Opioids Suggested dosage for Hydro -> DHC

[argonaut720]

Hi.

I've previously taken 10-15mg hydro on several occasions and 10mg of oxy on a few occasions and felt pretty good at those dosages (new to opiates, so no tolerance). I've gotten my hands on some 120mg IR DHC tabs and was wondering what would be a good suggested first dosage to get the equivalent effects of 10-15mg of hydro and what would be a good 'step up' dosage to feel the effects much stronger, while still remaining "safe". I've heard that 60mg of DHC = 10mg of hydro, so if that formula stands true, then I suppose I could take half a pill for starters. Or should I opt for 90mg or 120mg? I don't have an unlimited supply and would like to make the most efficient usage of what I have.

I've also heard that DHC can bind you up pretty good and was wondering what recommendations folks might have at dealing with this proactively?


Thanks.

 

[tomatalli]

Hydro is roughly 6 times the strength oF dihydrocodone. So take 50-60 mg because you won't be completely cross tolerant.

 

[argonaut720]

Thanks for the confirmation, tomatalli.

I just realized, however, that these are the 'Continuous Release' pills and not instant release. From my research, that means less of that euphoric kick. Has anyone had success in getting rid of the time-release component in these types of pills? I've read so many different things about how to remove the time-release mechanism (the waxy substance) from the DHC and I'm not sure what the most successful is.

I've read about:
- Dissolving in warm coca cola
- Gently sucking on the pills
- Plugging
- Boiling them in water

Not sure if I just start a whole new thread about this topic in particular? I couldn't find a dedicated thread about this.

 

[trip407]

I only had Mundiphama DHC Continuous 120mg. The time release mechanism is not very hard to break up. For me it was enough to crush them thorougly or chew on them (very bitter ;-). If you dissolve them in some kind of liquid probably boiling them, this should be more efficient. DHC is very itchy and in my opinion 120mg should be good starting dose. DHC is some nice high if you have a low tolerance. Its long lasting and comparably euphoric for its low potency. Its much better then tramadol or codeine.

 

[argonaut720]

I've found some more information on defeating the time release in the DHC CR (continuous release) tabs - based on my research, the best method seems to be crushing the pills with a pill crusher or mortar & pestle, using about or teaspoon or so of baking soda to help separate the DHC from the waxy substance even further. I'm going to give that a go and try 60mg at first since that should be equivalent to 10mg of hydro.

I did have another question for folks, though... I've read most every thread on DHC there is and while everyone says that DHC isn't as strong as the other opiates out there, I wonder how different is the high? mg for mg, I realize DHC is weaker than oxycodone or hydrocodone based on the equivalency charts - but is the high from an equivalent amount of DHC that much less than a high from oxy or hydro? If I'm feeling great off of 20mg of hydrocodone, then shouldn't 120mg of DHC make me feel just as great or is the high still not as good, qualitatively? I'm interested to hear other's people opinions. I'll post mine after I have some more experience with the DHC.

 

[argonaut720]

I went with 100mg as my starting dose. 40mg IR + 60mg ER. The experience was ok...not a bad high, but not as good as my experiences with 15mg hydro or 10mg of oxy. It wasn't as sedate as with either of those pills, but I did feel good. The worst part was the dizziness/nausea/cold sweats I experienced about 12 hours after I took the pills. I wrote up a trip report folks can read here if they're interested.