Synthetic drug production thriving in Canada, Mounties say

I recently read a book called "MCMAFIA". It was about organized crime worldwide.

The book claims an amazingly large percentage of Canadians are involved in some aspect of illegal drug production and export to the USA. (The Canadian chapter is small compared to Russian / Chechneyan Mobsters).

It was a good book.
 
Snowbear said:
I recently read a book called "MCMAFIA". It was about organized crime worldwide.

The book claims an amazingly large percentage of Canadians are involved in some aspect of illegal drug production and export to the USA. (The Canadian chapter is small compared to Russian / Chechneyan Mobsters).

It was a good book.
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yeah I read a few hundred pages of that book when I was bored.

The relaxed attitude to weed is why there are so many Canadians involved in drug production. Its not a big deal for people to grow a plant in the garden or basement. Canadian cops rather bust murders, rapists and coke dealers, than people growing, smoking or selling herb. Although major herb/hash dealers are fair game (eg the 751KG hash bust out east)
 
uniter said:
As a proud Canadian I resent being called a "fucking frost-back", sounds rather derogatory. I'm not going to tar all Americans with the same brush because i have met many very cool Americans but you Dragynfyr sound like the stereotypical arrogant "God bless America, and no place else" type.

Quote: "keep your damn clandestine works seperate and stop putting meth into all your beans!"

Do you honestly think we Canadian bluelighters want meth in our beans? pfft, if it was up to us we'd buy it OTC at 120mg pharmaceutical grade MDMA per tablet. It's organized crime and archaic laws that are putting meth in our beans. Now, we all know that under the covers the American government tells the Canadian government what to make illegal and to start cracking down on labs. So to give you a taste of your own medicine;

fucking yankees... keep your hands out of other countries' business, it's your fault the drug supply is run by organised crime and we have meth in our beans!
(cool Americans please disregard that sentence)

Personally I've given up on pills, and I don't have access to crystal MDMA so I've switched to Methylone (bk-MDMA). Produced in a legal lab, assayed at 99.1% purity, calculated to be $3.50 for a 150mg hit. Next best thing to MDMA other than MDMA itself, very euphoric and empathic, maybe a little less speedy (which is great, i hate the edge).

So the days of E are done, it's time to move on. As long as research chems don't hit the streets they'll remain legal and pure, if your looking for a drug that induces a state of ecstasy you won't find it in street E, but you will find it in Methylone. I've read a report of someone who's first "E-like" experience was a hit of methylone and they had a ++++, great stuff.
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So not to paint everyone with the same brush, I'll assume all canadians arn't as uptight as you =p It was a joke man lol calm down, frostback, wet back, ha-ha-ha? 8) And I'm just gonna go out on a limb and guess you don't opperate a meth lab, so maybe you shouldn't take the comment directed at the lab staff so personally? Take some more quasi-E and calm down dude =p Way to start throwing stereotypes around though, I see that empathy is going a long way with you. I'm actually more like one of those selfhating americans.

And the way RCs like methylone become mainstream on the street and then quickly very illegal probably has a lot to do with people promoting it as a 'legal high' or that it's 'just as good' as something already illegal.... shhhhhhhh ;) Reviews like what you just wrote end up as evidence at committie meetings
 
I think the biggest problem in this equation is the organized crime factor, like previously mentioned the Biker Gangs oviously known to be connected to the Italian Mafia, or the biggest Mafia of all, the United States that has its own contracts with illegal dealers on the market like guns for drugs, (Celebreties need drugs, no? and in Toronto we need more guns b/c knife crimes are just too violent and up close). I know there are lots of gangs in my area, but mostly deal with Cocaine, Methamphetamine. Ecstacy is a strange request for these dealers, as is Ketamine, which you have to order days in advance to be sure they may get it. What I'm saying is that XTC and Ketamine are something are rare usually and pure MDMA/MDA is almost never found on the streets. Stupid fuckers have too much Methamphetamine apparently since all these E pills on the street are 85% pure methbombs.

Drugs will always be someplace people can buy them. The only thing I don't like about this whole thing is that you support violent gangs and violence in general.

I don't see nothing wrong with giving a morphine making chemist money to make pure mdma powder. Do you?
 
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BTW As far as organized crime goes here in the Toronto area it's mostly Asian people and Africans getting up to their fists in shit. As well keep in mind that the Asians and Blacks work together and chill together.

We stay chilled compared to these fuckers but even here with us when shit happens it happens, and it happens but not on the scale that the Asians and Blacks are doing it. We don't like those people, they got one of their streets right by an Eastern European street and always cause shit like robberies and having the police around all the time. They just run out of stores after stick ups and they being black and outside being night they just run into their friends lawns and chill in the front yard in a crowd of cocksuckers looking just like them so the police can't pick them out. These guys learned from past experiences not to fuck with Eastern Europeans but from past experiences they also learned how to hate us, so fuck them.

