Synthetic drug production thriving in Canada, Mounties say

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QUEBEC - Canada is one of the world's largest producers of synthetic drugs such as ecstasy and crystal meth, the RCMP said Wednesday, warning that large-scale clandestine laboratories are thriving in the country.

Since the beginning of the year, the RCMP has dismantled 37 clandestine labs with industrial production capacity. Most of them were located in British Columbia (24), followed by Quebec (7) and Ontario (6).

"It's the first time we dismantle so many big labs in such a short period of time," said RCMP Cpl. Raymond Martel.

"This is a serious threat in Canada, it's our national priority," he added.

Martel was delivering a presentation Wednesday in Quebec City to representatives from Canadian pharmaceutical and chemical producers and distributors.

The RCMP wants to raise their awareness of the growing diversion of legal chemical substances to make illegal substances.

Organized crime groups are moving into the production of synthetic drugs because many of the products needed to produce those drugs - called precursor chemicals - can easily be imported, and often legally, to Canada.

Before 2003, no precursor chemicals were banned in Canada, making the country a haven for drug traffickers to bring in their product, Martel said.

"That lack of regulation led the organized crime to flourish in Canada," said Martel, who works for the chemical diversion program of the RCMP.

He said several organized crime groups are taking profit of this illicit trade, such as Asian organizations, bikers, the Russian mafia and Indo-Canadian crime groups.

In 2003 several precursor chemicals used to make methamphetamine and ecstasy were banned or regulated, but others still have no restrictions on their importation.

"That law has helped us," Martel stressed.

He said brokers in China and India are the biggest exporters of precursor chemicals to Canada. The chemicals are transformed into synthetic drugs in clandestine labs in Canada and exported to several countries.

Martel said drug traffickers are going global because the profit margin of selling precursor chemical on the black market is very high. For instance 25 kilograms of ephedrine - used to manufacture a variety of synthetic drugs - can be bought for $2,500 to $5,000. One kilogram of ephedrine can be resold on the black market between $1,000 and $3,000.

Martel also said that organized groups operating in Canada are pressuring pharmaceutical and chemical companies to sell them in bulk the key ingredients to create synthetic drugs.

"They put large sums of money on the table and they say 'we need this chemical.' That puts incredible pressure on companies," Martel said, adding that this type of practice is becoming more and more common.

Police forces are looking to work closer with companies to help to flag suspicious transactions or buyers.

"Many of them are already working with us, but we want to improve our collaboration," said Marc Butz of the Quebec provincial police.

Martel said companies have to be extremely vigilant because their chemicals can sometimes go through several legitimate middlemen before ending up in criminal hands or being sold illegally on the Internet to U.S. customers.

Representatives of pharmaceutical companies attending the conference declined to comment on the issue.

Martel also warned of the potentially devastating impacts of clandestine labs often located in quiet residential neighbourhoods. He said he recently took part in the dismantling of a lab packed with toxic chemicals located only a few blocks away from a daycare facility in Quebec. Martel refused to give more details about the case because it is still being investigated.

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Synthetic drug production thriving in Canada, Mounties say

Marianne White
Canwest News Service

Wednesday, October 29, 2008

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=0920b3fc-d961-4f7c-8c03-dca74d3d5c48
 
E-llusion said:
QUEBEC - Canada is one of the world's largest producers of synthetic drugs such as ecstasy and crystal meth, the RCMP said Wednesday, warning that large-scale clandestine laboratories are thriving in the country.

Since the beginning of the year, the RCMP has dismantled 37 clandestine labs with industrial production capacity. Most of them were located in British Columbia (24), followed by Quebec (7) and Ontario (6).

"It's the first time we dismantle so many big labs in such a short period of time," said RCMP Cpl. Raymond Martel.

Before 2003, no precursor chemicals were banned in Canada, making the country a haven for drug traffickers to bring in their product, Martel said.

"That law has helped us," Martel stressed.

Anyone see how this is a bit contradictory? They say that Canada is one of the largest producers of synthetic drugs and it is a flourishing business and that they have had a record amount of lab busts in such a short period of time, yet the banning of precursor chemicals has helped them. How is that so?
 
not to name any sources, but when I was still getting 2c-i, it was from canada, so I can easily believe this stuff.

