 
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