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Our bodies can make DHA and EPA from alpha-linolenic acid, so actually I think you'll find it is the linseed/algee that is VITAL as it provides alpha-linolenic acid and the fish oils only provide DHA and EPA. And no I dont want to kill crustaceans, it is completely unnessesary. Where do you think the fish get their DHA and EPA from in the first place? They make it from eating algae, Its makes sense to just eat the algae directly, rather than filter it through a body and eat a dead corpse. Our bodies assimilate the omega-3 easily from algae too, it's not like we need the fish to transform it for us. Regardless of these facts, if one was particularly worried about there DHA levels (say during pregnancy, you might want to be extra sure) A vegan DHA made from microalgae has been developed and is being added to some foods and used to make supplements. DHA and EPA are available already in these states in microalgae and some sea vegetable. Hense, do not need tro kill the fisj, u do it because u choose to, not because it's necessary.

And yes as a person who lives in New Zealand where our sun is harsh all year long I do indeed get enough vitamin D from sun exposure without dietary supplimentation, though if I needed it I could easily take a vitamin D supplement derived from yeast. I believe it is already supplemented into my rice milk as it comes from USA and probably in my multi viatamin aswell, vitamin D is so far from being an issue for me its laughable. I also use the solarium when I'm not too high to stand it. Even if I lived in a northern climate, your wrong about it being unavailable 9 months of the year, its only for 5 months and Provided you spend a normal amount of time exposed to sunlight and dont vampire it at home all year, your body DOES store enough over the remaining 7months and can provide adequet levels between october and march. In some instances vitamin d supplementation may be advisable for for vegan, but its not nessesary if you get adequet exposure to UVB like there is where I live. You really ought to research vegan nutrition a little further considering you are vegan. I've never met a vegan who laughs at the pain and suffering of non-human species before either, seems a little contradictive to me.

Anway, thanks for all the advice on what to take re withrawal period from meth, I'm going to start just taking the sublingual b12 again and see if that helps, if not probablly get as many of those suggested as possible.
 
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And just for the benfit of those who think eatish fish is healthy..

Fish’s bodies absorb toxic chemicals in the water around them, and the chemicals become more concentrated as they move up the food chain. Big fish eat little fish, with the bigger fish (such as tuna and salmon) absorbing chemicals from all the other fish they eat. Fish flesh stores contaminants, such as PCBs, which cause liver damage, nervous system disorders, and fetal damage; dioxins, also linked to cancer; radioactive substances like strontium 90; and other dangerous contaminants like cadmium, mercury, lead, chromium, and arsenic, which can cause health problems ranging from kidney damage and impaired mental development to cancer.1,2 3,4 These toxins are stored in the body fat of humans who eat fish and remain in their bodies for decades.5 Seafood is also the number one cause of food poisoning in the United States. Many of our waterways are polluted with human and animal feces, and this waste carries dangerous bacteria like E. coli. So when we eat fish, we are exposing ourselves to the unnecessary risk of contracting a nasty bacterial illness that can lead to mild to extreme discomfort, nervous system damage, and even death.7According to a report by the General Accounting Office, the seafood industry is dangerously underregulated. In fact, the Food and Drug Administration doesn’t even bother to test most fish flesh for many well-known chemical and bacterial health hazards.10
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mercury anyone?
Around the world, fish are accumulating toxic mercury in their flesh as a result of industrial pollution. Fish absorb and ingest the mercury and store it in their tissues. If you eat fish, your body will absorb mercury from the fish’s flesh, and the accumulation of this toxin can lead to serious health problems. It is worth noting that fish consumption is the sole source of human exposure to this known poison.11 Eating even small amounts of fish flesh can have a big impact on the levels of mercury in our blood. A study by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) revealed that women who ate fish just twice a week had blood mercury concentrations seven times higher than women who hadn’t eaten fish in the previous month.13 Studies have also shown that a 140-pound woman will be 30 percent over the EPA cutoff for safe mercury levels if she eats just one 6-ounce can of white tuna each week.14Mercury is known to cause severe health problems for humans, including brain damage, memory loss, personality change, tremors, spontaneous abortion, and damage to a developing fetus.15 Mercury poisoning from eating fish can also cause fatigue and memory loss, which some doctors call “fish fog.”16 A study conducted by San Francisco physician Jane Hightower found that dozens of her patients had high levels of mercury in their bodies and many showed symptoms of mercury poisoning, including hair loss, fatigue, depression, difficulty concentrating and headaches. She found that her patients’ symptoms improved when they stopped eating fish.18 “[Mercury is] a documented poison. Wherever it’s seen, it’s been a problem,” says Hightower.19
Researchers have also shown that the mercury in marine animals can cause heart problems in humans who eat their flesh. A recent report released by the Research Institute of Public Health in Finland showed that men who have elevated levels of mercury in their blood from eating fish are roughly 1.5 times more likely to suffer from heart problems, including heart disease and heart attacks.20heart disease is the leading cause of premature death in the united states
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It goes on with more reasons fish are unhealth for humans if u want to visit the website i mentioned earlier coz its too long to put here, all stgudies and refrences are listed too so you know this information comes from reliable sources.
 
