Suicide thread, for assitance and support for all things related to suicide

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is it ok to kill myself if i truly cant stand living? i would hurt so many amazing people if i ended my life. but should i live an entire life for others? im not good enough for the one person ive given everything for, which i punish myself because of all the time by slicing my skin open and watching the blood flow. whats pathetic is in the strangers eye i am probably better now than i was 2 years ago. i garduated high school and got into college. i have a fair amount of friends. im still a virgin, but have at least gone semi far with girls. people think im a "cool guy". but none of that means shit. its all material bullshit. true happiness comes from within. and i have none. im not good enough. for my parents. for the person i love. for myself. i just ripped a scab off my leg just so i could watch myself bleed. god im such a pathetic mother fucker.

Is there anything in your life that you feel is worthwhile? There can be all sorts of cognitive distortions that made life seem unbearable. Any thoughts of worthlessness do not need to be taken seriously, they are just thoughts. If you can focus on and appreciate what you do have then the rest may feel less overwhelming.

True peace comes from within, as you mentioned This may take some patience and effort to achieve. Whether other people think you are good enough is not what ultimately matters. If you can develop a sense of worth that is independent of oters ten you may find that their opinions matter less t you.
 
i do appreciate what i have. i have a lot of problems in my life, but not nearly as much as others. i feel guilty over that sometimes. thats the only reason im still here. is because of all of the people in my life id hurt.
 
^Think I get how you feel Gerald. <3 It is an incentive to keep looking after yourself for the time being AND for the time being if it keeps you afloat then thats okay HOWEVER having a pervasive feeling or attitude of 'not being good enough, is something you need to challenge for yourself because you deserve to be there for yourself and not turn your anger inward.

I for one know how it feels to just not feel good enough. We are influenced by a lot of bullshit in Society at large and also on a smaller scale whether at home or within our own micro-cultural systems Gerald. We endure alot of pressure to live up to others expectations in an effort to avoid rejection and keep ourselves safe and merited on some level.
Some of us come to realise that we can not live alone for this reason- it really doesnt hold much meaning, humanity or depth. These things are 'illusions' for want of a better word, they do not sustain life and well-being.

Gerald, 'feeling not good enough' does not mean you are not good enough.
I used to get pissed off when people called me 'nice' and took me forgranted. Sometimes people dont understand us for who we really are, for the power we have. However, this can be a real asset, being non-threatening to others means that alot of people will feel comfortable with you however you need to work on asserting yourself too if you need to...perhaps you need to get angry with the things in life that are taking you forgranted? Maybe you are discovering now that you are expending your energies on things that really arent giving alot back to you? Either way these are all behaviours that you can change. It is totally within your power to do this if you wish to hun. Maybe you need to know for yourself -who you really are, instead of letting others decide that for you?
Nobody is just 'cool' or 'nice'- human beings have many and varied facets to their who they really are and to think otherwise is naive of anyone who stereotypes someone in these little limiting characters.
If you need to be yourself Gerald be yourself, if you feel you are limited by the way your life is going at the moment you can change it. You can get angry at life too you know- life/society can and is a heap of shit! Thats not to say that there aren't many healing and good things to life and people.:)

The most important thing is to look after your own relationship with yourself. have you looked for Therapy/? An enlightened Therapist can really help you build your esteem and help you to re-inforce that inner strength that is already there.

You are good enough as you are mate, you may have flaws(like all on this planet!) and being cruel to yourself because of this is not fair to yourself and you do not deserve to be treated that way. <3

Look after yourself hun and please feel free to pm me if you want
 
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So...it's one of those nights, and I'm back on this thread. First off, I've been reading the posts above, and I feel empathy for everyone in this thread. I've struggled with thoughts of suicide since I was in my late teens, with one serious attempt - now I'm 36, and in a mess, professionally, financially (which keeps me in a job I hate), and with benzo addiction. My tolerance reached the point where I started throwing in some seroquel to get to sleep, and modafinil or MPA to get moving in the morning - it's impossible to imagine living drug-free, and I feel I've fucked up so many opportunities that sometimes I can't forgive myself. A few weeks back, I had a dark experience with Methoxetamine and 4-meo-pcp that had me calculating LD50s and whether my 'scripts, combined, would do the job...but I was partly raised by a grandmother who killed herself, and even though she was 83, it's haunted and damaged me to the point that I know, while I have living relatives, I just don't have the option. Too many friends as well who'd lose months to grieving...and one who's told me she's not sure she could carry on herself if I don't. I score off the charts for major depressive disorder, generalised anxiety and have been an addict/alkie since I was 15...brief flashes of happiness in relationships that turned to shit, and now I wonder if I'm coming close to a point of no return...

