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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Success stories from Meth. Anyone genuinely think Meth has improved their life?

@Burnt Offerings yea for sure. In Boston it was known that you could find Methamphetamine in the gay subculture. I remember I worked with a guy at a restaurant while I was in High School/College who was gay and said he had used it, though I only knew the guy for a span of a few weeks before he disappeared from the job, could Meth have been involved???

I used a lot of Amphetamine tablets when I was in High School and College as well. I remember as a prescription drug, they were relatively cheap actually. I can't list prices obviously, though I'd say going by averages, they were 1/10th the price I commonly see them go for now (the same is also true for Benzodiazepines, once extremely cheap, now fairly rare and expensive). The issue was more availability than price. When someone was out, they were out and there wasn't necessarily a place to just get more. I've been involved with Bluelight and learning about drugs since my early years and I knew about Methamphetamine from an "academic" standpoint, though had never seen or used it.

As someone who was using stimulants "for school" (this was a dubious suggestion, but it's what I had in my head) I didn't want to smoke Crack or use Cocaine. I was looking for something with a sustained duration and a more functional character. I thought if I could buy a gram of Methamphetamine, twice as potent as Amphetamine for a pittance, I would never have to buy Adderall again. It's funny how we tell ourselves how certain drugs or quantities of drugs will erase our problems. A gram of Methamphetamine was just a mistake waiting to happen to whomever made this assumption.

I remember 10-12 years ago, I had to take a Greyhoud from Chicago to Boston. I met some kids in New York who I was hanging out with and they had gotten Meth in the city. I remember I was actually pretty stunned. Now it's everywhere.

I always assumed that Methamphetamine wasn't prevalent in my area due to the previously established markets and relationships along the supply chain meant various people had reasons not to bring Methamphetamine in. I am not an economist or anything, though I have some basic assumptions about what has happened with Meth recently. I think it's extremely cheap, but I also think it is too potent and that it's easy for supply of a synthetic drug like that to outstretch demand. Again, if $20 of Meth can get a naive user high for 48 hours, a $20 rock of Crack Cocaine will get that same naive user high for at most an hour or two depending on how they use it. Also, we know Crack users can spend a seemingly unlimited amount of money on the drug.

I've heard of Meth addicts injecting grams of Meth at a time. This has to be near some kind of upper limit and for a user with connections and buying in bulk, they're probably not going to be spending more than $50-$70 or so i would imagine.

Interesting reading that I found recently was talking about the Australian "Heroin Drought" of the early 00's. Australia claims this was due to interdiction efforts of course. The findings of this research points to a massive glut of Heroin from Southeast Asia in the preceding decade in which Australia was struggling greatly with Heroin addiction. It's now believed that this was just the result of a massive glut of Heroin that brought the price to unprofitable levels, requiring the cartels to adjust their business model somehow.

We are used to globalized business and I think we forget that industries like drug trafficking are inherently going to be behind the times in terms of how easily the business can be conducted. This leads to a process of years in between these gluts and droughts that make the trends and causes difficult to understand for the end markets involved.

Second fun fact from the same article, this one blew my fucking mind, as I thought I knew everything.

So, leading up to our North American "Heroin Epidemic" which was taking shape in the 00's and really crashing around 06' the majority of Heroin was coming from Colombia, the figures varied, but as much as 60% of the supply of US Heroin was coming from Colombia, with another ~25% coming from Mexico. We were receiving practically nil in terms of Heroin from Afghanistan, the often-touted largest producer of the time. So, not from the Golden Triangle or the Golden Crescent... Colombia and Mexico. Not only that, Colombian Heroin was found to be the purest Heroin available for purchase most of the time.

I had ALWAYS been under the impression that we were getting our Heroin from Afghanistan. It was always discussed how the War on Terror and such contributed to our problem, when in reality it seems like the same people were doing both Cocaine and Heroin. My mind was really blown. Sorry for the tangent. I just had to share this.
 
I have been a daily user for seven years now. I'm 43 years old, still have all my teeth, and people always guess my age to be early 30s. I work for a government agency, and have held this job for six years. My first year at the job was also my last year of college-I graduated with a bachelor of science degree. I live alone, and live comfortably on a single income. I wouldn't say my life is better on meth, but I don't feel I have had any detrimental effects from it. My tolerance has increased, and I now use about two grams per day. I mostly snort it, and do one IV shot per day on average. I am scared that if I were to quit, I would gain an outrageous amount of weight, which is probably the only negative effect I would list.
 
