Supreme Court Hears Arguments in Junior High Girl Strip Search Case

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Supreme Court Hears Arguments in Junior High Girl Strip Search Case

Drug War Chronicle, Issue #582, 4/24/09

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/582/supreme_court_strip_search_case_vanessa_redding

The US Supreme Court heard oral arguments Tuesday in Stafford Unified School District #1 v. Redding, a case that originated in a school administrator's decision to subject then 13-year-old Savannah Redding to a strip search after another student said she had obtained prescription-strength Ibuprofen tablets from her.

The case began when administrators in Safford, Arizona, received a tip from a student and his parents that another child possessed the tablets and planned to give them to other students at lunch. Authorities confronted the second student and found Ibuprofen tablets in her possession. The second student told administrators she had obtained the pills from Redding.

Redding was escorted to the principal's office, and Redding's backpack and outer clothes were searched, but no pills were found. She was then told to remove her outer clothing in front of the school nurse and an administrative assistant, both female. Standing in her underwear, she was ordered to pull out her bra and underwear to allow any hidden pills to fall free. None did.

Redding and her parents then sued the school district for violating her constitutional right to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures. Redding won in the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals, and the school district appealed to the Supreme Court.

The justices' questions during oral arguments Tuesday suggested that, as they sought to find a balance between student privacy and public school safety, they were tilting toward the latter. They appeared inclined to give school administrators broad authority to do what is necessary to protect kids from drugs.

That's what attorneys for the school district argued. "Searching any place where she might be reasonably hiding that contraband was constitutionally permissible" because the school district was acting as guardian, not law enforcement, said Matthew Wright, counsel for the district. "It's not like a criminal issue where they're trying to prosecute. This is a case where they're trying to protect," Wright said. "It is best for this Court to defer to their judgment... and not second-guess those rules."

Justice David Souter, noting that the drug at issue was Ibuprofen, interjected that, "At some point, this gets silly."

Still, Souter also remarked that it could have been a more dangerous drug, and the consequences of not acting could be tragic: "My thought process is, I would rather have the kid embarrassed by a strip search, if we can't find anything short of that, than to have some other kids dead because the stuff is distributed at lunchtime and things go awry."

Justice Antonin Scalia pressed Wright about whether a body cavity search would be permissible. While Wright tried to dance around that question, saying body cavity searches were not done because school officials were not trained to do them, Scalia kept pressing. In the end, Wright conceded that "I could see that result."

Despite concerns about how far school administrators could go in searching for drugs, the justices seemed even more concerned about more dangerous drugs. The justices repeatedly asked hypothetical questions about what if it had been heroin or methamphetamine instead of Ibuprofen.

When it came time for Redding's side of the case to be argued, a Justice Department attorney took the lead. "We believe that without some particularized suspicion or some specific indication that this, the location, was a likely one to contain the drugs, that this search was excessively intrusive," said attorney David O'Neil. "And this is not a new standard."

"We agree with the federal government that before conducting an intrusive strip search a school needs to have location-specific information," argued Adam Wolf of the ACLU Drug Law Reform Project. "And while this case can begin and end with that well-accepted proposition, it's also important to recognize that a school needs greater -- a greater degree of suspicion to conduct a strip search than to conduct an ordinary backpack search. This search violated the clearly established point that in order to conduct an intrusive search of one's body, the searching official needs to at least reasonably believe that the object is located underneath the undergarments. The Fourth Amendment does not account -- it does not countenance the rummaging on or around a 13-year-old girl's naked body."

Justice Stephen Breyer tried to get Wolf to elaborate on "how bad" such searches really were, noting that students often changed clothes at school for gym class, but that only inspired Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the only woman on the court, to intervene. "It wasn't just that they were stripped to their underwear," she said incredulously, referring to Redding and another girl similarly searched at the school. "They were asked to shake their bra out, to stretch the top of their pants and shake that out."

While the justices were weighing constitutional rights and student safety, youth rights advocates had little trouble sorting out the issues. "Strip searching eighth graders is way over the line," said Amber Langston, eastern region outreach director for Students for Sensible Drug Policy (SSDP). "This kind of thing is a horrid example of the failure of our drug search policies in public schools. They said they were trying to protect the children, but who was protecting Savannah Redding from the humiliation inflicted on her by school officials?"

Students deserve the same constitutional rights as anyone else, said youth sociologist and Youth Facts founder Michael Males. And school districts should be making better choices, he added.

"Students should only be detained or searched under the same rules applied to adults," Males said. "If authorities have probable cause to suspect illegal behavior that would satisfy standards of reasonable suspicion, they can detain and search suspects. School strip searches require a very high level of probable cause, yet they typically seem based on gossip."

Males called the Redding case "particularly bizarre," noting that it only involved Ibuprofen. "School officials didn't seem interested in searching lockers, desks, or anywhere except inside the girl's underwear," he noted. "These kinds of traumatic cases are, again, why I keep arguing against raising hysteria about teenage drug use."

"Adults inspecting children's private parts is something we should be very wary of," said SSDP's Langston. "This was all over prescription-strength Ibuprofen, there was no evidence Savannah even had it except for the word of another student who was in trouble herself. If the Supreme Court allows this to stand, we will have given too much power to school officials to conduct such searches."

It's not just students but the school districts themselves that suffer from overbroad search policies, Males said. "These types of school searches have wound up costing hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars in legal costs and, to my knowledge, virtually never find anything, which raises questions of why administrators are allocating scarce education resources to them."