I know that I may still be suffering PAWS, as well (three months clean), and my neurotransmitters just can't experience pleasure for very long. I don't know if I can do my job, pay my debts, deal with everything I have to deal with. But...fuck it. I'm going to try. I don't know if I can forgive the past, or face the future: but I won't do to others what my grandma did to me, leaving me wondering for 14 years about her last moments, about whether I could have done something to stop her if I hadn't been too busy with girlfriends and partying. I'm typing this at what used to be her desk, one of the few things she managed to get out of Romania during WWII - we're Jewish, and the Nazi puppet government was sweeping the area, her folks bribed the right people, they got out. I remind myself every day that whether you're an atheist or psychedelic mystic, a true believer in an organised religion or none of the above, on some level, don't we all sense, at least sometimes, that all things are connected, all is one? Maybe that's just down to raw physics: there are other ways of looking at it.

But if we give in to the urge to self-destruct, I do believe it's a loss that effects - and affects - everything. I haven't had 'a good day' this whole year, haven't felt pleasure or a sense of peace for so long that I don't remember what they're like: but still, even if for no reason that I can name, I know I must remain alive as long as I can. I had to write that, tonight, in a public forum, because I'm trapped in a job/apartment/life I hate...but fuck it. No. I'm not giving up. I don't really know why: but whatever pain may come, I won't be my grandmother (of blessed memory, as we say in Hebrew), because the damage done to the fabric of the universe that each and everyone of us contributes to was too great. Because when there's still breath, there's still hope: even if only as an abstract idea, and because there are places, such as this, where strangers can share our howls of pain.

Forgive the long and rambling posts: and, all of you, keep breathing. Things get better: things get worse, but let's not cross over to the void or whatever else subsists beyond this consciousness until we have to. After all, even the coldest of empiricists has to accept that alocal causality is a real possibility - and we do not know what might be torn apart by our own self-destruction.

So fuck it - keep breathing, even and especially when it hurts most. There is every reason, there is none, and that same alocal causin' might bring riches of happiness and hope that none of us can imagine. We are human beings, low and high, strong and weak, pointless and purposeful. Embrace the contradictions, blow a raspberry at the void, and gentile or Jew, raise a glass of something if you're drinking, and even - most of all, if it feels like a lie - toast 'L'Chaim'. 'To Life', because it hurts and hates and loves and gives and takes, and there's no way of knowing if the nothingness that lies beyond is nothingness at all, better, worse, or unimaginable. Let's make suicide our enemy and hold the line. There's reality beyond the pain, and pain beyond reality. Let's live with them both.

So goes this bird-brain's verdict on the universe and staying in it. Fuck it. Why not? David Foster Wallace should have listened to his own words: 'no single moment is in and of itself unendurable.' And anyone who has the nerve to post in this thread, to admit their own pain, is a whole lot stronger and more worthwhile than we think at our worst moments.

'Don't let them have their way/don't let them have their way/you're beautiful and so blase/so please don't let them have their way/don't fall back into the decay/there is no law we must obey/so please don't let them have their way/don't give in to yesterday/don't fall back into the decay/We can build a new tomorrow...today' - Placebo.

One foot in front of the other. Let's all keep breathing and dance until the music stops. Most of all when it hurts most.
 
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Great post Where Wolf, thank you <3
In my darkest hours, sometimes the only thing making me hold on to life a bit longer is the thought of how my death would affect my friends and family. Like you, I too had a family member (my Dad's brother) commit suicide and while I wasn't born yet and it therefore didn't affect me directly, I still see how it has negatively affected my Dad's life all these 35 years later. It's a pain that will never leave him, and I absolutely could not put him though that again. And hey, if sometimes that's all I've got to hold on to, then that is better than nothing.

