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Synthetic tryptamines and Piracetam?

cipralex_vaisel

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So there's this girl.

She's been taking Piracetam for a few months now, found it to be highly enhancing/synergistic with LSD, P.Cubensis Mushrooms, Most 2C chemicals (I, B, E, C, P, T-2 principally) THC and MDMA. She also has experience with DXM and DMT yet has not tried these with Piracetam yet.

Recently had some 4-AcO-DiPT (19-21mg, scales slightly off by 1-2mg, was going for 20mg) and found it to be less WOW (less visuals, slower come-up, less "supreme alien clarity" in the headspace) than a dose at 15mg without Piracetam- both times this was with the Iprocin/Iprocetin (forgets which one is HO and which is AcO) salt. She found this irregular as it seems to be the exact opposite effect of Piracetam on other substances in her experience thus far- ie. faster come-up, insane overdriven visuals, etc

Can anyone give insight as to whether this is due to either:

1. The Piracetam- She has read some reports of individuals finding a huge non-synergy between racetams and DMT, and 4-AcO-DiPT being vaguely related to DMT (Knows it is a Psilocybin analogue but Psilocybin is pretty related to DMT chemically) might cause an issue? May be totally incorrect, but that is the purpose of this post, to obtain answers.

2. An irregular pattern of action/effectiveness of 4-AcO-DiPT- again, she's read reports suggesting sometimes trips may vary hugely in intensity from very similar (if not the same) dosages of this substance.

3. Something else???? *shrugs*

She is going to try 30mg 4-AcO-DiPT soon, so she feels it would be nice to know if Piracetam should be involved. Will also be trying 20mg 4-AcO-DiPT + (as yet undecided)mg 2C-T-2 (the dose will be on the low side for that one though, bit wary with 2C-Ts) soon.

Thoughts, opinions, criticisms, please.

(p.s. She also has some 4-AcO-MiPT which has not been dosed yet, any detail of this post which might carry across to that substance, would also be nice to know)

(ALSO- She is not a Cipralex user- that username is an obscure allusion/euphemism understood by her close friends.)
 
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Stop swimming before my head explodes.

Otherwise +1 to the fantastically named fastandbulbous.
 
Welcome to bluelight! :)

Sorry, can't help you though, AcO-DiPT is not one of my research objectives
nor have I combined piracetam with some other tryptamine...
I´d certainly mention this in the 4-AcO-DiPT Thread!

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I think I asked a valid question - why specifically synthetic tryptamines when they are no different in action to naturally prouced tryptamines?

Presumably because the subject experienced synergy between piracetam mushrooms (ie, a natural tryptamine)?
 
Is it possible the subject may have just dosed the 4-AcO-DiPT more than once that week, prior to attempting the 4-AcO-DiPT + Piracetam combo?

If this is the case, it is known that the 4-AcO and 4-HO series, develop tolerance in its users much quicker than normal. For example, if you've consumed 4-HO-DMT say on a Friday, attempted to give it a day break before trying again, skipping Saturday, then that following Sunday attempted to use the compound again. Chances are you will notice little to no effects, or effects that are substantially less than your previous trial with it (in this hypothetical situation Friday) - even though it will probably take 1.5-2 times the original dose from Friday to even feel little to nothing on Sunday.

The point being OP, if your friend has been experimenting with it more than once during any given week, then you got your answer.
 
I think I asked a valid question - why specifically synthetic tryptamines when they are no different in action to naturally prouced tryptamines?

generally, synthetic is a buzzword used by pharmacological dilettantes to sound knowledgeable - as in "the societal implications of individuals utilizing synthetic tryptamines are varied" i hear it misused constantly. in the same way i hear designer drug misused constantly (to be fair the exact definition of that one is debatable). but i can imagine that the OP did not intend to make a distinction (she did mention DMT/p. cubensis after all) but then again all drugs are synthetic - biosynthetic or otherwise...
 
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