Supplements for Mdxx Use

[pharma-sutra]

What are some safe vasodilators to take to remedy vasconstrictive side effects of mdxx and other stimulants?
would it be ok to take yohimbe (bark powder) during the comedown?
What about aspirin?

is it advised to preload with dopamine precursors? I know l-tyrosine is mostly taken during the comedown from any stimulants.

my current regimen consists of:

preload for 1 week prior with - 5htp, multi-vitamins, aniracetam + alpha-gpc
prior to ingestion of mdxx - niacin and l-arginine
concurrent with ingestion of mdxx - magnesium chelate, calcium carbonate (tums)
during comedown (after last redose) - vitamin-C and l-tyrosine
postload for 1 week with: 5htp, multi-vitamins, aniracetam + alpha-gpc

what else would be a good addition? would clonezapem be advised for cushioning the comedown (instead of using cannabis)? Clonezapem relaxes the uretha, which might prove to be beneficial for certain vasoconstrictive side-effects.

 

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[pharma-sutra]

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[heerutosen]

Be carefull with yohimbe as it is a mild maoi

 

[pharma-sutra]

Be carefull with yohimbe as it is a mild maoi

would yohimbe be ok post-experience? or would be advised to not even to venture that route.

 

[heerutosen]

would yohimbe be ok post-experience? or would be advised to not even to venture that route.

Im not sure, so i can't give you a good answer.. To be safe atleast wait a couple days

 

[Folley]

would yohimbe be ok post-experience? or would be advised to not even to venture that route.

MAOIs are EXTREMELY dangerous when combined with MDMA. Wait as long as possible in between using the two.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

Yes serotonin syndrome is not fun, other than the MAOI I can't see any problems with the others.
However I would keep your usage to no more than once a month, I've heard bad things about people constantly supplementing with 5-htp to keep their rolls strong.
Some side effects I noted were anxiety and racing thoughts

 

[Dunno]

MAOIs are EXTREMELY dangerous when combined with MDMA. Wait as long as possible in between using the two.

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[Diloadid]

Yeah, I don't suggest the yohimbe. Once upon a time Neighorhood Threat suggest that taking niacin and l-tyrosine before a stimulant would help with the vasoconstriction.

I once had a large amount of amphetamine paste. The vasoconstriction from it was horrible, but the niacin and l-tyrosine helped tremendously.

I usually take Viagra if I know I'm going to experience a very sexual experience on MDMA.

 

[pharma-sutra]

How long should one wait in between using MAOIs and MDxx? And I assume it's also advised against using MAOIs (such as yohimbe) with classical stimulants (like dexamphetamine)? Or can you use them as a combo.

 

[Folley]

^As I said, as long as possible. If you can find the half lives of the drugs and calculate how long it takes until the dose is pharmacologically irrelevant you'd have a more exact answer


ANY monoamine releaser is dangerous with an MAOI, however.

 

[pharma-sutra]

ANY monoamine releaser is dangerous with an MAOI, however.

my apologies for not being well informed. so basically all recreational pyschostimulants are all in contraindiction... yikes. ive had multiple sessions on therapeutic doses of amp taken with yohimbe bark.

regarding the half lives and how long you should space each substance apart... i couldn't find a definite answer for the half life yohimbe bark extract. however for yohimbine hcl

has an elimination half-life of less than 1 hour, while an active metabolite, 11-hydroxy-yohimbine, has a half-life of about 6 hours

while elimination half life for d-amp is ~10-12 hrs. so i reckon maybe spacing out a couple days between the two would suffice? :/