Supreme Court decision gives cops less power to search your car

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/us/22scotus.html?_r=2&8au&emc=au


WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday significantly cut back the ability of the police to search the cars of people they arrest.

Police officers have for a generation understood themselves to be free to search vehicles based on nothing more than the fact that they had just arrested an occupant. That principle, Justice John Paul Stevens acknowledged in his majority opinion, “has been widely taught in police academies” and “law enforcement officers have relied on the rule in conducting vehicle searches during the past 28 years.”

The majority replaced that bright-line rule with a more nuanced one, and law enforcement officials greeted it with dismay. “It’s just terrible,” William J. Johnson, the executive director of the National Association of Police Organizations, said of the decision. “It’s certainly going to result in less drug and weapons cases being made.”

In a dissent, four justices said the majority had effectively overruled an important and straightforward Fourth Amendment precedent established by the court in a 1981 decision, New York v. Belton.

Justice Stevens denied that. The precedent of Belton had often been applied too broadly, he said. Vehicle searches should be allowed only in two situations, he wrote: when the person being arrested is close enough to the car to reach in, possibly to grab a weapon or tamper with evidence; or when the arresting officer reasonably believes that the car contains evidence pertinent to the very crime that prompted the arrest.

In the case decided Tuesday, Rodney J. Gant, an Arizona man, was arrested on an outstanding warrant for driving with a suspended license. He was handcuffed in the back of a patrol car while his car was searched.

The police found cocaine and a gun, and Mr. Gant was convicted on drug charges and sentenced to three years. The Arizona Supreme Court ruled that the search of Mr. Gant’s car had violated the Fourth Amendment’s ban on unreasonable searches and suppressed the evidence against him. The United States Supreme Court affirmed that decision on Tuesday.

Justice Stevens, joined by the unusual alliance of Justices Antonin Scalia, David H. Souter, Clarence Thomas and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, said the court had agreed to hear the case because the conventional view of the Belton decision had been widely criticized. “The chorus that has called for us to revisit Belton,” Justice Stevens wrote, “includes courts, scholars and members of this court who have questioned that decision’s clarity and fidelity to Fourth Amendment principles.”

Police officers and lower courts, Justice Stevens wrote, had failed to take adequate account of the two rationales that animated Belton: protecting the safety of arresting officers and safeguarding evidence of crimes. Those rationales only make sense, he said, “when the arrestee is unsecured and within reaching distance” of the car.

At the same time, the majority announced a new justification for a search in connection with an arrest, one drawing on a 2004 concurrence questioning Belton from Justice Scalia. Searches of vehicles are permissible, Justice Stevens said, “when it is reasonable to believe evidence relevant to the crime of arrest might be found in the vehicle.”

As a practical matter, that means many arrests for traffic offenses will not by themselves allow police officers to search vehicles. Arrests for other kinds of crimes, though, may well supply a basis for a search.

The decision, Arizona v. Gant, No. 07-542, was the last to be issued from among the cases the court heard in its October sitting, and it was marked by an uneasy compromise that probably explains the delay.

Justice Scalia said he would have overruled Belton outright and substituted a rule that allowed searches of vehicles in connection with arrests only where the search seeks evidence of the crime for which the arrest was made or another one for which there is probable cause. He added that he joined the majority opinion to avoid a 4-1-4 decision “that leaves the governing rule uncertain.”

Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., joined in full by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Anthony M. Kennedy and for the most part by Justice Stephen G. Breyer, said the broad Belton rule was sensible and easy to apply.

On the other hand, the new rule allowing searches for evidence of the crime that prompted the arrest, Justice Alito said, “is virtually certain to confuse law enforcement officers and judges for some time to come.”

And the part of the majority opinion allowing searches only when the person arrested can reach the car “may endanger arresting officers,” Justice Alito wrote.

Mr. Johnson of the police association explained the problem. “The case creates a temptation,” he said, “for police to leave the occupant of a vehicle unsecured in the belief that they are now operating within the Fourth Amendment in terms of being able to search the vehicle.”

Though Justice Stevens did not concede that Tuesday’s decision overruled Belton, he did say that fidelity to precedent was no reason to allow constitutional violations to continue.

“Countless individuals guilty of nothing more serious that a traffic violation,” he wrote, “have had their constitutional right to the security of their private effects violated” by the broad rule struck down on Tuesday.
 
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I am a bit confused though. Does that mean cops can search arestees' cars because the arestees are still in the car?
 
^Well, obviously, once a person is officially arrested (like w/ handcuffs) no the cop cannot search the car.

I wonder how this will apply to drug dog sniffing procedure.
 
Sorry I misworded that. I mean, when a cop pulls someone over, and that person is still in their car, can a cop search it?
 
If they can't search the car once someone's been arrested, then they can't search it before the arrest. It's not like they can undo a prior search once they arrest someone.