Yes. I am able to see things from lots of different perspectives now. I am more interested in things as to where before I wasn’t at all I did nothing I wasn’t really interested in doing anything at all nor would I even try to.I met lots of good ppl too who are way different and more fun then ppl who dont. I started my own business too if I weren’t on it I would have just stayed stuck and unhappy working for my parents businesses and doing what they had planned or set up for me so to speak. It keeps me thin and I can eat whatever I want :) I love it and I would have it any other way at all. It also allows me to speak up to ppl like my parents ect when they are doing things with my or in my name or involving me in situations or trying to take control and hide things that they are doing that’s illegal. It doesn’t phase me anymore in fact I put it out there for the world to see and inform every bank and establishment they have done stuff with using my name or have used my name of what they were doing and point out that my forges checks and answers her phone saying she is me. Been using for 22years and i look better and younger then ppl I’ve grown up with.
 
Yes. I am able to see things from lots of different perspectives now. I am more interested in things as to where before I wasn’t at all I did nothing I wasn’t really interested in doing anything at all nor would I even try to.I met lots of good ppl too who are way different and more fun then ppl who dont. I started my own business too if I weren’t on it I would have just stayed stuck and unhappy working for my parents businesses and doing what they had planned or set up for me so to speak. It keeps me thin and I can eat whatever I want :) I love it and I would have it any other way at all. It also allows me to speak up to ppl like my parents ect when they are doing things with my or in my name or involving me in situations or trying to take control and hide things that they are doing that’s illegal. It doesn’t phase me anymore in fact I put it out there for the world to see and inform every bank and establishment they have done stuff with using my name or have used my name of what they were doing and point out that my forges checks and answers her phone saying she is me. Been using for 22years and i look better and younger then ppl I’ve grown up with.

Daily use?

And for how long have you been doing it?
 
My uncle used to tell me that he did meth in high school and bc of his ADD it actually helped him focus and do better in school and his grades improved. When I asked my mom about this, she said hell no that wasn’t true at all and that he was smoked out lmao

It's possible that your uncle did both, used a bit fir school and used more after hours to get blitzed.

That just goes to show how we can be guilty of bias in these things. I was reading through your post and I laughed, as this is exactly opposite to how I have always felt about Opioids and Methamphetamine. A lot of people know I'm a New England native and we never had Methamphetamine here, even in Metro Boston it was pretty much unheard of in favor of Cocaine products.

My experience with Methamphetamine doesn't involve really, any chronic users. Everyone here who you see strung out specifically on Methamphetamine, never used it prior to 5+ years ago. When Methamphetamine hit, it took a lot of people who had been on the periphery of rock bottom but still functioning, straight to hell. I'm talking about the guys who are maybe homeless, maybe in section 8, maybe panhandling for money, who generally are just drunks and ne'er do wells who maybe do some drugs every now and then. These people I'm talking about were unemployed and at that point in their lives not doing anything for society, sure, but they were also managing to shower, clean their clothes and do the basics of functional living.

A lot of these people who were "functioning" for years are now full Meth Ghouls. I don't want to be insulting to people who use Meth. I've looked, smelled and acted like shit in my life before too as a result of my addictions. No judgement. It's just the best way of describing them. They're out all day and all night, collecting trash, talking to themselves, emaciated and dirty, rotten teeth etc. These were people I assumed were going to be drinking beers in City Hall Park until they got old, as they were able to maintain it for years previously

My idea is that maybe the drugs came into our society without any kind of previous generation to actually instruct people how to use it. I know this might sound crazy to a lot of people. I know Meth addiction is not something that can be vaccinated against by a solid educational program. I do think there are probably some key takeaways to understand. I'm not a Meth user, but I have used it and I know that when I have, I used waaaayy too much. It's hard for someone raised in my environment to understand how potent a $20 quantity of a drug can be.

I know that when I began using Opioids, there had been people using Heroin in my community for generations. I understand that for a long time, Opioid addiction was primarily only found on the coasts, with New York City being the epicenter of all of it. Boston is fairly close and as far as I can tell, Heroin has been a thing here for longer than anyone can say. I had people who were experienced users who explained things to new users like what getting sick is about, how to inject, the golden rule of always having some for the morning... that sort of thing. Things that are essential for navigating life as a user.

