Super Magic Happy Drink containing b. caapi and hawaiian baby woodrose bush

[queenscarlet88]

I'm thinking of grinding up maybe 8-10 hawaiian baby woodrose bush seeds (I tripped on 5 one time and it was a very //interesting// mind high, no hallucinations or anything, but EXTREMELY interesting mind high, just not very intense at all) and combining these with a b. caapi brew. I'm getting 4 ounces of b. caapi along with plentiful seeds.

I have distinct expectations for this trip, going into it. I will clarify my floating threads of novel ideas into a concrete, usable plan which I will use to write a novel in a month or less. I will create a new song in fruity loops. I will spend great quantities of time outdoors. And I will have a damned good time. I also have a lot of anxiety (weed-induced, and it lingers on even now that I've stopped smoking weed) which I'd like to clear up. Oh, and I'd like to become so physically beautiful as well as to captivate all whose paths I cross. You know, thought I might as well throw that into the wish list.

Seriously, I just want to have a great fucking trip, meet some spirit guides (I had some very cautious, terrifying interactions with "other entities" on salvia and I hope I can have some pleasant ones if I use a different substance), all that shit. Is 4 ounces of whole vine too little/too much/just right? Should I mix in the HBWR seeds at all or save those for another occasion? Also, what about yerba mate? I have some of that and I was reading online about how sometimes yerba mate is used in ayahuasca brews.

Many thanks for any help you can provide.

 

[PepperSocks]

It is possible that the caapi might potentiate the HBWR seeds, but it's not certain. It can add a certain element to the trip while not exactly making it stronger.

I'm not sure about dosages though.

 

[mecaib]

MAOIs potentiate most tryptamines, do they not? It seems to me you could go from having no effect to having too much. Then all there is left is to go with it....

It might be scary, or fantastic, or it might not work well at all. If you decide to go through with this, please look at Erowid's vault of b. caapi combinations:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Banisteriopsis_caapi_Combinations.shtml

It looks like there are some reports about combos with LSD. Since you'll be taking it with an LSA, those reports might give you an indication of what you might expect from your experience.

Good luck, I hope it turns out all right for you!

 

[PepperSocks]

yes MAOIs potentiate monoamines, tryptamines are monoamines. LSAs and LSD are ergoloids, not tryptamines, even though tryptamine is part of the structure. Ergoloids are amides, which may not be potentiated by MAOIs but they still add their own effect to the experience.

 

[mecaib]

Ah, ok. Good to know!

 

[queenscarlet88]

The practical result, then, would be of tripping on two different, distinct substances at once, right? Much like combining, say, weed and amphetamine; possibly synergistic interaction, possibly antagonistic interaction (both of which I've experienced with this combination, the use of which I thankfully have outgrown), but unlikely that the one would negate the other?

So the questions become:

a) does b. caapi have any psychoactive chemicals of its own, or does it merely potentiate the dmt-containing ingredient generally added to ayahuasca teas?
b) would b. caapi synergize well with hawaiian baby woodrose bush? since neither would potentiate the other, I'd basically have two different drug reactions occuring in my body at the same time, and more importantly, wrestling over my mind. would they play nicely, or would I be in for a dark fucking time?

Many of these questions, I can only answer for myself by actually doing the combination. I guess I just want to ascertain if there are any physiological dangers to such a combination, or if the ayahuasca made from just b. caapi might be the better choice for me to make. I'm somewhat of a tripping light-weight: fucked around with DXM a lot when I didn't know any better and didn't care about my health, have taken a total of 7 tabs that were called LSD but which I think were DOX, and have tripped on LSA a handful of times. Other than that, it's been pot and pills and alcohol, all three of which I've expelled from my life because they were ruining my body and my mind and because they were so goddamned fucking boring.