The most important thing for everyone in this thread to remember is, like you said Where Wolf, things get worse sometimes, sure. But things always get better as well, so it's worth holding on <3
 
I understand if I decide to leave, it will end up hurting some people. But will that hurt be more then constant disappointment and current pain caused from me continuing to go to drugs?

I Just finished school w/ a 3.9 so I know I have it in me to do good. But I always seem to find myself back on opiates and steeling from my family and selling all of my possessions since I can't afford my habit with my current job.

I'm just in a miserable spot atm and it's very tough for me to get out specially in active addiction.
 
so just before christmas of 2009 i had a close friend of mine pass away due to drugs, mixing large amounts of xanax with oxycontin. he was a hell of a guy, i had known him since 3rd grade, he had tons of friends who all loved him and he loved them as well so it was a tough time for all of us.

about 3 months after he died another friend of mine committed suicide by hanging himself from a tree in the neighborhood we grew up in. this guy i had also known since elementary and was friends with all the same people as the first guy. i have never felt grief from his death as i think he largely acted on jealously or envy towards the way people so heavily grieved our other friend. in fact i have honestly felt nothing but contempt and it bothers me. here's somebody i was friends with basically my entire life who had the same issues with addiction that i have had yet i feel no compassion. more than anything i am disgusted by the selfishness which, again, i feel i should be able to relate to on some level.

has anyone else ever dealt with a scenario such as this?
 
jonjon- Addiction does not have to be permanent. While you are there now, you don't have to "cause disappointment" in others by going back to it. You have to decide if addiction is a part of your life that is worth keeping. If it brings you unhappiness, and others unhappiness- why hang onto it? You have to be the one to make the change, but MANY MANY people overcome addiction. YOU can as well.
Suicide is not the answer. You would be giving yourself and end, when you could be giving yourself a beginning. <3

yuhhh- I understand where you are coming from.
It sounds like the stage of grief that is anger <3
Or even indifference........
One of my friends I often wonder if they had done it on purpose.....it bothers me but more than anything I feel sad.
Sad he didn't see the possibilities life offers us, just sad......
Try to see all sides of the situation- but everyone handles death differently and whatever way you handle it, as long as it isn't self destructive, is okay <3
 
Don't have much to offer, but hugs to any and all who want them.

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I would like this in the suicide thread please.

I really need to know how I can get some kind of effective treatment for my GAD AADHD & manic depression. I fell and hit my head a few weeks ago and I sustained a moderate concussion. I am broke. I have no money to see a doctor, no medicaid. nada. I think ultimately my brain will likely heal anyway. The concussion symptoms are slowly but surely subsiding. And the physical part I can deal with honestly. The physical pain is nothing. What bothers me most is I've developed manic depression since, and I can't bear these thoughts of constantly wanting to die. I wasn't exactly stable before my concussion. It's just much worse now. And it doesn't help that I feel like I'm completely worthless as it is.

IDK what to do :(
 
^I hope so too.
Where Wolf.....how are you doin'?

Thanks for asking, Ocean - much better. Made it through the week, and while still overwhelmed by work and the need to act 'normal' - or as normal as colleagues expect me to be - I have been getting through the days. Talked things through with some friends, and am resolved to try and dig myself out of this pit, whatever it takes.

Wish I hadn't woken up at 5.30am on a Sunday, though. Hoping to get just a little more sleep before I face the inevitable and get back to work.

Even managed to get by yesterday with only 2mgs Etizolam and a big dose of Neurontin - think the latter really does help with benzo dependency/withdrawal.

Hugs and blessings to everyone - keep breathing.

Wolf XX
 
If I could die right now, no one would know.

If I had the nerve to kill myself my pain will be over. I have accumulated over 30 something years of depression and chronic pain.

I have yo-yo myself through life and to tell you the truth I am TIRED. I have no one in my life, not a single soul that I can talk to or confide in. I am trying to get help but my insurance is screwing me around which is making it more difficult and stressful and my dick of a boss is ready to fire me.

so what is the point anymore? I don't have the nerve or the desire to kill myself. But, if it all ended it wouldn't matter to me one bit.
 