The whole situation here in Burlington strikes me as people getting their hands on the drug without really understanding all of the potential pitfalls of use. I know I made these mistakes when I had used the drug.

But yea, I would have said the complete opposite. Opioids are healthy and a great tonic for the soul. Methamphetamine is poisonous and leads to inevitable insanity. I don't know, we probably both have some truth in our experiences.

Meth'/chronic stimulant user's need to learn to drink isotonic drinks and sugar-free chew gum.
The drinks will keep their blood sugar up and electrolyte levels stable, which will reduce mood swings and slow down the chances if psychosis/hallucinations.
Plus it'll keep their month moist along with sugar-free gum which will help cut down tooth damage, as a dry mouth speeds up tooth damage.

I was surprised you didn't know that at it's peak less than 2% of 'Heroin' in the US was coming from Afghanistan.
 
Yes. I am able to see things from lots of different perspectives now. I am more interested in things as to where before I wasn’t at all I did nothing I wasn’t really interested in doing anything at all nor would I even try to.I met lots of good ppl too who are way different and more fun then ppl who dont. I started my own business too if I weren’t on it I would have just stayed stuck and unhappy working for my parents businesses and doing what they had planned or set up for me so to speak. It keeps me thin and I can eat whatever I want :) I love it and I would have it any other way at all. It also allows me to speak up to ppl like my parents ect when they are doing things with my or in my name or involving me in situations or trying to take control and hide things that they are doing that’s illegal. It doesn’t phase me anymore in fact I put it out there for the world to see and inform every bank and establishment they have done stuff with using my name or have used my name of what they were doing and point out that my forges checks and answers her phone saying she is me. Been using for 22years and i look better and younger then ppl I’ve grown up with.
I dont know about this drug because we dont have it in Spain. But all that you have in excess its not good for health. And 2grams per day I think its too much for the body.

You have a big selfcontrol when you only do 1 shot per day. I think this is very very rare in IV users.

Here we have speed paste but its very different to meth. Its not worth it to IV as far as I know. I did it and felt nothing when snorted I got high. I heard that you must IV 1 gram to feel the rush. Never tried. Here the drug that cause more problems is alcohol by far and coke. Opiods users we are a kind of a very rare specimen, and IV users are still a very very rare thing. Coke is everywhere because the NW of Spain is the entrance of the coke of europe. So we have very good quality(also very cut stuff).

We had an opioid epidemy in the 70-80s with heroin but nothing compared to what you have in the US with fentanyl. Most people here are very very frightened of heroin and thinks its the worst drug you can take. We had lots of AIDS due to sharing needles. Did you have heroin epidemy in the 70-80s?
 
I dont know about this drug because we dont have it in Spain. But all that you have in excess its not good for health. And 2grams per day I think its too much for the body.

You have a big selfcontrol when you only do 1 shot per day. I think this is very very rare in IV users.

Here we have speed paste but its very different to meth. Its not worth it to IV as far as I know. I did it and felt nothing when snorted I got high. I heard that you must IV 1 gram to feel the rush. Never tried. Here the drug that cause more problems is alcohol by far and coke. Opiods users we are a kind of a very rare specimen, and IV users are still a very very rare thing. Coke is everywhere because the NW of Spain is the entrance of the coke of europe. So we have very good quality(also very cut stuff).

We had an opioid epidemy in the 70-80s with heroin but nothing compared to what you have in the US with fentanyl. Most people here are very very frightened of heroin and thinks its the worst drug you can take. We had lots of AIDS due to sharing needles. Did you have heroin epidemy in the 70-80s?
I only do one shot a day because my veins are gone. One negative effect of using meth, but one I can deal with. I would have never finished college if I weren't using meth, and my boss is very complimentary of my work ethic, and appreciates that I am such a hard worker. The threat of the criminal justice system is really the only thing that concerns me when it comes to my meth use. I realize that a majority of meth users have a very different experience than I do. In my opinion, they are effing it up for people like me-giving meth a bad rep. But I also blame a lot of the negatives associated with meth use are a result of its illegal status, and there may be very different results if society changed their approach to drug addiction.
 
Does anyone actually believe that Meth is a good substance that has improved the quality of their life and their life has gone forwards and not backwards with meth.
It can most certainly seem that way. Do you really think that the progress you've made in life is solely contributed to using meth? Or maybe perhaps your just an ambitious, optimistic, person who knows what they want from life and is able to set goals to accomplish those things, and I mean before the meth.

