Taking Benzos pre-trip

[BruceLeeSwag]

I've been having some anxiety and small panic attacks after consuming all types of drugs, for the first hour or two and then after that I end up having an amazing time.

I am thinking to use 1mg Etizolam a hour or two prior to taking 20-25mg of 2cb, is it going to dumb down the visuals at all ? does anyone have any experienced or tips for using benzos to relieve anxiety of trips ?

 

[Cyanoide]

There was a similar thread not too long ago, and I have to rephrase what Solipsis said. If you have to take a benzo before a trip, really consider if you are ready for a trip. The whole preparation and mindset is affected if you have a fear that something goes wrong and take benzos just in case.

If you get anxiety and panic attacks from various drugs, I really would urge you to consider if it's worth it.

But if you have made up your mind and nothing will change it, benzos do affect trips. Your mind will be more cloudy and you'll have less mental clarity. I have used benzos on some trips to relieve hypertension. If you only take a small amount of benzos, the impact on visuals is quite small IME. 2C-B is stimulating so a benzo would take away the edge of it. I don't know if that's a desirable effect for you.

Now, if you are prone to panic attacks, why not take a benzo as an emergency aid if you start feeling panicky?

 

[BruceLeeSwag]

The anxiety started after I did a 5-6G shrooms trip, got completely mindfucked and a whole range of other not so nice effects. This was 3 or 4 months ago now and I've been slowly working a few stimulants, mxe and psychs on low doses to build my confidence back up.

I Decided to wait until I have benzos before I take any mid-heavy dose of psychs in future, I though maybe taking a low dose pre-trip would remove my "pre-peak" anxiety as I feel totally confident after I start peaking. If this isn't good then I'll just have a few etizolam pills in proximity when I take psychs.

I don't have any anxiety outside of taking drugs, no depression or anything and when I take drugs I don't have "panic attacks" so to say more like just feeling sick, heart rate increasing and feeling very nervous all of which subside after I start feeling the drug, anticipating whats going to happen seems to be my problem.

 

[Cyanoide]

If you are taking tryptamines (with the exception of AMT and 5-MeO-AMT) you could consider beta blockers instead. E.g. propranolol. They don't make your mind cloudy like benzos do. Just don't take them together with stimulants or phenethylamines.

 

[BruceLeeSwag]

I will be using phenethylamines since I got a whole range of them I would like to try.

 

[Cyanoide]

The anxiety started after I did a 5-6G shrooms trip, got completely mindfucked and a whole range of other not so nice effects. This was 3 or 4 months ago now and I've been slowly working a few stimulants, mxe and psychs on low doses to build my confidence back up.

I Decided to wait until I have benzos before I take any mid-heavy dose of psychs in future, I though maybe taking a low dose pre-trip would remove my "pre-peak" anxiety as I feel totally confident after I start peaking. If this isn't good then I'll just have a few etizolam pills in proximity when I take psychs.

I don't have any anxiety outside of taking drugs, no depression or anything and when I take drugs I don't have "panic attacks" so to say more like just feeling sick, heart rate increasing and feeling very nervous all of which subside after I start feeling the drug, anticipating whats going to happen seems to be my problem.

I often feel uneasy and maybe you could call it a bit anxious on the comeup on psychedelics. It's that feeling you have that something's happening, you're not sober but not tripping either. I don't like to wait for the effects to develop. That's why I usually snort psychedelics if it's possible to make the comeup faster. LSD is one of the worst ones regarding anxiety during the comeup since it's so slow compared to tryptamines. I feel very uneasy on acid until the effects have fully developed.

Anyway I suggest you keep the benzos as an emergency kit with you, and take them if you start feeling very anxious during the trip. But remember there are many ways to deal with unwanted feelings during a trip. Change music, move to another place, basically a change in the environment because often there is something in the new environment that grabs your attention and you forget the anxiety. Or you can do as me, face the fear and try to analyze what the source of it is. Unlike you I suffer from anxiety in every day life, and psychedelics have helped me understand that some of my fears are only thought patterns created by myself, and that the object of fear is not the source (e.g. if I'm at a business meeting I know it's not the meeting itself and the people there that induces strong anxiety, but my own interpretation of the situation). But this is quite deep introspective tripping that is not always enjoyable, however it is more rewarding for me than just tripping for fun. So you can actually try and face the anxiety, stare it in the face and ask yourself "why am I feeling this?" instead of trying to escape by taking benzos. Psychedelics open the door to your subconscious and can open ways for new thought patterns that you are unaware of in a sober state. In a sober state your mind filters away most of the things that are not necessary for you at the moment. Psychedelics remove this filter.

So you can choose to take benzos but they won't solve anything, most probably you have to take them on the next trip again?