Synchronicities and Cosmic Connections

[rave_itsrealfun!!!]

First off, I made this thread without noticing that 6 fucking threads down there was a thread entitled "synchronicity." Someone replied letting me know so I deleted it, but when I checked out the other thread it was closed, and someone said that if you felt like talking about them further to start a new thread. I see this as a synchronicity! So I made the thread again... may as well keep the topic open as I check out the other pages.

These happen to me all the time. This term was coined by Carl Jung, but I first heard of it from Robert Anton Wilson. Essentially I see a synchronicity as a coincidence that is too meaningful, and too ridiculously trippy that is has to be explained by some sort of cosmic connection with the universe. Especially when they happen so frequently.

For example, I had my friend's contact number saved in my phone, but I had one digit wrong by accident. I was thinking about giving him an update on a health problem of mine, since I had some important news and a couple weeks ago he was asking me about it, genuinely concerned. I texted the wrong number, to some random person since I had his number saved wrong in my phone, giving a detailed update. Simultaneously, my friend texted me for the correct number saying "yo man did you hear back from the doctor yet?" Keep in mind we only text each other every few weeks. At first I was confused, and I was like yo I just texted you? Then I checked the number I sent the first message to and it was wrong and I was just like WTF. I copy pasted the text to his actual number and then we just started talking about how trippy this shit was and how we are on the same frequency.

Another example, I text my girlfriend some other significant news that I was really excited about. She calls me from her work number literally 20 seconds later, but doesn't mention anything about the news and then she says that she forgot her cell phone at home. She never got my news, and therefore had no reason to call me. This shit happens way too often, there are mysterious forces at play in this universe!

Does anyone have any trippy stories to share? Of course this isn't limited to text messaging. Not to mention that I used to see ghosts or spirits roaming my realm when I was a child... but I don't see them anymore. I'm fairly convinced that there is another plane of existence in this spacetime, where a different type of conscious being resides - they appeared to me as "ethereal" would be the best description... like they were there and I could see them visually but not in the same frequency, not with colours. I never saw them as threatening and as a child just kind of accepted them, and never brought it up to anyone even though I saw them roaming around whenever I was laying in bed at night. I remember acutely paying attention to them though, watching them with curiosity. I'm really just interested in hearing about trippy coincidences and stuff like that, not necessarily related to drugs.

However I will add that after taking a small bump of very high quality heroin, this type of trippy stuff is more likely to happen than when I am sober. It seems to be correlated with how consciously aware I am, how in the moment I am, and my present emotional state. Also, if you have experienced any synchronicities between waking life and the dream world I'm really interested in analyzing the flip side as well.

Edit: Just noticed this post from the other thread:
"though that is not nessicarily true man, i think some evil things can influence it too, as when i was deciding to try heroin for the first time, i had so many synchronicities it was ridiculous, all throughout the day. "

 

[MyDoorsAreOpen]

First of all, welcome.

Please understand that the last thread about synchronicity was shut down for a reason. Synchronicity seems to be something of a hot topic these days around here. Which is fine. But there's a problem that keeps coming up with this topic, which I don't care to see repeated here. Either this is a chance to share stories and for all people to refrain from judgement; as they say in the twelve step programs, "thanks for sharing". OR this is a place to logically examine, and philosophically put on trial, the concept of synchronicity. But it is not both. Because when a crowd gathers that's confused or divided as to which of these two objectives it is, the conversation produces very little of value, and devolves quickly into a flamewar, which is no fun to read, and I imagine is even less fun to participate in.

So OP, as starter of this thread, just so we all can be perfectly clear, please set the mood: what is your goal in talking about this topic?

 

[rave_itsrealfun!!!]

Thank you. My goal is that it has been happening to me a lot lately, and I am trying to figure out what it means. I feel the need to discuss it at least.

I noticed that some people in the other thread seemed to be seeking out synchronicity, and looking for meaning (like in numbers and stuff). I am more interested in the random, surprising type of experience that isn't looked for and almost gives a feeling of deja vu, that is so shocking that it seems not possible. The type of experience that causes me grin in awe at the mystical powers of the cosmos.

