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(Supposed 6-APB/ 120mg) - First two times - an unexpected goldmine

Akerman

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Edited to add: this records our first two experiences with this drug, apologies for not origionally putting it in the title, this is a live report heh. Both of us have tried other drugs, myself more experienced than my partner.

After posting a question yesterday that got understandably moved and closed due to my own silliness, iv decided to re-post in a more appropriate place, with more of my own experience and better formed questions.

Since this drug is legal, I'll talk in real-life terms.

On Thursday I purchased two tablets claiming to contain 120mg 1-benzofuran-6-ylpropan-2-amine each. We are both short and heavy (myself more-so than my partner). We took these the same day followed by a heavy meal, with not huge hopes, but it was incredible. It took quite a while to come up for myself and my partner and we weren't sure it was working. Then, out of no-where, we started talking - openly, nakedly, about everything. We had personal revelations, truly mind-blowing things came out - to be fully open and honest, we have both tried counseling and medication for various emotional problems, but this made me more honest, more able to relate to my lover and understand myself, than anything else ever has. Swim had heard of such effects from mdma but had never experienced them, possibly due to an over-paranoid and anxious mindset, similarly swim had heard of people having great personal revelations with lsd and mushrooms but had not experienced such. But this surpassed even the greatest expectations swim had for those. If one is unable to achieve the emotional high often associated with drugs like MDMA, this really may be a better option to achieve it.

Myself and my partner both had a desire to write, to spread the joy of this drug to everyone, to express love openly and endlessly. We talked for hours, and I chose to stay up all night to get hold of some more asap; just in case it went down like miow miow, and before either of us was able to sleep it off and forget how incredible it was.

During the morning I threw up a few times and the vomit was a little oily, but I hadn't eaten and had been drinking wine so this was both limited and not directly attributed to the 6-APB alone. I was also menstruating at the time and at one point we talked for so long that I leaked - might be a bit too much info for some, but it speaks to the state of mind of distraction and total involvement in conversation. I took a warm shower and it felt incredibly soothing, removing my nausea. What I thought to be the comedown was gentle - suddenly things weren't blurry to my eyes, the room looked steadier, I felt more awake. For my partner it was emotionally rougher, mostly because of the intensity of the things that had come out during the trip, and he was a little worried that it was only the trip that made it seem like he had uncovered something so important (sober, we confirmed that it was not).

I put on my make up and feeling oddly vibrant I went out alone, and although it had been easily 15 hours since I dropped the pill and I was exhausted (and had not eaten) I felt really good. I have a lot of social anxiety - I have at times taken a train to a city destination, been overwhelmed on arrival and gone straight back home. But not that day - I chatted to people. And not in a drug-fucked way, actually just not being terrified of people. I talked to a toilet attendant about the newly installed needle-drop boxes, I directed a couple people to places, I bought a coffee and sat and drank it in a cafe without worrying and had the confidence to say thank you for it (which for me, is a big deal). I chatted to a guy about a rugby game. I felt more confident than I ever have without a level of inebriation that makes it embarrassing. I did, however, develop a slight dull ache in the back of my (subjectively) right thigh. It felt like a deep, vein-based thing so I took some (legally prescribed, for anxiety) propranolol and the pain went away. I also had a bit of a cough - a slightly rattley, dry-fleghmy thing. I do attribute this at least partly to the drug, but I had also been chain-smoking hand-rolled ciggies all night and not drinking any liquids or eating anything.

I got home and went to bed. When me and my partner woke up we were still exhausted, but I stayed up for a good 12 hours painting and watching tv, feeling tired but good. The next day, I was still feeling more confident, open and self-aware. When I came to bed with my boyfriend, his hands felt divine just holding me as I drifted slowly to sleep.

This evening, we decided to try it again, same dose. This time it was taken after food. I have kept a record thus far and am keeping it updated. After re-reading the forum rules (sorry, it's been awhile and I really am just having one of those days) I will be posting this once I consider it complete.
 
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I also have a question from this experience, but I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post them (if it's not, I apologize, Mods please feel free to delete if I'm being silly again).

It's about a side-effect I have heard reported/experienced but cannot find much info on (I really have tried, sorry if I'm just being a drug-head idiot!). I've seen a lot of reports mentioning chest pain and I myself experienced some slight chest pain this morning (which I did not, till now, attribute to the drugs) as well as the aforementioned pain in my thigh. Does anyone know anything much about this, or what should be done to prevent any harm occurring from it?
 
Yes that chest pain is pretty annoying but I was able to avoid it on multiple occasions by not consuming alcohol during the trip, being well hydrated, and having a good meal 2/3 hours before the trip. I don't know what it's related to, though, I assumed it was some kind of gastric issue.
 