He said several organized crime groups are taking profit of this illicit trade, such as Asian organizations, bikers, the Russian mafia and Indo-Canadian crime groups.

are bikers really still an issue or is this 60's paranoid hangover?
 
^^^ are you serious?!!! the hells angels and bandidos and a bunch of other 1% motorcycle clubs are huge in canada. they deal huge amounts of drugs and kill each other. innocent bystanders are killed all the time. biker gangs are one of the top crime threats there
 
SERIOUSLY... fucking NAU.... i hope to GOD that never happens....

america needs to say out of other countries business. if they have drug problems, isnt that THEIR problem? do they really need Team America, World Police to come to the rescue?
 
Just anyone can legally buy kilo powders of ephedrine there? That is insane. I guess I have been living in the show-your-id for 2 grams of pseudophede days for a while now.
 
rincewindrocks said:
not to name any sources, but when I was still getting 2c-i, it was from canada, so I can easily believe this stuff.



are bikers really still an issue or is this 60's paranoid hangover?

YEah Im located in Canada, and I get 2c-i and shit here easy. I order it off the net. Im waiting on some 2c-e and 2c-t-7.
 
thank you canada for the mdma.

Its just sad that we're trading guns and coke (the USA's problems) for great bud and X
 
drunken_etard said:
YEah Im located in Canada, and I get 2c-i and shit here easy. I order it off the net. Im waiting on some 2c-e and 2c-t-7.

What?! Why am I not living in Canada?!!
 
fuckin frost backs... keep your damn clandestine works seperate and stop putting meth into all your beans! I'm gettin sick of this run off, damn speed pills keep trickling down here...

More labs get busted, and the pills keep getting more nasty...
 
As a proud Canadian I resent being called a "fucking frost-back", sounds rather derogatory. I'm not going to tar all Americans with the same brush because i have met many very cool Americans but you Dragynfyr sound like the stereotypical arrogant "God bless America, and no place else" type.

Quote: "keep your damn clandestine works seperate and stop putting meth into all your beans!"

Do you honestly think we Canadian bluelighters want meth in our beans? pfft, if it was up to us we'd buy it OTC at 120mg pharmaceutical grade MDMA per tablet. It's organized crime and archaic laws that are putting meth in our beans. Now, we all know that under the covers the American government tells the Canadian government what to make illegal and to start cracking down on labs. So to give you a taste of your own medicine;

fucking yankees... keep your hands out of other countries' business, it's your fault the drug supply is run by organised crime and we have meth in our beans!
(cool Americans please disregard that sentence)

Personally I've given up on pills, and I don't have access to crystal MDMA so I've switched to Methylone (bk-MDMA). Produced in a legal lab, assayed at 99.1% purity, calculated to be $3.50 for a 150mg hit. Next best thing to MDMA other than MDMA itself, very euphoric and empathic, maybe a little less speedy (which is great, i hate the edge).

So the days of E are done, it's time to move on. As long as research chems don't hit the streets they'll remain legal and pure, if your looking for a drug that induces a state of ecstasy you won't find it in street E, but you will find it in Methylone. I've read a report of someone who's first "E-like" experience was a hit of methylone and they had a ++++, great stuff.
 
well this is kinda tru, enough mdma comes round here. i live in canda and it is really easy to get RC chemz here. Trust me the mounties r soft they know about alot but dont do much. meth iunno about dat dun mess wit it but a few people have offered it to me, so must be somewhat common.
Lastly the bikers styll run shit serious here, i used to live not that far from da hells angles clubhouse in T.O
 
MDMA COMES FROM CANADA TO MICHIGAN IN LARGE AMOUNTS 20,000 pills. It's Enough to make the whole board CUM>
 
it's unsubstantiated gossip anyway. i have noticed chems getting more and more pure though lately. seen more hell's angels jackets around too... hmm...

from what i've seen, bikers mostly control the market between ottawa and the east coast while asians are the ones doing business in the toronto area and out west. it's organized crime, basically. so they pretty much have the resources to subvert whatever barriers the law sets in the way.

funny how they mention a lab packed with "toxic chemicals" being dismanted "only blocks away from a day care facility"

uh, ONLY!? i'm not sure where the hell that reporter must come from but a coupla blocks in all the towns and cities i've ever lived in is far enough to be safe from even most nerve agents
 
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