I've defined the type of trippy experiences that have been going on fairly well. I don't think story sharing would be all that useful - I know I'm not the only one who experiences stuff like this. I'm more interested in how the hell this can happen to begin with - because I am convinced that there is a higher power, some sort of cosmic force at play in my life - more active these days possibly than ever before. So the latter of your topics makes more sense to me.

I don't really discuss this kind of stuff too much with people in my everyday life, and I expect to catch some insight from the consciousness exploring folk around here.

 

[ForEverAfter]

Yesterday 3 related events occurred that seemed to defy statistical probability.

1. I was watching the second part of a documentary by Stephen Fry about the homophobia around the world on the BBC, called "Out There." There was a scene in the film, shot during a Brazilian gay pride parade, where Fry broke into tears... It frustrated me. I couldn't understand it. A man that I respect, highly-educated and talented, surrounded by grown (muscle-bound) men covered in glitter, wearing sparkling g-strings, gyrating their hips on a public street... There wasn't anything (that I could perceive) particularly emotional about the scene, and - I guess - I don't really "approve" of gay pride parades.. I'm not saying that gay people shouldn't be proud.. I'm bisexual and I've had many same-sex encounters.. I also experienced a fair amount of hatred and bigotry because of my sexuality, yet the idea of parading down a street in a g-string seems bizarre.

Anyway, I'm getting slightly off track.

2. I was having an argument with my girlfriend about unrelated matters, when I opened my laptop and - in an effort to distract myself - I opened up news.com.au and came across this article: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...-proud-to-be-gay/story-fnq2o7dd-1227252721752... This struck me as an odd co-incidence, since I've never visited the website before and the article (on the front page) directly pertained to the discussion I was just having... I wrote it off as just that, an odd co-incidence..

It was the 3rd event that made me question what I was experiencing.

3. Shortly after reading the article, I went to the supermarket with my girlfriend to get some ingredients for dinner. At the checkout, the guy in front of us was having a conversation with the cashier about gay pride parades... Instantly I thought of the synchronicity thread that was shut down... Did this all happen to prove to me that some things are beyond co-incidence? I wondered... Then, as it was our turn to be served, it all came into focus... The guy serving us said (about the last customer) "I'm so glad somebody noticed my badges!" (On his shirt were two gay pride badges.) He then proceeded to tell us that he was a raging homosexual, but he didn't know what that meant. I said, "Yeah, is there a Richter scale for gay?" to which he appeared to take some offence... Apparently I need to walk on egg-shells when conversing with people of a particular sexual orientation even if they bring up the topic inappropriately at a workplace... Anyway, we continued to talk as he scanned his items... And, finally, I realized the thing that tied all these events together. It was the annual Sydney Mardi Gras, last night.

1. The Stephen Fry documentary was a re-run, broadcast to specifically coincide with this event.
2. The article was published, also, specifically to coincide with this event.
3. The guy at the supermarket was excited about the event.

I realized that these events were statistically likely and there was a perfectly rational explanation for what I had, initially, perceived as "synchronicity".

Note: I'm aware that the co-incidences I'm referring to don't fit into the Jungian definition... It just made me think of the idea of unexplained co-incidences and, generally, about the discussion on Bluelight...

Note(2): The series of events lead me to think about pride parades and conclude that, perhaps, some people have more issues with their sexuality than I do... and they "need" to parade around wearing practically nothing, covered in glitter, in order to feel like they belong... Although, personally, I think if I was gay (rather than bisexual) I would have the attitude of the guy in the article above... I suspect that these parades are, largely, just an excuse to be gratuitously sexual in public.. which I'm still not convinced is entirely appropriate.. sort of like how it was inappropriate for the guy serving us at the supermarket to refer to himself (without any prompting) as a raging homosexual...