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Yes I am unhealthy because obviously I am a drug addict. I'm trying to overcome this however as should be self evident by the fact I started a thread about natural ways to ease withdrawal during quiting. 8)
 
Libby said:
Our bodies can make DHA and EPA from alpha-linolenic acid, so actually I think you'll find it is the linseed/algee that is VITAL as it provides alpha-linolenic acid and the fish oils only provide DHA and EPA. And no I dont want to kill crustaceans, it is completely unnessesary. Where do you think the fish get their DHA and EPA from in the first place? They make it from eating algae, Its makes sense to just eat the algae directly, rather than filter it through a body and eat a dead corpse. Our bodies assimilate the omega-3 easily from algae too, it's not like we need the fish to transform it for us. Regardless of these facts, if one was particularly worried about there DHA levels (say during pregnancy, you might want to be extra sure) A vegan DHA made from microalgae has been developed and is being added to some foods and used to make supplements. DHA and EPA are available already in these states in microalgae and some sea vegetable. Hense, do not need tro kill the fisj, u do it because u choose to, not because it's necessary.
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Did you even bother to read my posts, Libby? We don't make very much DHA and EPA from ALA at ALL. Here's waving a degree in your face: I'm a biochemist and I know a bit about this stuff! It's very, very little. So DHA/EPA supplementation is still VERY important if you want the good brain effects of the fish oils. I also mentioned the algae and krill :P

Oh, and about the mercury thing: Good quality fish oils are molecularly distilled to remove the mercury. So, no worries about that.
 
I did read your post, I'm not going to kill krill when vegetable sources are availiable.
And that was the whole point I was trying to make, that it wasn't Vital or necessary in any way to have fish oil, you can get all the omega-3 ALA DHA/EPA your body needs from other sources. I was mearly educating those who argued fish/animal products as NECESSARY that this was not the case. I never accused you of neglecting the algae in your post.

And now that we cleared that up,I have been taking Chlorella and Milk thistlke and multi vitamins, and the sublingual B12, I havn't felt any depression symptoms so I havn't bothered to invest in any other products. I'm now 9 days clean and feel pretty fantastic, if a bit fat, lol.
 
B-50 Complex (incl. B-100 and B150 etc) Question

Has anyone tried the B-50 Complex pills and felt a significant energy boost from them? paired with slightly elevated mood and increased motivation?

I have been using them for about two weeks now, and I take 4 at once [they sell a B-250 Complex so i doubt I'm killing myself with this dose] in the evening when my beloved amphetamine has all but run its course, and they are actually doing something.

I am wondering...is this placebo effect? Which doesnt matter because if placebo helps me,so be it and long live placebo....but has anyone else felt this? I was always skeptical about vitamin supplements and 'herbal remedies' and all that...in fact I was diametrically opposed. But the B complexes are actually working and affecting me in a positive way.

Anyone else had this? What are your views on the B complexes? Is there any harm in the long run from taking them? sorry for my naivete, i only know about heavy psychiatric drugs, not vitamins unfortunately.
 
antibiotics and ecstasy

i was recently prescribed augmentin f(or 10 days 2x a day) and was wondering if its ok for me to roll. was planning on rolling on saturday night. if i dont take my pill on saturday, would it be ok to roll without any complications? any one with any experience on this? any input is appreciated. thanks
 
Magnesium - WHAT HAVE I DONE WITHOUT YOU

Hey peeps! Just thought I'd put up a bit of info on a Magnesium Deficiency, it seems that I have been living with one for a few good weeks now and I'm sure a few others would be too. I was shocked when I found that I was positive for all symptoms.

Here they are:

Even a mild deficiency causes
-sensitiveness to noise
-cramps in the toes, feet, legs, or fingers
-nervousness
-irritability
-mental depression
-confusion
-twitching
-trembling
-apprehension
-insomnia
-muscle weakness

Enjoy! :)
 
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I take magnesium once in a while when I have muscle tension/stiffness or when I'm trying to prevent jaw clenching for whatever reason. :) I should try taking it more often to see what else it does for me..
 
Did you do a testosterone test as 450mg and 30mg zinc have been proven to slightly increase testosterone levels leading me to believe low magnesium leads to low test, low test levels have the same (almost) symptons as that afaik?
 
is it ZINC and MAGNESIUM ?

someone mentioned this to me recently too,

i'm gonna go get some RIGHT NOW !
 
bambamtincanman said:
Hey peeps! Just thought I'd put up a bit of info on a Magnesium Deficiency, it seems that I have been living with one for a few good weeks now and I'm sure a few others would be too. I was shocked when I found that I was positive for all symptoms.

Here they are:

Even a mild deficiency causes
-sensitiveness to noise
-cramps in the toes, feet, legs, or fingers
-nervousness
-irritability
-mental depression
-confusion
-twitching
-trembling
-apprehension
-insomnia
-muscle weakness

Enjoy! :)
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Wait, you haven't been clear in your post: Have you now started taking magnesium? If so, have the above mentioned symptoms subsided? Do tell us!
 
yeah i took 2, eqiv. to 200mg element magnesium- sensitivity to noise dropped within 15 minutes. muscle stiffness and cramps are gone, they were only mild though (thankfully). i believe i became deficent due to drinking too much milk, and in turn, excessive calcium.

milk lovers beware. ;)
 
I took lots of magnesium when I was on copious amounts of drugs. It did give me a slight feeling of wellness during those awful comedowns.
 
Arnold said:
Did you do a testosterone test as 450mg and 30mg zinc have been proven to slightly increase testosterone levels leading me to believe low magnesium leads to low test, low test levels have the same (almost) symptons as that afaik?
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nah, pretty sure my test is fine, balls are big, slong is long. 8o lol jk

haha seriously though, that's not an accurate indicator of test. the zinc + magnesium (and usually + b6) combo had been around for a while and there is a fair bit of published data on the effectiveness of them together.

i dont reckon a magnesium deficiency alone would cause low test, magnesium (and zinc) would only be secondary chemicals in the process.
 
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