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RCs Sudden Cardiac Arrest After a 140mg Dose of bk-2C-B: a Case Report

madmoomix

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On May 9th, 2015, a 25 year old healthy male experienced seizures and sudden cardiac arrest after consuming 140mg of bk-2C-B and 0.25g of cannabis. The subject had never experienced a seizure or cardiac incident before, and has no heart condition. This was the 116th separate recreational drug he had taken.

"I was visiting my father at his house during the day on Saturday. The last thing I remember is getting ready to leave to visit my girlfriend (around 6:30pm). I came to in the cardiac unit of HCMC hospital (Minneapolis, Minnesota) on Tuesday, May 12th at 4:00pm. I had been awake for two days before this, but I lack all memory of this time."

What follows is a report compiled from my girlfriend (who called 911), EMTs, doctors, and my father.

I arrived at my girlfriend's house at 8:30pm on May 9th. We smoked a bowl of cannabis, watched Scrubs, and had sex. Around 10:00 pm, I took 140mg of bk-2C-B, and my girlfriend took 120mg. It was the first time either of us had taken the drug. 20 minutes later, I mentioned to her how strong it was (in a positive manner). 35 minutes after consumption, I started projectile vomiting in her room. 45 minutes after consumption, I had my first seizure (partial temporal lobe, not grand mal). My girlfriend immediately began to contact emergency services (she was hallucinating too much to dial 911, so she got someone else in the house to dial). 55 minutes after consumption, I had my second seizure and became unresponsive. Police and EMTs arrived within 3 minutes of my collapse. The arriving officer and two EMTs stabilized me and loaded me on a stretcher as the other two officers questioned the residents in the house.

It took 10-15 minutes to arrive at the hospital (I am unclear on the exact timing of this part). 12 minutes after arrival, I went into cardiac arrest. They used a Lucas chest compression machine for 3 minutes while applying several shocks with a AED. After three minutes, I experienced return of spontaneous circulation and I was no longer in cardiac arrest. I had not resumed consciousness, so I was intubated, given a cooling catheter in a femoral vein, and started on targeted temperature management at 1:30am on May 10th. (This used to be known as therapeutic hypothermia.) I achieved a 91°F temperature in 4 hours, was kept at that level for 8 hours, then was slowly brought back up to 98.4°F (my resting temperature at the time) over 12 hours. I had regained consciousness by the end of this procedure at 1:30am on May 11th.

I was kept in the cardiac unit until May 13th, when I was moved to general care (where I am right now writing this).

I had a million tests done, because of the rarity of a 25 year old experience cardiac arrest, and my worries that I had revealed an underlying heart condition.

My tox screen came back negative for everything except cannabis. Followup GC/MS confirmed bk-2C-B in my system.

I had an transthoracic echocardiogram performed on May 12th. It was negative for all cardiomyopathies and valve abnormalities. I had normal ejection fractions, no WPW, no blocked arteries, no takotsubo issues.

I arrived at the hospital with a lower than normal body temperature, which absolutely rules out serotonin syndrome (this was confirmed later with tests).

I had the most severe case of rhabdomyolysis that my doctors had ever seen. A normal creatine kinase level is 40, mine was over 200,000.

My doctors are not willing to go on record with this statement, due to the rarity of the substance, but they all believe bk-2C-B is innately cardiotoxic in the same manner as cocaine and amphetamines. They believe my cardiac arrest was purely chemically driven, with no prior conditions to exacerbate matters.

I do not believe that bk-2C-B is dangerous, however I do believe it is not as safe as other psychedelics. As mild as the reported effects are for most people, I cannot recommend that people consume it when other psychedelics are available.
 
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Wow that's fucking intense. I was also hospitalized after a scary experience with an RC. Luckily not such a serious incident.

It sounds like you took far too much, I'm not versed in this particular member of the 2-x family but most of the dosages are really low. 15 mg of 2c-e blew my stockings right off.

Glad your OK and maybe take it easy on the stims for awhile.
 
OP did this happen to you or are you copying/pasting someone else's story?
 
Im sorry for whoever this happened to but am glad their okay. I havent been a fan of 2c family analogues ever since those nbomes started popping up everywhere. From my little knowledge of the drug it seems there must have been something else gojng on. 140mg doesnt seem that high of a dose. Im think 2 things: either A. it was contaminated by a more potent rc or mislabeled, but it was similar enough for them not to notice the difference or completely missed in the GC/MS. Or B. Underlying condition that they missed.

On a lighter note, "This was the 116th separate recreational drug he had taken." Hahaha what kinda ocd maniac counts how many timea theyve taken drugs. Is this including alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine?
 
I'm glad that you or whoever experienced this is OK. I personally never fucked with any RCs, unless you count LSD which was originally an RC decades ago before most people took it.
 
I'll never understand why people take high doses of a drug they have never tried before. Ever heard of allergy testing?

Hope the person in the story is okay.
 
If anyone young has a heart attack theyre going to put u under the magnifying glass and whatever u take (could even be vitamin C) they will say "Thats the cause.." and point the finger.

This same thing happens with steroids all the time...
 
It happened to me. I lack all memory of the incident itself, so I'm mixing sources of info for this report. The quote part is my actual memory, the non-quote is what I've been told happened.

