In my experience sub has always blocked kratom.
Sub blocks a lot of things ime. Its virtually impossible for me to get drunk while on sub.
In the past a 6 pack would have me feeling almost drunk, on sub I can drink a 12 pack
and still feel completely sober... which is why I stopped drinking years ago.
Kratom may feel a bit like caffiene, but sub overwhelms most of its other effects.
With MDMA I have to take double the dose to peak.
If I was you I'd drop down to 2mg and see how that holds you. Then slowly taper
down to .25mg or below. Thats the dose I'm at now.
My plan for stopping is to jump off this dose on to some extended release codeine.
Codeine is weak but still much better than kratom imo.
Last time I tried kratom for opiate wds I was wired out of my mind, anxious, and tired
at the same time. Its a hard feeling to describe but it does not feel good. The kratom
did take a bit of wds away, but it added some very "dirty" side effects of its own.
So overall it made wds like 10xs worse.
Same thing with tramadol. I made it 2 weeks on tramadol while trying to stop opium,
and the tramadol killed some pain, but made me feel extremely wired and anxious.
When I stopped the tram I went back into full wds and thats when I jumped on sub.
But overall I think the best drugs you can take (for wds) are:
Codiene
DHC
Darvocets
Clonidine
Seroquel
Ibuprofen
Immodium
In detox years ago they gave me darvocet + clonidine + seroquel + ibuprofen and on
occasion immodium. On really bad nights I got ativan.
But I was surprised how easy it was to come off a high dose of opium.
Thats why I may spend [noprices] and pick up a bunch of detox meds. I may just
detox myself the same exact way I was detoxed in the hospital. It costed [a lot]
in insurance but I don't have insurance anymore so I figured I'll skip the hospital
and just acquire the meds.