Nice report!

Don't worry about the title - I changed it so it is in the proper format.

BTW, it is funny that you use SWIM a few times, even though you use "I" in most places :)
 
Yes that chest pain is pretty annoying but I was able to avoid it on multiple occasions by not consuming alcohol during the trip, being well hydrated, and having a good meal 2/3 hours before the trip. I don't know what it's related to, though, I assumed it was some kind of gastric issue.

Drinking more and eating before the trip rather than after did seem to reduce the problem for me, but the fact that propranolol cut it out completely is interesting to me (and probably more so to someone with the knowledge to put it in a proper context).

Thanks allium :) The SWIM thing was my own silliness again - I'd started off using it because I couldn't remember if Bluelight required it, then switched back when I realized it didn't, but was a little too out of it and eager to share to go back and change it! I've now written up the report from my second trip and think it's about ready to post. So, here goes nothing...

Two fat people, myself with experience of most of the common illicit drugs and having tried this once before, Ingested one pill of 120mg 6-APB each, at approximately 20.25 on Saturday evening. We were also smoking marijuana during this, but both having tolerances such as that it shouldn’t have affected the trip significantly. We also drank some wine and vodka (doses detailed later).

20.34 Slight, possibly imagined nausea and need to poop

21.37 Not much going on, perhaps a little warmer - took a cool shower in the dark with my lover, experienced increased confidence, comfortable being naked together, touching feels wonderful but not to a distracting degree.

21.49 Desperate urge to make some stir-fry – seem to have the munchies, which I certainly did not have last time

22.38 Made and ate some stir fry. Went to the bathroom, slightly painful lower tummy, possibly gas. Going to the loo not too comfy - feels like constipation but poop is more like diarrhoea. Bottom burns a little afterwards, but nothing worse than a curry really

22.54 Desperately need to poop again, but trying to put it off. Have been researching doses online, considering taking another as I'm not sure I'm feeling anything, but some bad effects have been reported at 200 so I decide to leave it be. I drink a glass of wine and start to feel like I'm coming up a bit, slight floatiness, possibly slight breathlessness

23.01 have just finished a spliff but almost feel compelled to roll a straight. Desperate desire to chain smoke! Feeling increased emotional openness, more connected to my partners drug rambles, but also slightly nauseous

23.11 Just found a bunch of episodes of Castle I haven't seen, which is awesome, but we can't stop chattering long enough to watch then, so we look for something else to put on, but get sidetracked chatting. Very high now, but not quite so there as my partner. Very dry mouth but don't feel like drinking

23.19 Very lightheaded, slightly spinny, quite nauseous. Still need to poop but this nausea is the kind that feels like it needs to sit still.

23.54 Both grinding our teeth quite a bit, nausea and need to poop have gone. Feeling good, vision a little blurry, palms quite sweaty. Feeling chatty. Can't wait to stop typing so I can smoke - cigarettes seem to have the effect of marijuana right now

00.02 I notice I'm wheezing very, very slightly whilst smoking. It clears up within a few seconds, but seems worth mentioning.

00.21 Talking incredibly deeply with my partner about anything and everything I have ever wanted to bring up but have not been comfortable talking about. Physically very comfortable too, no side-effects currently poking their heads up
00.48 My partner is really getting into some music, signing along, and is also well into spontaneous proclamations of love
01.05 Just nipped to my bathroom, which is painted purple and pink. Got some slight strobing – the air in the room looked a little coloured, very pleasant. Grinding my teeth a little more noticeably. I decide to roll a spliff after updating this. Writing and talking seems very easy – this drug does not seem to have a negative impact on mental faculties. If it weren’t for the fact that my pupils are quite noticeably dilated and the slight gurning, I honestly think I could hold up a conversation with a team of psychologists and police officers without anything seeming off.
01.15 Worth noting – a crisp rose wine tastes beyond divine on this substance – also really, really enjoying writing and updating this on my phone, it feels fantastic to emote and share, even in the future tense
1.18 Have quite a desire to re- or up- dose. Forehead, pits, feet and hands are sweaty, but feeling really good. Tongue is quite white and furry and I have dry-mouth

1.39 Went to the loo and discovered my period had once again got the better of me and I had leaked thru my pants - very annoying, and since I slept with a tampon in the previous night without leaking, it hadn't been long since I changed the tampon and the sheer fact it was twice in two trips, I'm forced to conclude the drug is making my menstrual flow heavier - again, some of the boys may think it's too much info, but it is, at least to me, extremely interesting. (Added later: although I don’t feel I should really have to say it, for this reason, I would not recommend this substance anyone who has recently been, is currently or is planning to soon become pregnant, or anyone who has had any kind of problem with too heavy a flow, as I understand some people do). I'm not feeling the high quite like last time or like my partner, so I decide to take roughly a third of another tablet, being careful not to hit the 200 Mark where I hear it gets nasty. Slightly worried about even distribution of substance within pill.

