Summing it up: What we think we know about DMT entities (discussion)

[Zopiclone bandit]

The Shoe man of salvia space? Is this a common thread?

His turned up in several trips.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

However, few people ever seem to take that disbelief to its ultimate conclusion as a critique on all of reality, I guess because it's a step too far for most.

I agree 100% with you, it's why I've always been shocked people cannot grasp the words of Nisargadatta Maharaj, Anandamayi Ma etc. They made it simple to grasp & understand.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

At this point in my life I'm a nondualist, if you want to use a term. The universe is capable of producing anything at anytime. All of it is dream-like. It comes and goes.

I mean... you can have a dream tonight that you are flying on a giant owl in the sky. It will make perfect sense because... why not? There have always been giant owls, and you've always been doing this. It all gets taken for granted as real. Then the dream ends, you open your eyes, and this other place we call "the waking world" takes over. But it's all dream-like. It comes and goes. It's very real when it's happening but then it evaporates in the next moment. Only memory indicates that it was ever "here," but memory itself can only be experienced in the present, so memory itself is like a dream.

I used to be very into this entity stuff, and although I believe in spirits, entities and extramaterial phenomena in the relative sense, in the ultimate sense I don't care anymore. It's just illusion stacked upon illusion stacked upon illusion. It never brought me peace or truth.

I guess what I want to know is... why is it so important that these entities get validated as "real"? As I said above, all of apparent reality is dream-like. So validating one thing as real compared to another is like trying to separate a drop of water from the ocean and calling that more real than the rest of the ocean. It's all one thing. There is only one thing happening. It's just that certain objects in the apparent world trigger our disbelief more than others. However, few people ever seem to take that disbelief to its ultimate conclusion as a critique on all of reality, I guess because it's a step too far for most.

“Your expectation of something unique and dramatic, of some wonderful explosion, is merely hindering and delaying your Self Realization. You are not to expect an explosion, for the explosion has already happened - at the moment when you were born, when you realized yourself as Being-Knowing-Feeling. There is only one mistake you are making: you take the inner for the outer and the outer for the inner. What is in you, you take to be outside you and what is outside, you take to be in you. The mind and feelings are external, but you take them to be intimate. You believe the world to be objective, while it is entirely a projection of your psyche. That is the basic confusion and no new explosion will set it right! You have to think yourself out of it. There is no other way.”
― Nisargadatta Maharaj, I Am That: Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

 

[Foreigner]

“Your expectation of something unique and dramatic, of some wonderful explosion, is merely hindering and delaying your Self Realization. You are not to expect an explosion, for the explosion has already happened - at the moment when you were born, when you realized yourself as Being-Knowing-Feeling. There is only one mistake you are making: you take the inner for the outer and the outer for the inner. What is in you, you take to be outside you and what is outside, you take to be in you. The mind and feelings are external, but you take them to be intimate. You believe the world to be objective, while it is entirely a projection of your psyche. That is the basic confusion and no new explosion will set it right! You have to think yourself out of it. There is no other way.”
― Nisargadatta Maharaj, I Am That: Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

One of my fav quotes by him.

 

[4DQSAR]

For anyone who hasn't seen it, above is a link to an episode of 'The Clangers' and watching it again, that is EXACTLY how the 'machine elves' talked to me.

Believe it or not, the series was the work of a single person - Oliver Postgate. To the best of my knowledge he never touched any psychedelics. He was in his mid-40s when he created the series. As Spike Milligan noted of Picasso 'scientists believed his body produced it's own mescaline - THINK OF THE SAVINGS!'