The article could have been much more clearly worded-- and spent more time describing the change that has been enacted rather than the social implications. And I also want to know about drug sniffing dogs.
 
If they can't search the car once someone's been arrested, then they can't search it before the arrest. It's not like they can undo a prior search once they arrest someone.

But the article says that the officer may search the car if the person is near it.
 
so weird, i just read this article sent to me by 3diff pplz & then its here.
In a dissent, four justices said the majority had effectively overruled an important and straightforward Fourth Amendment precedent established by the court in a 1981 decision, New York v. Belton.
Amen!
 
Good to hear, less power to search is a good thing imho. The cops have too many oppurtunities to invade the peoples privacy based on nothing but a gung ho attitude towards putting as many people behind bars as possible.
 
Doesn't effect what happens with a drug dog responding to a car. That gives the police probable cause, which this does not effect.
 
As long as drug dogs continue to be used, the cops can do whatever they want. K-9 units are a scam, those dogs are trained by the officers they live with to false alert. I don't trust fucking canines anyways, I don't know why the courts do!
 
As long as drug dogs continue to be used, the cops can do whatever they want. K-9 units are a scam, those dogs are trained by the officers they live with to false alert. I don't trust fucking canines anyways, I don't know why the courts do!

Fingerprint and handwriting analysis can be called into question for their scientific validity and objectivity just as easily as drug sniffing dogs. Or polygraphs. A lot of the tools available to law enforcement to use against us citizens are complete scams. :)
 
polygraphs ive found out recently are not admissible in court & the dogs do false alert all the time.
 
Fingerprint and handwriting analysis can be called into question for their scientific validity and objectivity just as easily as drug sniffing dogs. Or polygraphs. A lot of the tools available to law enforcement to use against us citizens are complete scams. :)

Fingerprints, really? I agree about the others though.

From what I have heard explained this ruling means that if someone who is pulled over for speeding cannot then be searched, well unless a cloud of smoke pours out of the window when rolled down. Passengers also will no longer be searched except for exceptions similar to what I mentioned.
 
http://lippard.blogspot.com/2007/06/fingerprint-matching-pseudoscience.html
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In 2004, the FBI claimed that a fingerprint found on a bag at the sign of a terrorist bombing in Madrid, Spain on March 11 was a match to the left index finger of Brandon Mayfield, an attorney in Beaverton, Oregon who converted to Islam and married to a Muslim woman from Egypt. Despite the fact that Spanish police disagreed, claiming that there was no match to Mayfield, the FBI insisted they had a "one hundred percent identification" with fifteen separate points of agreement between the latent print from Spain and Mayfield's fingerprint, validated by at least three FBI fingerprint examiners. Mayfield was arrested and detained on May 6, 2004. On May 20, Spanish police announced that they had matched the fingerprint to Ouhnane Daoud of Algeria, who--unlike Mayfield--had actually been in Spain. Mayfield was released and the FBI ended up apologizing.
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http://lippard.blogspot.com/2007/06/fingerprint-matching-pseudoscience.html
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In 2004, the FBI claimed that a fingerprint found on a bag at the sign of a terrorist bombing in Madrid, Spain on March 11 was a match to the left index finger of Brandon Mayfield, an attorney in Beaverton, Oregon who converted to Islam and married to a Muslim woman from Egypt. Despite the fact that Spanish police disagreed, claiming that there was no match to Mayfield, the FBI insisted they had a "one hundred percent identification" with fifteen separate points of agreement between the latent print from Spain and Mayfield's fingerprint, validated by at least three FBI fingerprint examiners. Mayfield was arrested and detained on May 6, 2004. On May 20, Spanish police announced that they had matched the fingerprint to Ouhnane Daoud of Algeria, who--unlike Mayfield--had actually been in Spain. Mayfield was released and the FBI ended up apologizing.
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Well it just looks like the FBI overzealously railroaded that guy from Oregon. Says nothing about how fingerprinting is inaccurate, otherwise how are we sure that guy from Spain is not innocent too? Everyone on Earth has an individual fingerprint (excluding identical twins?).
 
Yeah, that doesn't do anything to disprove the science of fingerprint analysis, which is incredibly well validated.

Humans screw it up, but that says nothing of the efficacy of the science.

Computers have to solve this somehow.
 
Well it just looks like the FBI overzealously railroaded that guy from Oregon. Says nothing about how fingerprinting is inaccurate, otherwise how are we sure that guy from Spain is not innocent too? Everyone on Earth has an individual fingerprint (excluding identical twins?).

The 'matching' process is done by a human 'expert' who earns a salary from the FBI. Whether or not it's possibly to scientifically match fingerprints, the techniques used in the criminal justice system aren't necessarily trustworthy.
 
Someone try to sum up the article in a few sentences & tell us how it affects us. If a cop pulls us over or raids your crib will it make a difference?
 
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