 

[swilow]

^A good read there. Took me on a journey through incredulity to resolution. As always, you entertain and educaaet

For example, I had my friend's contact number saved in my phone, but I had one digit wrong by accident. I was thinking about giving him an update on a health problem of mine, since I had some important news and a couple weeks ago he was asking me about it, genuinely concerned. I texted the wrong number, to some random person since I had his number saved wrong in my phone, giving a detailed update. Simultaneously, my friend texted me for the correct number saying "yo man did you hear back from the doctor yet?" Keep in mind we only text each other every few weeks. At first I was confused, and I was like yo I just texted you? Then I checked the number I sent the first message to and it was wrong and I was just like WTF. I copy pasted the text to his actual number and then we just started talking about how trippy this shit was and how we are on the same frequency.

Another example, I text my girlfriend some other significant news that I was really excited about. She calls me from her work number literally 20 seconds later, but doesn't mention anything about the news and then she says that she forgot her cell phone at home. She never got my news, and therefore had no reason to call me. This shit happens way too often, there are mysterious forces at play in this universe!

Does anyone have any trippy stories to share? Of course this isn't limited to text messaging.

Hey dude I am sceptical of synchronicity, thhough I have experienced it myself. So, of the bat, I'm going to provide some possible explanation. The thing here is: you, and your friend, who are close and who has expressed concern about your health, decided to enquire about it you. This need not be seen as mystical, because a) you and your friend are on the "same wavelength", b) he had previously expressed concern for your health, had historically enquired about it and c) you, as a close friend of his and to reciprocate his concern, decided to contact him also to inform him as you evidently done so in the past. The only odd thing here is that your communication coincided. The actual content of the enquiry is a shared concern of the both of you. Not trying to debase this or anything but just pointing out that your situation contains may elements that are explainable. This is the same thing with your girlfriend; you guys are obviously close and think of each other often, so communicating simulataneously is inevitable. It sounds like this has only happned once, which makes it statistically unimportant.

Please, I hope I am not coming across agressively or meanly- I am interested in this topic too

Please understand that the last thread about synchronicity was shut down for a reason

The last thread didn't seem to contain much hostility or flaming, but just a fair bit of disagreement. But I get why it was closed, as it was just spiralling into repetition.

Hey by the way, good to see you

I noticed that some people in the other thread seemed to be seeking out synchronicity, and looking for meaning (like in numbers and stuff). I am more interested in the random, surprising type of experience that isn't looked for and almost gives a feeling of deja vu, that is so shocking that it seems not possible.

That too is what I am interested in. Numerical patterns, coinciding events, etc. are not that profound.

A synchronous event for me was the first time I tried DMT. I had been quietly researching it without talking about it with my friends, when I bumped into a guy at a train station I'd gone to school with but was never close to and who'd been living in the UK, who straight up gave me a DMT/passionaflower blend that he made for me to try. I found that very strange, but ultimately meaningless. I'm grateful, and I smile at the strangeness of the godfather of synchroncity, DMT, entering my lifee in a synnchroncitious manner. (exicsue the spelling, I am recovering from an accidental benzo/GHB overdose ... )

 

[rave_itsrealfun!!!]

Interesting read. I agree with your interpretation of parades and 'pride' in general.

There's also the whole situation of randomly bumping into people you know in strange circumstances. An example I can think of is that when I'm in withdrawal the universe sometimes finds a way to test me. I was extremely addicted to weed to the extent that I had to leave society in order to stop myself from smoking it, so that I was living at a cabin in the woods away from everyone and I had to stay there 6 months before I stopped having obsessive/compulsive cravings to smoke more weed and felt safe to reintegrate. I ended up relapsing after that, but have been 'clean' for 2 years now after seeking professional help. In the early stages of the miserable withdrawal, I came across a man in the woods smoking a joint when I was out for a walk, and he offered me a smoke (which I refused). I was also tripping at the time. I found meaning in this, whether it was real or contrived, it was still very meaningful to me since the entire goal of my life at the time was to just get through each day without smoking any dope. I tried to escape the temptation to smoke it by going to the most remote place I had access to, since I knew that no matter how strong my will power was there was no stopping my body from smoking it if it was around - and of course weed is everywhere, but this place is very remote, I have spent hundreds of hours of my life there and not once encountered anyone smoking weed. My family was bringing me up groceries ever few weeks, I hadn't seen anyone whatsoever in weeks and the one person I see is smoking a damned joint.