02.07 Talking even more openly

4.23 Have just been talking with my partner for hours now, this really is *the* relationship drug. Split the rest of the pill between us, an additional 1/4 each

5.03am, Sunday. Conversation has cooled down and we're chilling watching TV, waiting to come back up fully. However, not sober by any means, and conversation winding up felt like a natural and comfortable end, not frustrating or awkward in any way. Recently started having some degree of hot and cold flushes. Possible slight cramping or discomfort in the chest and abdomen on the subjectively left side, but nothing serious

5.15 Things I’ve noticed; oily skin on my face. Feels like we're coming down but after little re-dose can't be sure we aren't on our way to bouncing back up again. Vision is quite blurry; nothing that will get in the way of everyday activities but I can't read things on the computer screen across the room that I think I would usually see fine; quite fidgety; ie compulsively shaking feet, rocking side to side

5.48 Just looked at come-up for first consumption of the evening, come-up seemed to take around 2.5 hours; so, we should know what's going to happen with the latest dose by 7

6.09 have heard stuff about possible water retention on this drug, but I'm peeing fine. However, pooping is not so regular - when I went to the bathroom a minute ago, it was as it had been earlier - like I need to poop, even a little lower abdominal pain, but 0-very-little actual pooping.

6.28 have had less jaw grinding thus far today than with first trip. Also, mouth is extremely dry again but since I’ve ingested a lot of liquids this time (unlike last-time) it does seem it's down to the drug not the actual ingestion or non-ingestion of liquids

6.44 Voice is a little croaky.

07.32 Thought about a Twinkie I ate a couple months back, and realised that I hadn't liked the taste of it because I could taste and smell the chemically-ness of its plastic wrapper. I did not even consciously register it at the time, but now I can remember perfectly that sterilised, plastic scent and how it compromised the cake. A very strange, intense, almost implausibly distant sensory memory restored better than I was aware it had been recorded

7.56 Tongue is very white and furry

8.16 Feeling good, drifting between high and not, in no way unpleasantly. My lips are quite peely and a little sore but have been drinking vodka and oj for hours now so may not be the pills perse

9.03 Most reports seem to indicate no desire to re-dose and in my first experience with this substance I did feel the trip reached a natural end, but I am feeling a strong desire to just drop another and keep the whole thing going; sounds lame, but this drug really is the closest to heaven I have ever been; this is what I imagine the perfect mind-state to be like, a good grip on reality but no fears, no anxiety, nothing in your own mind working against you. I don't actually plan to re-dose but both me and my partner really, really want to - possibly more because the sun has come up and we're not tired, than for any other reason

9.17 Dull pain begins to spring in back subjectively right thigh. Recognising it, I take 40mg of propranolol as soon as it registers

19.27 Worth noting we have been smoking and drinking quite a lot of alcohol this trip. My partner has smoked at least 25 little rollies. I’ve smoked less, but mostly because I keep letting them go out and going back to them, but I think I too have vaguely had something on the go the whole time. Alcohol consumption also feels almost necessary if it's possible - it tastes amazing and it’s a really complimentary high, including on the ride down we've experienced so far. Between us we've had 350cl vodka and a bottle of wine - no negative effects to the booze you'd expect, no nausea, no tiredness, no headache, no loss of mental control. It feels like the pills have kind of purified the alcohol high for me. I also seem to have killed off the pain in my thigh before it began.

10.11 Smoked a spliff which was suddenly effective in ways it hadn't been during the rest of the high. I feel very relaxed, drifting gently down into what I assume will be sleepiness; I actually do feel quite tired, winding down nicely, smoothly. Feeling quite thirsty for something more watery than oj. We have been peeing quite a lot, certainly more than once an hour, but we've been drinking a lot as well. Not sure the trip would have been nearly so pleasant if we hadn't have had tv to go to; there was lots of talking but then a quiet spell took over, we really couldn't talk anymore, almost like emotional exhaustion, but in a very good way. It may have been uncomfortable had we not been able to switch on the TV and let something external take over the entertainment for while

10.20 My partner has started reading V for Vendetta, and is quite involved – in his words, 'What the BLEEP kind of drug makes you desperate to read a favourite old book?'

10.25 Grapefruit squash, om nom nom. Also remembered that memory isn't great, losing trains of thought quite a bit. Yesterday lost phone and today rizla – and both were in my handbag, which I swear to gosh I checked.