If I could die right now, no one would know.

If I had the nerve to kill myself my pain will be over. I have accumulated over 30 something years of depression and chronic pain.

I have yo-yo myself through life and to tell you the truth I am TIRED. I have no one in my life, not a single soul that I can talk to or confide in. I am trying to get help but my insurance is screwing me around which is making it more difficult and stressful and my dick of a boss is ready to fire me.

so what is the point anymore? I don't have the nerve or the desire to kill myself. But, if it all ended it wouldn't matter to me one bit.
I am feeling this way too. Except idk where to get help because i got no insurance and no money. :(

shoot me a PM if you wanna talk more :(
 
I would like this in the suicide thread please.

I really need to know how I can get some kind of effective treatment for my GAD AADHD & manic depression. I fell and hit my head a few weeks ago and I sustained a moderate concussion. I am broke. I have no money to see a doctor, no medicaid. nada. I think ultimately my brain will likely heal anyway. The concussion symptoms are slowly but surely subsiding. And the physical part I can deal with honestly. The physical pain is nothing. What bothers me most is I've developed manic depression since, and I can't bear these thoughts of constantly wanting to die. I wasn't exactly stable before my concussion. It's just much worse now. And it doesn't help that I feel like I'm completely worthless as it is.

IDK what to do :(

Anon TDS >>> TDS Suicide Thread
 
needhelp,

if you are in N america, you can go to the ER and be mailed bills which shouldnt go on your credit if left un paid, kind of shitty but dude, things like this are important and shouldnt be left ignored because of money or much any reason.

going to a clinic with a sliding scale system, you will most likely have to see a specialist out side of their office at another time, which you will need to pay as they are a private practice. or, your doc may send you to the hospital, and from there maybe another out side sourced specialist...
so going to the ER as is, and explaining what is happening will be your best bet, and sounds needed - they will not turn you around, or send you to collections, and i seriously doubt they would assume anything negative of you at all going in with such complaints.

these things are important, and well our brains swell upon moderate or greater dehydration, but this can start a domino type affect which may take months to become undeniable and apparent to you, or others you interact with regularly.
have you seen any flashes of light, any nausea, dizzy spells, black spots in your vision, or blank black shapes in your peripheral vision? if so id go right now if possible, and they would be very happy you did too.


consider and weigh the risks and benefits here.
 
soooo seriously when is it time to just give up?

I have posted in here a few times now and sooo some people may know that my life is really just a fucking mess. I'm really seriously starting to make plans to end it. Only problem is I have picked a nice, pleasant & painless method but getting the required materials is proving more difficult than I first expected! very frustrating :(.

Like I do not believe I am fixable at all, and I'm now just so fucking tired all the time that I have no motivation at all to even try. I am stuck in this house with my parents cus I have no job, no money and nowhere else to go. I can tell they resent my presence here, my mum truly hates me I think. My sister is visiting this week and WOW how she acts to her, you can tell she is head over heels. With me, you can tell shes thinking 'fuck off out of my life'.

She has stated that to me on many, many occasions. It may not have been the best idea for right now giving my mental state but I was tripping the other day in the park and all was good. When I came home towards the end of the trip, as soon as I stepped through this door... its hard to describe just the sheer 'negative energy' of the household nearly killed me. I have lived in this house for most of my life and I realised its almost as if this house is cursed, like there is no happiness here.

Also, I went to a psychiatrist and he said I have symptoms of a particular personality disorder and blah blah blah they think CBT would help me. I don't even agree with their diagnoses at all, but when I was reading about it, the article basically said that although some people with this come forward for treatment, the treatment almost never works. It's all bullshit. I don't think I even have it, I think the guy just thought I was a bit 'odd' and didn't know what else to say lol.

I was thinking of going to australia for a year on a working holiday visa, a very close friend of mine has just gone, and is begging me to join him. But I know that wouldn't work out, I am miserable as fuck here, and I would be miserable as fuck there. I mess up EVERYTHING that I touch so I would never be delusional enough to believe it would be any different there.

Sorry for my rant, but yeah...
 
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