Yeah, the content of the events wasn't strange at all. Perfectly normal social interactions. What is strange is the short time interval between events. There are 86,400 seconds in a day. I don't text message very often or even daily.

It's possible that it was just a coincidence, but after not contacting this person in over one million seconds, we essentially communicated to each other about the same topic within a few seconds, my attempt to contact him being sent to a random person by accident. Essentially I sent him the answer (to the wrong person) before he even posed the question. If you had read the two texts, one could easily be seen as a clear response to the other. What is the probablity of that happening? Extremely low. It's not the only thing we talk about by any means and usually not a conversation-starter. To have this type of "communciation connection" with someone almost feels like some sort of telepathy to me. I think it's certainly possible for people's minds to be connected on some higher plane, and that this could be explained by physics somehow. Quantum mechanics is pretty trippy stuff and nobody really understands the implications of it yet. Very little is known about the brain. Perhaps peoples brains can become entangled in some way in that the state of one will instantaneously affect the state of the other, occasionally arising in strange coincidences. I had also recently taken a bump of heroin before this happened so maybe being high affects the quantum probabilities. Of course this is all speculation but I think it's hard to prove this kind of thing, it's a personal intuition.

Of course there is also the possibility that I'm just high as a kite in each of these cases and tripping out about stuff.

 

[Ninae]

yet the idea of parading down a street in a g-string seems bizarre.

I think you have missed your calling there.

 

[ForEverAfter]

Well, my ass is fantastic.

 

[kaya_9]

You realize you're living in a dream of Existence Itself, and life for a moment becomes something that is shaped just the way it should be... little akin of deja vu, but so much more. It's specifically aimed at you, from a higher order. Click! This is how I feel when I experience them. Hopefully it's ok to express that here, in this thread. It's only a description of what it's feels like to have one, not a story.

 

[ForEverAfter]

It's kind of the opposite of "depressive synchronicity", then?
(When a series of situations occur that convince you of the pointlessness of life and your disconnection to the world?)

...

I don't know, I kind of feel like what you are describing is a series of "happiness triggers" that (by banding together) manage to break through depression and remind people that - although they are statistically insignificant - they are part of a big beautiful "system" (call it God, call it the universe, whatever) and are - therefore - as significant and insignificant as everything else... Maybe I'm reading it wrong, though. I don't know...

It seems to me that events can be synchronized to push people in either direction. Can't they?
Is synchronicity always happy / good / uplifting / whatever?
If so, what's the word for the opposite?

 

[Ninae]

Well, my ass is fantastic.

I think part of what attracted my parents to each other was that they both had ideal bodies. Or, all their body parts were perfect, my dad in a masculine way and my mother in a feminine way. It's funny how that works.

Although I take more after my dad so I'm quite large and muscular. Some guys are even skinnier than me but then they're really puny. Although I stopped growing at 5'7 so I'm not really a giant, though some guys don't like any muscle mass on women.

But my dad is 6ft on the dot and there's nothing about his physique that's not perfect or idealised. At first I was confused when I saw how men could be built, for some reason they don't all come in cookie-cutter shapes, it seems more an anomaly. It's a strange world, but sadly I have no plans to carry on those genes, just think of the boys I could make (but I'm not squeezing them out).

Genes work in a strange way aswell. Like, my grandfather was little and fat and had none of my dad's body type. But my grandmother was built like me with the same height. Then my dad inherited that body type along with a shitload of testosterone so it turned into something else.

And then my uncle was given a real overdose of testosterone and literally became a giant. But it's still the same body or we all have the same genetic blueprint. It's just a bit more suitable to a masculine form only (although strong pecs translates to strong breasts or vice versa - and ideal pecs also fascinate me) but I already made a whole thread about this pertinent issue.