10.34 May be starting to feel the slightest tingle of the onset of nausea - would like to put it out of my mind but seemed pertinent to record it

11.44 Both of us have started yawning a bit so we roll some smokes and move into the bedroom to chill out with some more tv. We're getting sleepy if not quite ready to sleep, and both of us have developed the same rattley cough we experienced before, nothing major and could possibly be attributed to the endless smoking we have done

20.20pm Sunday. Must have fallen asleep because I'm woken up by a mix of urgently needing the loo and the cat attacking my feet - I’ve slept very well, but would have probably clambered back to bed had my boyfriend not been up and the cat not been insane

21.10 I’ve only been up for an hour, and slept for around 8 hours, but I could sleep

23.24 I’m very tired but my partner (who slept fitfully) is not. I'm also experiencing some cramps in my lower abdomen. However, overall I feel quite good; just lazy and sleepy. No nausea this time either, and jaw doesn't hurt so I'm guessing I didn't experience any tooth grinding whilst I slept

00.52 Both of collapse back into bed, knackered

13.00 Monday. Woke up - if this stuff has a come-down for me, it's that it makes me sleep

21.20 I’ve been very tired for most of the day, and very cuddly - just want to curl up with my partner and snooze

23.00pm In bed again, still a little constipated

By Tuesday morning, all is completely normal again

This drug generally
Not really at its greatest being used as a recreational drug; it's a therapeutic, relationship-healing, demon-conquering drug. It is, without a doubt, one of (if not the) most impressive intoxicants I've come across. It’s also a long trip, and although we didn't follow this advice, it's more of a Friday night drug than a Saturday one if you've gotta work on Monday. It also takes a long time to come up, so put a minimum of three hours between doses to be cautious, even if nothing seems to be happening. Equally, I'm a bit of a drug-pig and we're both fatties, but that didn’t seem to affect the doses much, so even if you're the kind of person that needs a lot of anything to hit them (which I am) or if you have existing tolerances to seemingly similar drugs, don't let that change your initial doses with this. Although obviously, safety first, you shouldn’t be ingesting this at all, definitely do not touch it if you have problems with your heart or circulatory system, or if you’re a female anywhere around having recently, being or planning to carry a child. Visuals were very minor for me, slightly brighter colours and very minor tracers with slightly blurry vision, but not that noticeable and certainly not the point of the trip - MDMA or LSD seem better options if you’re looking for a visual high. A few days of extreme tiredness seem unavoidable, so have your bed ready to crash into. It's an extremely social drug, so keep the setting right - people you trust and want to open up to, and who feel the same about you. This stuff makes you want to talk and tackle problems, but it doesn't seem to make you spill secrets unless you want to - I at no point felt I had verbal diarrhoea and I always felt in control of what I was saying. If MDMA gives someone perfect empathy and honesty, they might not think so highly of this substance as I do, but if even large doses of good quality MDMA don't give you that kind of openness and trust, this just might change your world. Furthermore, it does seem to have some lasting impact on your worldview and private insanity. I’m terrible with people, and don't get me wrong, now sober, I’ve absolutely no desire to go outside and be near them, but remembering the pure, level-headed and altogether normal way I dealt with them whilst on this substance, I feel a lot more confidence in my abilities to do so again, sober.

This trip versus last trip: less tooth-grinding, no nausea, slightly less effect from the same dose suggesting development of some kind of tolerance, no chest pain

What was different: higher alcohol consumption, we knew what to expect, took propranolol early on, drank more water, took it on a full tummy rather than before eating, no cocodamol (which I had taken earlier in the day for menstrual cramps before I first tried 6-APB) 2 small re-doses (and a higher dose overall)

I hope this experience will be useful to someone. Although there seems to be quite a bit of whinging in this report, I have to say, there is no 'recreational' drug I'd give a more glowing review to.
 
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those are two brilliant reports right there!

you've actually encouraged me to give it a go. been on the fence for ages, all the reports of gastric
upsets turned me off. hate drugs that mess with my already fairly sensitive stomach.

seems a worthy sacrifice for such a nice trip though.

off i go to buy some 6-APB methinks...

should be an interesting weekend ;D

thank you
 
Akerman, that I not too much information, as heard an experience that was very similar. My second cousins GF took 50mg of 6-apb with some molly and 20mg of 5-apb(a a few beers throughout the night). She was not on her period but experienced menstrual flow(not bad though). This drug seems to trigger something in females to cause this. She also noted that the 6-apb did not affect her like my cousin, who was experiencing extreme euphoria. The drug seems to greatly affect each person differently. The comedown is pretty rough. Didn't really get headaches like other people but was really really tired.
 
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