I understand speed can motivate, energize, work harder. But what happens if you take that away? Does all the progress and work crumble away and become unattainable pipe dreams? Will your future and happiness be depending on wether or not you have meth to keep you going?

Could you consider it a tool? Absolutely. But be wary of that "everything is better because of this substance" mentality. And keep it mind the toll meth takes on the body and brain.
 
I have been a daily user for seven years now. I'm 43 years old, still have all my teeth, and people always guess my age to be early 30s. I work for a government agency, and have held this job for six years. My first year at the job was also my last year of college-I graduated with a bachelor of science degree. I live alone, and live comfortably on a single income. I wouldn't say my life is better on meth, but I don't feel I have had any detrimental effects from it. My tolerance has increased, and I now use about two grams per day. I mostly snort it, and do one IV shot per day on average. I am scared that if I were to quit, I would gain an outrageous amount of weight, which is probably the only negative effect I would list.

2 grams a day and you're shooting it up too?


that'll catch up to you eventually
 
Does anyone actually believe that Meth is a good substance that has improved the quality of their life and their life has gone forwards and not backwards with meth.

I'm tot laking about adhd meds only specifically crystal methamphetamine.

We constantly hear about Meth destroying peoples lives..... is there any success stories here.

People that use meth and only believe positive things have come from it. For example

-their social skills may have improved and therefore social life, new friends, relationships.
- relationships improved in terms of partners
-more organised with daily tasks
-more productive with work. got promotion, new job etc
-increased confidence cause moving forward
-maybe stated exercising
-maybe look better
-maybe lost weight hat needed to be lost.
-opening business
-making more money

Basically people with nothing negative to say about meth and life has moved forward not backwards because of meth and not been destroyed.

Is there anyone out there? If there is they probably are not on here.

But I would be interested to hear from these individuals and their stories. Do these people exist?
Medically seen as dextro-amphetamine is still prescription overhere. Meth-amphetamine was long ago labeled as a substance with no medical usage. And therefore not scripted anymore. Kinda answer's the question that meth is at least medically seen as useless in the EU. Not the US.

Dextro-amphetamine is defenitly life improving for me add, never abuse it just medically.
 
I've used methamphetamine approximately 20 times this year. My doses were always conservative, typically ranging from 2.5mg to 5mg orally. I used it to study; importantly, I never exceeded 20mg in a single dose, never stayed awake for days, and never felt the need to redose. My approach was always about using it sparingly and with respect for the drug and most importantly respect for myself.

To answer your question directly, I can't say methamphetamine enhanced my life in any significant way. While it did make studying more engaging at times, it didn't lead to substantial improvements in my personal growth.

I ended up throwing out my solution not too long ago, I might buy some more to help with school work in the future. But, yeah, I don't believe it made my life any better or worse.
 
Pervitin (Methamphetamine) was used by Germany in WWII and by Japan (who synthesized it in 1919 from reduction of Ephedrine)

Post WWII Japan had a massive surplus black market of Methamphetamine. Great for the war effort, munitions factory workers, soldiers, airmen, etc

d-Desoxyephedrine HCL (Pervitin, Methedrine, Desoxyn) circa 1919 Japan

U.S. & U.K. used Benzedrine Amphetamine and later Dexedrine

The entire German armed forces were on daily Pervitin, even the civilian population to boost mood & productivity and reduce hunger and painkiller ....the health Minister soon discovered that ramped Meth use had horrific negative effects on the user's, suffering psychosis and other mental & physical problems

Today in the U.S. Desoxyn (d-Meth) is a prescription drug in 5mg oral tablets (3-5 daily) and is apparently safer & more effective in lower doses than Adderall or Dexedrine

Methedrine 20 & 30mg glass ampouls for injection in the 1950's would've been a blast lol

JFK stripped naked and ran down the halls of the hotel as the secret service tried to restrain him lol....his Dr. Jacob's aka Dr. Feelgood gave him Methamphetamine & Testosterone & Oxycodone ....along with all the stars and VIPS

Ya, IV Methamphetamine feels Amazing I'm sure lol, add a super euphoric opioid such as Oxycodone and Testosterone, darn....the most incredible antidepressant cocktail on planet earth
 
It's possible that your uncle did both, used a bit fir school and used more after hours to get blitzed.