 

[-=SS=-]

Synchronicity is one of those concepts that has lost it's core component, diluted by many people claiming and proclaiming about it. It's not about numbers or any of that shit, all of that is just seeing patterns and finding coincidence in events or items that don't really mean anything at all, and it's not a gateway to sanity that's all I'll say on that.

Real synchronicity is what has been hinted at in here, the idea that there is some force or perhaps sympathetic intelligences to the human cause, or both, that want to see some kind of elevation of our current awareness and evolutionary potential. Someone else mentioned finding NN-DMT.. I had a similar experience where my friend and I became interested in it, really interested, and it just happened to drop into our laps. The DMT changed my perspective on life/death forever.

Also as mentioned, it works the other way, in that there are intelligences that couldn't give a fuck about you or the human race and function as parasites, just as we see in the biological kingdom. I think it's easier to perceive these types especially when it concerns the use of substances.. I mean, haven't you ever wondered why you're really drawn to these things that do nothing for you except deplete your physical and mental vitality? Do you really want to throw your potential away in exchange for temporary highs? Deep down no one does, they know it's irrational behavior, but they still do it. Why.

I think synchronicity could be redefined somewhat to 'the intuitive perception of ethereal forces conspiring to promote human action'.

 

[ForEverAfter]

I mean, haven't you ever wondered why you're really drawn to these things that do nothing for you except deplete your physical and mental vitality? Do you really want to throw your potential away in exchange for temporary highs? Deep down no one does, they know it's irrational behavior, but they still do it. Why.

Maybe because everything is meaningless and that is something that people struggle with, motivation wise?

 

[-=SS=-]

Maybe because everything is meaningless and that is something that people struggle with, motivation wise?

This is true, don't disagree with that at all. I think I should have rephrased what I said to 'why are people drawn back to a substance/engage new ones'.. addiction basically. I firmly believe the psychological component of addiction can involve outside influences (from personal experience, and from observing others).

 

[ForEverAfter]

And, by outside influences, you mean a supernatural (or other worldly) force / intelligence?

 

[-=SS=-]

And, by outside influences, you mean a supernatural (or other worldly) force / intelligence?

Yes. I think our minds are a part of/interface with another dimension which has its own fauna and flora.

 

[swilow]

^This 'fauna and flora' is responsible/culpable/involved in our addictions?

I'm not getting it, but I am exceptionally fucking simple minded today....

 

[Ninae]

^This 'fauna and flora' is responsible/culpable/involved in our addictions?

I suspect that part of this "fauna" is the low-level negative/dark spirits, demons, etc. that are often reported to hang around drug-abusers, both as a way to take part in their high (when a person passes out from drugs a demon will enter his body to enjoy the high while he's out is one thing I remember reading) and on the other hand to torture them and feed off their negative emotions when they're in withdrawal as they sustain themselves on dark or negative energy.

So it can be a double-edged sword, or you can nourish them both by your negative emotions and general negativity in the way you live your life, and provide an escape route for them when under the influence as they have no other way to escape their hell than attach themselves to human bodies and live through them. Like how Manly P. Hall describes the low spirits who hang around opium dens, etc. And, like I've mentioned before, I was once told I had over 500 dark spirits living in my energy field (have no way of knowing if that was true).

They're also said to be especially attracted to those who harbour both a lot of light and a lot of darkness within them as they need their light for life and to survive, as they have no way of generating their own, but also feed off dark energy as they're dark or low-consciousness beings.

 

[Ninae]

Sounds like sunbeams and sunshine I know.

A spiritual or higher-consciousness drug-addict seems perfect.

Might as well be holding up a sign that says "Welcome everyone - some for all".

 

[ForEverAfter]

For what it's worth: I think it's counter-productive to attribute addiction to these vague forces, like it was counter-productive for medical practitioners to attempt to exorcise the demons of cancer patients...

(There are real-world reasons that we become addicts, in other words... and believing that there aren't prevents us from treating them.)