Doing a drug count is always fascinating. Yes, it includes caffeine, nicotine, and alcohol. Anything psychoactive (aspirin doesn't count, pot does, etc.).
 
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I'm sorry to hear that this happened but very glad that you're okay.

I had a difficult experience with around 60mg of βk-2C-B as well. This was while experimenting with lower doses after several successful trials with larger doses (120-150mg). It was probably 8-10 hours into the experience. I had just ruined my dinner while cooking when I suddenly started sweating profusely and having difficulty breathing. I attributed it to a combination of over-indulging in MXE (I was a daily user with considerable tolerance but had probably taken close to 200mg over the course of the day) and a panic reaction. I don't really remember how long it lasted, but I ended up destroying the last of my MXE and probably took several milligrams of etizolam to calm down before taking a cold shower and going to sleep. Your story makes me wonder if the βk-2C-B was actually the culprit all along.

How certain are you of your dose? Is there any possibility that you took drastically more βk-2C-B than you thought?
 
If anyone young has a heart attack theyre going to put u under the magnifying glass and whatever u take (could even be vitamin C) they will say "Thats the cause.." and point the finger.

This same thing happens with steroids all the time...

Are you fucking serious?

The reason they do this is because both steroids and stimulants increase your risk of heart disease. And high blood pressure, and a slew of other shit.

Most illicit drugs have less than favorable side effects when taken with unregulated frequency. Even more so with RCs no one has any idea what is actually happening beyond inference.

We all like drugs but let's stop pretending they're all sunshine and blowjobs.
 
I'm glad that you or whoever experienced this is OK. I personally never fucked with any RCs, unless you count LSD which was originally an RC decades ago before most people took it.



Same here man.......I've taken LSD, but that was after decades of other people doing it.

No way will I be a guniea pig for RC's, I have read too many horror stories like the OP's above to even think about trying one.
 
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I had the most severe case of rhabdomyolysis that my doctors had ever seen.

My doctors are not willing to go on record with this statement, due to the rarity of the substance, but they all believe bk-2C-B is innately cardiotoxic in the same manner as cocaine and amphetamines.

I do not believe that bk-2C-B is dangerous, however I do believe it is not as safe as other psychedelics. As mild as the reported effects are for most people, I cannot recommend that people consume it when other psychedelics are available.


Sorry about your heart attack bro, hope you get well and make a full recovery, but I mean.....shit.

I just really wish people weren't this niave/stupid/whatever the fuck you wanna call it that something fucks you up THIS MUCH ( ) but it's still "not bad/dangerous".

Lol, i'd hate to find out exactly what your definition of "bad" is!

The moral here; stick to OLD DRUGS that have been tried/tested and PROVEN.
And know you're source, and their source, and their source...

P.S. when your buying hard drugs, kids, powders, liquids, blotters, etc.....you CAN NOT be too careful with any method you use to ensure you're getting the real deal, and that it's pure in a health sence, that it doesn't have any rat poision or beaner piss in it, eh?

P.P.S research chemicals are stupid.
 
Are you fucking serious?

The reason they do this is because both steroids and stimulants increase your risk of heart disease. And high blood pressure, and a slew of other shit.

Most illicit drugs have less than favorable side effects when taken with unregulated frequency. Even more so with RCs no one has any idea what is actually happening beyond inference.

We all like drugs but let's stop pretending they're all sunshine and blowjobs.

This^.

Hell, even most OTC drugs are, frankly, dangerous as shit!

(especially if you don't follow instrucitons)

We need drug education for grade schoolers, not propaganda, just facts for the morons that DO think drugs are all sunshine and blowjobs, lol great phrase.
 
Glad you're okay and thanks for the incident report. A few questions tho:

This was the 116th separate recreational drug he had taken.

lolwut? Are you like a Pokemon collector; gotta get 'em all? I take it you've done a shitload of RCs?

"I do not believe that bk-2C-B is dangerous"

You had 2 seizures and a heart attack. With nothing else in your system. At 25. You'd better hope it is dangerous, otherwise you're looking at a possible congenital defect (or took a diff drug, or way more than 140mg)). Rhabdomyolysis? jfc man.

Any chance you took something like a MAOI that caused this problem?
 
This^.

Hell, even most OTC drugs are, frankly, dangerous as shit!

(especially if you don't follow instrucitons)

We need drug education for grade schoolers, not propaganda, just facts for the morons that DO think drugs are all sunshine and blowjobs, lol great phrase.

The issue with drug education in schools is it introduces the concept to people who'd never think of, and are better off without drugs. RCs aren't 100% evil, and to see them as so is unfair. It is merely the fact that you're treading in uncharted waters, and therefore extreme caution and prior research is necessary. It is worth noting that everyone's mileage may vary, and while you may detest synths some may never have a bad experience or side effect from them.
 
On May 9th, 2015, a 25 year old healthy male experienced seizures and sudden cardiac arrest after consuming 140mg of bk-2C-B and 0.25g of cannabis. The subject had never experienced a seizure or cardiac incident before, and has no heart condition. This was the 116th separate recreational drug he had taken.
recommend that people consume it when other psychedelics are available.

Did you test it as pure bk-2cb and did you allergy dose first? Besides of that thanks for the story and I hope you are well.
 
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