The Supreme Court will decide the case later this summer. All indications are it will reverse the appeals court and uphold this expansion of school administrators' authority to do "whatever it takes" to protect students from drugs.

 
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This case is so appalling its beyond belief. What enrages me nearly as much as the conduct of the relevant faculty members of the school is that this somehow isn't an open and shut case. I am disgusted that these educated judges can't immediately see how wrong this conduct was. The world has gone to hell in a fucking handbasket.
 
If the drug which this poor 13 year old girl had reputedly been in possession of - and was reputedly going to supply some other 13 year old kids with - had been crack cocaine or heroin then I can perhaps buy the school administrators' vowed intention to do "whatever it takes to protect students from drugs".

[Although even if there was overwhelmingly compelling evidence that this girl had crack or heroin on her (which, let's face it, is an incredibly rare occurrence as far as 13 year old girls go) I still believe that strip-searching a fucking child is an outrageously gross ordeal to put that minor through and simply should never be allowed to happen but I digress.......]

But we are talking about ibuprofen here! Fucking ibuprofen!

I've been following this story for a while now and each time I think about it I am simply flabbergasted and appalled that such a thing could take place in one of the more civilised and enlightened countries on this planet - and when one day the War on Drugs is looked back on and analysed closely, I am sure that it is cases such as this one which will be viewed as utterly avoidable and completely uinnecessary collateral damage caused by the ludicrous ever-pervasive view that all drugs are bad.
 
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If the schools are acting in place of the parents then it's okay for a 13 year old girl's father to do a strip search? If a 13 year old girl complains to the police or Childrens Services that her father is strip searching her you can bet he will be arrested as a child molester.

Don't we have a Constitution anymore? What happened to the 4th Amendment? No more strip search by school officials. They are not even law enforcement. No more strip search without a warrant. If someone is suspected of carrying a weapon then the police can be called. What about using a metal detector?

The war on drugs and the war on terror are only designed to erode our Constitutional rights and create chaos. These are never ending wars that can't be won and the politicians don't intend to win.
 
But we are talking about ibuprofen here! Fucking ibuprofen!

Dude, it was prescription strength Ibuprofen. This is serious business, taking just one pill of that stuff could make you feel like you've taken two regular Ibuprofen! 8o

Somebody think of the children!
 
Why did this make it ALL THE WAY TO THE FUCKING SUPREME COURT?! The school staff involved should have been charged with pedophilia already.
 
Wow.....strip searched naked all for fucking Ibuprofen?!. I swear, people need to stop doing illegal searches on citizens.....
 
I heard this on Colbert, and I swear to god I KNEW he had to be bullshitting, I thought, no way, someone said she at LEAST had pot or something, he must by joking with these IBU comments... but no.. my god.. this gives me fucking flash backs of getting searched by a fucking psychotic ex-boss from a kitchen i worked in, he owned the place and had me fuckin trapped with two other big staff n I was young, had me taking off my shoes and shit.. just to fuck with me, hell if anything to steal the dope I COULD have had lol came to find out they were all souther fuckin speed freaks.....but yeah... THAT was traumatizing enough, and it's not even close to as fucked up as what these cocksuckers did to this little girl... and they have to balls to keep fronting!!.

Keep n eye on this one folks.. don't let em get away with it, Loss of employment should just be the start for all of these monsters, I really hope this doesn't get swept away
 
Yes but to some Joe Morons out there in La La Land, "script strength" - or "prescription strength" as stated in the original article - sounds strong and as we all know, "strong is wrong" (my quotation marks) when it comes to spouting off hysterical nonsense about the subject of drugs or, as this case is an horrific example of, flagrantly ignoring an other human being's fundamental rights to live their life how they see fit - so long as their behaviour doesn't adversely affect someone else's protection by these rights.

Paraphrasing what I think a poster above me said and I'm fairly sure I'm paraphrasing the majority-view in this forum on this case: for the school officials involved in the original incident to have behaved how they did is one thing but for them to then fight their case in court still labouring under the presumption that they had done nothing wrong speaks extremely scary volumes about the increasingly totalitarian nature of not only the U.S.'s educatuion system but those many public education systems throughout the world (probably most in abundance in poor and very-poor nations who, reliant on countries like the U.S. for aid money in order to survive, most likely look to them for advice on matters such as education too - please correct me if I'm wrong) that seek to emulate how technologically and militarily-superior countries such as the U.S. "do" things like education and we're all only too grimly aware of how the U.S. leads the pack of blindly-following world-leadership opinion in the realm of policing illegal drugs and punishing those drug-offenders who get caught.
 
Dude, it was prescription strength Ibuprofen. This is serious business, taking just one pill of that stuff could make you feel like you've taken two regular Ibuprofen! 8o

Somebody think of the children!

That is true, one prescription strength ibuprofen is equal to 2 OTC ibuprofens. Once a doctor gave me 2 prescription strength ibuprofens when I had a fever. This WoD is insanity, striping down a pre-teen for something she could buy for 75 cents at a bathroom dispenser.
 
I didn't save the link but I saw yesterday that this girl won her case, not sure of the actual result though.
 
Aw that's great news :)
She deserves a huge amount of compensation for having to be put through this.
It was a fucking horrible thing to do to a young girl for something as petty as some Ibuprofen, which is perfectly legal to have on your person. Stupid fuckin arses :X

They'll think twice before they ever even consider doing such a thing again :p
 
Yeah I can't believe in it, even when I got searched at school, all they did was pat us down, empty our pockets, and take off our shoes, they did nothing more. I didn't have anything on me and could of easily hidden something but a strip search is fucking way out of line, especially for ibuprofen.
 
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