RO + C C C C = orthodox brothers
 
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brentxzi said:
MDMA COMES FROM CANADA TO MICHIGAN IN LARGE AMOUNTS 20,000 pills. It's Enough to make the whole board CUM>
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No wonder why E is so easy to come by in MI.
 
auto238367 said:
yeah I read a few hundred pages of that book when I was bored.

The relaxed attitude to weed is why there are so many Canadians involved in drug production. Its not a big deal for people to grow a plant in the garden or basement. Canadian cops rather bust murders, rapists and coke dealers, than people growing, smoking or selling herb. Although major herb/hash dealers are fair game (eg the 751KG hash bust out east)
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^ true, ive been caught with weed a few times, usually they just make you throw it out and step on it.
 
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^ true, ive been caught with weed a few times, usually they just make you throw it out and step on it.
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Even down in NY it's getting pretty chill on the weed depending on the cop you get. Some are still suffering from a severe case of Reefer Madness though and think your scum for smoking.. I've been stopped twice with small amounts of pot and accessories, and all they did was try to thouroughly scare the piss out of me, then took my pot and my bowl and sent me on my way lol

Sucked though, my dad gave me the one bowl!
 
Dragynfyr said:
fuckin frost backs... keep your damn clandestine works seperate and stop putting meth into all your beans! I'm gettin sick of this run off, damn speed pills keep trickling down here...

More labs get busted, and the pills keep getting more nasty...
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while i don't agree with your comments about Canadians, I do however agree with your statement about how 'your sick of meth in your xtc pills.' I've used xtc just a handful of times and the first and maybe 2nd time being the only times i actually got MDMA in my rolls lol after like 2006 its just been all meth pills being sold to kids as mdma... the last roll I ate had SOMETHING awful in it (not meth, not mdma, not anything good) it was a horrible experience and i think maybe it was one of those damn rolls with DXM in them, omg it was the last time i ever took E.... fuck stimulants anyways, weeds the only "drug" thats never let me down. =D
 
as for speed in pills you should get testers

for criminals, well crime does not pay

gangs of black/somalians/the likes

are scary

they rape the women

steal and beat for no reason

the biker gangs just dont want you on their territory
 
yeh, i imagine a lot of these "damn parasitic asians and africans" dont even want to be involved in those fucking drug labs and whatnot, it is just the industry they are employed in when they arrive in the glorious land of the free. i find that people especially canadians try to hype up how lawless or organized-crime-y canada is, overall it is incredibly tame compared to the US. also there arent even very many black people at all so the gangsta thing is just lame. i hate wiggers and people who try to be street. if you really knew the street you'd be pissing blood in the gutter and begging for a boring middle-class life.

canada is turning into america, and i blame you. that's right, YOU. fucking bastards!

and yeh, it sounds like a tv comedy show, but yes, there are tons of bikers in canada. hell's angels are huge in montreal and eastern canada. actually i think montreal is their "hq". but it is wild and unpopulated here in eastern canada that there is no need for "turf wars" or other such gangster-nonsense. we just grow it in the fields and forests and if the police find it in their little helicopters, they just burn it down and cant do shit.

i just get annoyed with all this hype-talk about dangerous urban this, urban that, street blah, im an idiot, etc. etc. if you want to be "real" then go to afghanistan and get shot by someone who's consumed as many resources in their entire life as you shat out this morning.
 
i live in vancouver bc (from toronto) and i will tell everyone that this is right on the money. mdma and meth is fucking everywhere here. it's not my scene but i see it all the time and i know you can by the stuff for next to nothing.
 
thankfully in the UK purest molly is easy to get.
Easier to get than pills (but i dont know many people who do pills, far too unreliable and unpredictable).

but yeah the RC contacts i have are all in either UK, NL, Central Europe or Canada.
most refuse to ship to the USA.
US laws make it way too risky to import/export, even if it is "legal"....

of course there's "those" Chinese chemists but Chinese business is a different animal.
 
Both here (Amerika) and there, bikers gangs have the same stranglehold on the meth trade as they did back when, when it started. A lot of other organized crime groups (Asian and black gangs, the mafia,etc.) get a lot more publicity on a regular day, because they operate on a larger scale and in a more conspicuous manner. Anybody with any experience in the area will tell you though, its a tough sell trying to make anybody look more raw and fucked up than the 1%'ers when you cross them. Just plain brutal and violent

p.s...whoever posten about McMafia , pretty outstanding book, among others..
 
I like how people blame and attack each others nations, as if a piece of geography has the ability to make decisions and corrupt people, when really it just comes down to people wanting to make money and get high. But I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with people who scapegoat anyways.

William1985, I have yet to even see an E pill, though lots of good weed for cheap and good coke too (some of us can show love for "hard" drugs). Maybe I'll be lucky enough to find some one day.
 
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