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switched from 75 fentanyl to 15 ms contin

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Can any one tell me a little about ms contin? I went from 75 fentanyl to 15 ms contin and it has me in withdrawal as if ms contin were water. Anyone ever done this switch? How many 15 mg ms contin would it take to help with the withdrawal?
My army doc switched me from 75 fentanyl to 15 ms contin. After talking on the phone he upped it to 3 of the 15 ms contin. It is like water and left me in serious withdrawal. I wonder how many ms contin I could take to ease the withdrawal. This sucks, any help, any advice? I have a bottle of 15 mg ms contin and some 5 vicodin. Any advice? Please, someone talk to me
I have a bottle of ms contin...to replace fentanyl 75. Is ms any good for anything? At the dose the veterans hospital gave me it is like water. Take three was their advice...3 to replace fentanyl 75. By now I think the whole bottle all at once wouldn't help. Has anyone ever taken ms contin, and how many with what result?
 
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I did this to myself. My army doc was set to give me fentanyl 75 every 48 hours and I asked to be switched to pills...ta da! I was so stupid I thought the pills would work as good as fentanyl. Not only did it leave me in pain, it left me in withdrawal too. How can doctors not know that will happen? As far as I can tell me contin does not work at all, not even as well as a 5 vicodin. How can doctors do stuff like that without a worry? Oh wait...I know...pain is nothing to worry about as long as the pain belongs to someone else. Just like the difference between major and minor surgery...minor surgery is surgery done to someone else.
I called and asked if I could go back on the fentanyl but all I got was I will need to make an appointment. Well, those of us who get medical through the military or veterans hospitals have to wait months for an emergency appointment. Any advice? How many 15 ms contin would it take to ease the fentanyl withdrawal?
 
In going to move this over to Basic Drug Discussion as I feel you'll get more responses over there :)
 
I hate withdrawal. I have thought about hanging myself just to dodge it. I bet a lot of addicts deaths are just that. Jeez I can't endure it. Although it does seem to come in waves...sort of moments of intense withdrawal then ease up a bit for a bit. I don't know, I just can't stand it ..and I know it will get worse, this is just the first few hours.
 
Not surprised that is a serious miscalculation of dose on your doctors part

Tell him of his mistake
 
Where is basic drug discussion found? Forums? Blogs? Am I just being a bother and you would like me to go away?
 
PillToChill said:
Don't triple post.
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Merged the three threads into one.

SSGWAR said:
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I have a bottle of ms contin...to replace fentanyl 75. Is ms any good for anything? At the dose the veterans hospital gave me it is like water. Take three was their advice...3 to replace fentanyl 75. By now I think the whole bottle all at once wouldn't help. Has anyone ever taken ms contin, and how many with what result?
 
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Ya its good for pain relief. But your tolerance is too high. The doctor did a poor job in his conversion of you to a different opiate painkiller.

check out this calculator and type in 15 mg morphine oral, it calculates the equivalent dose to 5.9 mcg/hr of fentanyl. So the dose conversion was clearly a huge drop for you and a huge error on the doctor's part.
 
Is there any way to reduce the withdrawal of fentanyl? I would sit in a corner and chant if I thought it would help.
 
RTrain said:
Ya its good for pain relief. But your tolerance is too high. The doctor did a poor job in his conversion of you to a different opiate painkiller.

check out this calculator and type in 15 mg morphine oral, it calculates the equivalent dose to 5.9 mcg/hr of fentanyl. So the dose conversion was clearly a huge drop for you and a huge error on the doctor's part.
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Oops, forgot the link, here it is: http://www.globalrph.com/fentconv.htm

Guess the doctor isn't to up to date on tools like this.

Also I typo'd. A 15 mg morphine oral tablet gives comparable analgesia to 3.9 mcg/hour fent patch. That is such a huge decrease in pain relief dose that it will barely take the edge off the physical withdrawals you will be feeling. I am sorry but that doctor is a moron, plain and simple. He is putting you through unnecessary physical and mental pain with his error and it could be detrimental to your health if you have an underlying medical condition.
 
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Don't know if anyone can help...I have managed to get through the worst of the withdrawal. Now I feel no energy and a fair amount of pain. I can suck it up on the pain. I no longer am having mega sneeze attacks, runny eyes and nose, and that truly creepy feeling of coming out of my skin, vibration, icky wrongness words can hardly express is all pretty much gone. So why am I so out of energy, so emotional, so lacking in human happiness

Will there ever come a day when I wake happy to be alive? There was a time I was like that. I see people every where that clearly are able to get up in the early morning, and go about their day with a bit of energy and happiness. People even way older and way more frail than me. I want to be like those people.

My great Dane is my best friend. When I was into drug abuse it seemed I had such energy to walk with her...now she is lucky I hold the end of a sixty foot leash and feebly mumble "go poo". I wonder if energy and happiness will return. I recall when I was abusing my drugs that I often thought I was not high, but more as if that enormous amount just kept me in the normal ho hum zone, and when I ran out I would fall from the normal ho hum zone to a pathetic shade of human. This I think is the most far I have managed to quit...but will I ever once again be the man my dog thinks I am?... right this moment we (my great Dane and I) are laying in bed at 4 pm...I can't sleep, almost seem to have lost that ability. I have been told I am over withdrawal, and now into the PAWS withdrawal. Oh joy. A name for this stage of no energy no happy. Will I ever become a functional human again?
 
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SSGWar.........its the price we pay for abusing pain meds. Then again, a doctor prescribed pain meds & then pulls the carpet from under your feet w/o notice (not all doctors but some do).......

Just hang there.......paws is real but when enough time goes by, you will get out of this slump. When this will happen is different for everyone.

Good Luck.........
 
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