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Taking LSD on death row

my3rdeye

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I found this story interesting an LSD trip while in prison the 70's. I can't imagine tripping in that environment.

The Death Row to Neptune Express

By BaddBob | Published: August 31, 2010


Joseph A. Morse, San Quentin Prison’s Death Row, 1972.

After nearly a decade of subsisting on valium, seconal, prison-made wine and
a little heroin, I was introduced to LSD. My fellow condemned prisoners were a little reluctant to try the new chemical because of the gloomy environment, but I had practically been raised on death row. I had arrived there at age 19, and after nearly a decade I was still about 19 mentally and emotionally. So, what the fuck? Bring on a bad trip. How could it be any worse than reality?

Continued

http://thecargoculte.com/archives/1261
 
Really people like this (killed mom, invalid sister) need their heads taken off with over-sized sheers. Fucking monster. Government is a tell of failure. Yea we argue life in prison is more of a punishment than insta-death but frankly its not my fucking job to punish some guy I don't have and don't want (and probably wont have) involvement with. The most I'd be willing to do is amputate them from the life I'm with. Not pay for the meals or TVs or computers... their fucking air.

Sorry for the OT post, but reading about what that guy did... GRRRR. DEATH.

Justification for keeping alive? Poke. Prod. Artificial inoculation of disease to study... etc. Not jail.

funny his story though.
 
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What 23 said:
Justification for keeping alive?
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Because you judge a society on how it treats the weakest, most hated members of it? If you're going to kill them would you hang them live on national TV? If not, why not?
 
If a criminal can be proven without reasonable doubt (and DNA) to have murdered, I'd be just fine with public humiliation and execution. Seems to result in less murders per capita in Arabia and other lands. Let me keep my guns and punish the killers and we would have a much better world.
 
^^

Should you judge someone on the worst 15 minutes of their life tho?

Yeah it happens in Saudi Arabia - which also happens to be the cruellest, corrupt most backward place on the planet. Perhaps that gives us a clue?
 
It's not a matter of judging so much as Murder 1 is illegal in anyone's land. I know the Orient has no 10 commandments but all of the monotheistic religions have the same 10 and even if you are a devote atheist type we can all agree though shall not murder.

And hey, if some scum were to break into your home, rape then murder your mom or wife in cold blood and you could accept that, dismiss it all as a bad 15 minutes of the scum's (overlooking that it was a WORSE 15 minutes of the victim's life) and resulted in them raping, then taking a life precious to you...more power to ya.
 
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True mgs, I'm not saying I'd be able to forgive but I just wonder whether execution is the best way to go.
 
psood0nym said:
^Here's the history of the trip report writer, Joseph Bernard Morse. He's not someone I'd expect to be highly articulate.
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Well now we know what happens when a sociopath/psychopath takes LSD as it's still all about them, manipulation, and all that; but we knew that before with Charles Manson and his "family" but I don't buy into the theory of mind control via LSD that was written about in the book Helter Skelter.

There are also other serial killers who were into LSD like Herb Mullen (http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/weird/mullin/index_1.html), Richard Ramirez, Bob Berdella, and Richard Chase (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Chase).

I have mixed feelings about the death penalty. Sometimes I am for it but when I'm not for it I keep in mind that prisoners who kill women or who murder multiple people in cold blood are not looked highly upon at all in the prison system and often times karma catches up to them.
 
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This guy was on LSD when he committed a murder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Allen_Smith

LSD hysteria was out of control for a long time, it is hard to separate the fact from fiction, as well there are people who may have blamed LSD as an excuse/defence. There are confirmed cases of people committing horrible acts on LSD though. They are usually bad people to begin with like the murders above.
I find stories about people dropping in Vietnam to be interesting too.
 
my3rdeye said:
This guy was on LSD when he committed a murder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Allen_Smith

LSD hysteria was out of control for a long time, it is hard to separate the fact from fiction, as well there are people who may have blamed LSD as an excuse/defence. There are confirmed cases of people committing horrible acts on LSD though. They are usually bad people to begin with like the murders above.
I find stories about people dropping in Vietnam to be interesting too.
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I also find the concept of people using LSD and other drugs in Vietnam and in other dangerous places to be interesting since I don't see the point, and I'd assume you'd want to be completely sober and alert and not tripping or on drugs at all since your own survival and your team of people and their survival would be your #1 priority.
 
Well i've taken to smoking a hit of 5-MeO-DMT to absorb difficult feelings...last Saturday I nearly was killed in a head on collision. I lost my car, I cannot work (and I have a great seasonal sales job), and my car was my means to get West in October and I (will be with a new car) camping along the way. Anyway, the night that happened I took a hit and had yet another ++++. IF I were in a war zone, I would TOTALLY trip my ballz off.
 
I'm totally serious but you guys have to understand I have incorporated the 'entheogenic way' and 'regular life' into the same thing. I am always tripping and I don't mean I eat psychedelics every day. I know the way I choose to experience life is not how many others in the west choose to live, and I know the psychedelic state is not yet accessable and applicable to 'real life' the way it is for me, so color me weird.
 
Maybe society should be put on acid so there's no death row anymore. Wait that already happened on the 60s and there is still death row 50 years later.
Let's better put it in the water supply this time, for two weeks maybe it helps.
 
Ismene said:
Because you judge a society on how it treats the weakest, most hated members of it? If you're going to kill them would you hang them live on national TV? If not, why not?
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We should probably have them stoned to death by idiots like 23 who can then throw the first stone. Best film it in 3d and show it in cinemas so that other idiots can eat popcorn while watching.
After that they can overdrive the dead body with a monster truck and play their national anthem.
 
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