T3 (Liothyrine Sodium) beginner dose?

We would need to know your stats before answering that. Things like age, gender, weight, diet, goals, other drugs, etc. And there is no need to taper your dose. Find your sweet spot and stick with it all the way through. You can run T3 for long periods of time without worrying about your thyroid. The whole "thyroid shock" is a proven myth and the pyramid cycle is outdated. Run a few searches on more recent protocols.



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If you have to ask, you don't need it.

I remember the thread you made about OTC fat burners. Yeah, you definitely don't need it.
 
Dieting is the easiest thing ever (for me). Eat very low/no carbs, good fats and high protein. Ride a bike. Lift. Drink water. Toy with carb timing. Find out what kind of body type you are and work with it. Don't be a sissy, eat tofu.
 
YES. I know diet etc... is needed. I have done that for 4 weeks. Dieting hard, exercising 3 hours a day, weights 1 hour a day. I just need to boost / speed up the process.

I may be new in this thread, but I'm no idiot...
 
Voxide said:
If you have to ask, you don't need it.

I remember the thread you made about OTC fat burners. Yeah, you definitely don't need it.
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the forum is here for people to ask these questions so why not give the guy a straight answer otherwise not reply? it's pretty simple really.

you've admitted publicly you can be abrasive so i'm going to ask you nicely to start toning it down a little and not say anything rather than these little digs:)

thanks.
 
leftwing said:
the forum is here for people to ask these questions so why not give the guy a straight answer otherwise not reply? it's pretty simple really.

you've admitted publicly you can be abrasive so i'm going to ask you nicely to start toning it down a little and not say anything rather than these little digs:)

thanks.
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Because he doesn't watch his diet whatsoever or take his routine seriously.


I'm being as "nice" and non-abrasive as I can here. I know what I'm talking about, thanks. Gear, thyroid hormones included, are not recreational drugs. There is no straight answer, because it's all dependent on your goals. If you eat like shit and train like a pansy, there is only one answer: No.

Post your diet and lifting credentials if you want help.

AyahuascaSeeker13 said:
Voxide why are you so angry and unhelpful. Every post i read from you is so negative! I hope all is Ok in your world. Thank you for the info Victor.
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Here's help: Watch your diet, stop being lazy, and quit your drug seeking behavior. You're excercising 3 hours a day. It's obvious you have no clue what you're doing,

Will give you better results than any amount of t3. All is very ok in my world, thank you for your concern. Just trying to kill some time on bluelight before I go tanning and do some conditioning work.
 
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While Voxide's posts (in this specific thread) may be abrasive I don't find them abusive. The forums aren't a place to confront someone over their posting style, that is why you have a private messaging system.

Please remember guys, when you post a thread asking questions about supplements/training/steroids, we do want you to post your stats. This helps the community best answer your questions. :)
 
The problem with this forum is that many people see steroids as something to try. Typically the bodybuilder/power lifter has much more drive and focus than the average joe. I totally understand Vox's attitude. People need to at least state what they're doing before going on about drugs because it makes guys with focus and drive angry. I know - I get angry all the time at normal people.

Three hours is way too long to be exercising. The thing with lifting/conditioning/doing things for appearance over performance is that more is not better. It's always quality over quantity otherwise everyone would look like their idols.
 
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auhsoJ said:
Typically the bodybuilder/power lifter has much more drive and focus, to look sexy, than the average joe.
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Fixed bro. No need to thank me.

T3 - 25mcg ED. No more than 4 week of usage. Suppression will be counter productive.

Max dosage not to Exceed 75mcg. Tried 100mcg once the night sweats and irritation I felt from that dosage was not worth it.

Remember that this is a mcg drug. Make sure to check the lot/stock number of the product you have. For example make sure the Merck 100 is really Merck. Counter fit products and none professional product with as little as a 10% error can be very dangerious.

Oh and there is an over all increase with respect to AR and protien systasis. Up take protien intake 10-20%.
 
auhsoJ said:
Three hours is way too long to be exercising. The thing with lifting/conditioning/doing things for appearance over performance is that more is not better. It's always quality over quantity otherwise everyone would look like their idols.
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i joined the gym for the first time ever yesterday and even i know that 30mins of correct exercise is far far more beneficial than an hour of sloppy exercise.
 
Start at 25umg take on an empty stomach in the morning then ramp up to 100umg. 6 weeks max cycle and don't listen to all the tappering down bullshit because it's not true. A friend was prescribed t3 to take at 50umg and a week later the doctor called him up saying he didn't actually need to take it and mistake was made so just to stop taking it with no tappering down no nothing. There you go from a doctor you don't need to tapper down. Would recommend taking some ephedrine or something for the next 2 weeks you come off because it takes about 2 weeks for your thyroid to start working again so you're metabolism will be mega slow in those 2 weeks and you'll put the weight back on if you're not careful!
 
Ive been using the drug for going on 12 yrs, in the 90's when it became more mainstream there was the ramping effect, of such a dose for 5 days, then 5 days at the next dose, and then level out for 2 weeks, and go back down again. This does nothing, and the rampoing effect is wasting the drug and your time, I had my blood work done before I started, and I ran 150mcg a day for 2 months, no tapering up or down. Sadly I cant get these tabs anymore as the source who carried them has long vanished, and mexico is a war zone< but when I had got my blood work done immediately after there were no changes. Is the drug catabolic, yes, but if you are looking to trulu cut fat down to less than 10% and you dont have the worlds best genetics you sometimes have to go beyond what others will do. I used high doses of GH, and test amongst other things to keep the catabolism to a minimum, and in reality when using that high a dose, you arent going for anything b ut pure fat loss because even using high amounts of this and that your caloric intake wont support muscle growth, and so on...if yuou have more questions feel free to ask
 
Starting as low as possible on T3 is usually the best way to go. I would start at 10mcg but spread the dose out as to not burn out your adrenal glands. I learned the hard way, I started at 25mcg, all at once, and it made me fatigued to the point of sleeping all day. Once I split the dosage into two, one dose at 9am and the other at 3pm, I wasn't as fatigued. It's best to take it on an empty stomach in order to increase the oral bio availability and ensure it gets absorbed into the bloodstream completely.

From their you can slowly work your way up 5mcg or 10mcg at a time to a dose that works for you. 50mcg works for me. I think anything over 100mcg is overkill. It's usually best to take T3 while you have a anabolic steroid in your system in order to preserve muscle or continue to make gains. T3 will not only burn fat, but it will burn muscle as well.

I don't take T3 the pill form, I prefer the liquid because it is cheaper and easier to customize the dose to suit ones needs.

I don't think you have to taper down as long as your dose isn't something insanely high and you watch your diet during the coming weeks. Your metabolism will be slower for a few weeks until your Thyroid stabilizes T3 levels in your body again naturally.

I think this compound is absolutely amazing for burning fat by itself and even more amazing when stacked with Clenbuterol. People shouldn't even consider using T3 until they are at least at a body fat of 10%, preferably lower.
 
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