Meth'/chronic stimulant user's need to learn to drink isotonic drinks and sugar-free chew gum.
The drinks will keep their blood sugar up and electrolyte levels stable, which will reduce mood swings and slow down the chances if psychosis/hallucinations.
Plus it'll keep their month moist along with sugar-free gum which will help cut down tooth damage, as a dry mouth speeds up tooth damage.

I was surprised you didn't know that at it's peak less than 2% of 'Heroin' in the US was coming from Afghanistan.
Question ? So is that the answer why sometimes I would just start to freak out on the shit ? Because I needed electrolytes ? I don't see it . Please be kind and break it down if you would.
 
Question ? So is that the answer why sometimes I would just start to freak out on the shit ? Because I needed electrolytes ? I don't see it . Please be kind and break it down if you would.
just chiming in...nobody can know why you would start to freak out because there could be dozens of reasons, a couple of which could be eased by consuming electrolytes
 
Ya, IV Methamphetamine feels Amazing I'm sure lol, add a super euphoric opioid such as Oxycodone and Testosterone, darn....the most incredible antidepressant cocktail on planet earth

Yep that is superman shit. But it's not sustainable right?

It's only going to lead to disaster later surely.
 
Used in normal therapeutic doses (slightly on the higher end) and used sporadically, as needed only as a tool when needed for peak performance or special operations …..a relatively safe tool, and Extremely effective

Superman mode indeed…

Depo-Testosterone 200mg IM (2 days prior to event)
Oxycodone OXY-IR 10mg (hour prior to even)
Methedrine 20mg IV/IM (30min prior to even)

Alprazolam 1mg
Diazepam 10mg X 2
Pregabalin 300mg ….all 3 together as needed after to unwind and settle down

Peak physical performance & health, mentally stable individual…..they’d be like Superman
 
Pervitin (Methamphetamine) was used by Germany in WWII and by Japan (who synthesized it in 1919 from reduction of Ephedrine)

Post WWII Japan had a massive surplus black market of Methamphetamine. Great for the war effort, munitions factory workers, soldiers, airmen, etc

d-Desoxyephedrine HCL (Pervitin, Methedrine, Desoxyn) circa 1919 Japan

U.S. & U.K. used Benzedrine Amphetamine and later Dexedrine

The entire German armed forces were on daily Pervitin, even the civilian population to boost mood & productivity and reduce hunger and painkiller ....the health Minister soon discovered that ramped Meth use had horrific negative effects on the user's, suffering psychosis and other mental & physical problems

Today in the U.S. Desoxyn (d-Meth) is a prescription drug in 5mg oral tablets (3-5 daily) and is apparently safer & more effective in lower doses than Adderall or Dexedrine

Methedrine 20 & 30mg glass ampouls for injection in the 1950's would've been a blast lol

JFK stripped naked and ran down the halls of the hotel as the secret service tried to restrain him lol....his Dr. Jacob's aka Dr. Feelgood gave him Methamphetamine & Testosterone & Oxycodone ....along with all the stars and VIPS

Ya, IV Methamphetamine feels Amazing I'm sure lol, add a super euphoric opioid such as Oxycodone and Testosterone, darn....the most incredible antidepressant cocktail on planet earth
Why or maybe better guestion it so called easy avaialable Methedrine, brand name Meth-Amphetamine round the 80's.

They could easy get it in from belgium, just over the border.
Was it OTC there or leftovers of the American soldiers supply [unliklely]
Or some sort of shady pharmacy's or a street brand tablet selled illegal.
The guy the only who didn t drink would ride up and down after a working night.

Actually two guys same period told me the same story always referring to Methedrine.
One said he loved it the othersaid it was the devil. says enough for me.

no medical use.
 
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Lol. I'm sorry. Its just I have heard this story from so many people over the years. Including from myself back when I was a teenager.

Once I was stupid enough to believe somebody that told me something similar and let him move into my house and that was a disaster. Stole some things that cannot be replaced, never even paid in full his first month of rent. Punched me in face at one point.

Heard that story from people on these forums too, who make it sound like their life is some major success. Later we find out, things were a little different than how they were presented... no he didn't work with some multinational corporation. Actually he was getting kicked out of his apartment.

Meth doesn't improve your life. It just makes you feel good. But even than will become fleeting over time.

The good news is, its actually not that hard to get off of, compared to other things.
 
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yeah i dont get how people study on it.

sure it keeps you awake but my thinking and focus is skewed.

where as adhd meds thinking and focus on point
 
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