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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Subutex 8mg - NEW TO IT- SCHOOL ME PLEASE

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When I used 'Tex I would always just cut a small amount out and usually snoot it - making sure it stayed up in my nose for the most part and to get a better bioavail. I liked it more the suboxone, but not many doctors give Tex out around here! That's neat that you got it. A few times I got a nice high from it, closer to an Oxy type high, but not like an intense euphoria, just a little bit of the feel good. I'd say small amounts at a time are best 2mg or less and if it's a first time use then maybe 1mg or less! Enjoy and appreciate that medicine it's powerful and does what it's suppose to when used properly. I never used the Tex sublingually, but imagine it's similar to suboxone however may feel a little different since none of that naloxene.
 
Thanks for all the responses guys. I woke up this morning and felt great. Not only that, had the greatest nights rest I've had in awhile - never even woke up. I usually ALWAYS do that. That small piece I took last night made me feel good and relaxed. Made be pass TFO though. I'm not sure how many mg's it was. I took a piece about the size of a big pot seed - I'm sure all of you have smoked pot some time in your life. So that should give you some kind of idea of how big it was. I think I got it from here. One more thing, do smaller doses make you pass out, or is this just because it's my first time taking it?
 
I 100% agree with what Alex said ^ I used about 3 bags a day and got prescribed 24mg daily :-/ That was over a year ago...
 
Michael I have found an old post from a previous discussion about bupe, and I think this post I located on a different forum might help.. it did me anyway:::

Here is the deal in plain English, and I should know. Like s-roberts posted above, Suboxone is not met for long term use. I've been on dope, Oxy 80's, Fentynal patches & Lollipops (800 mc's), Roxi 30's, Morphine (80mg Kadian) and everything else opiate, and for the last 5 years been back & forth on Suboxone. I too was lied to from several Suboxone Doctors, one actually told me "you'll have to be on this for the rest of your life". Exactly like s-roberts said, after like 6 months you'll be in big trouble, the biggest problem being Depression, which effects 100% of your life in the worse negative way you could ever imagine. Then I found a new place, a pain management clinic, I explained my history and they were shocked, not at my usage, but at the prior Suboxone Docs I had seen. The Doc there went as far to say those Docs should be arrested. Anyway, they gave me 5 8mg Suboxone, yup just 5, and yes indeed that is all you need. Oh and don't listen to the idiots that say you have to be in full with drawl before taken Subs, that is 100% false. 10 to 12 hours after last Oxy Contin fix and or Heroin fix is fine. I have done this well over 20 times and I have it down to a science, because I use to switch to Subs then go back on OC's and so forth and I did this all the time. Though I don't insist that anyone try this, it is very, very dangerous and it took me a very long time to figure out how to do it properly without getting extremely sick. But I do know that their are legit reasons for wanting to do so, namely extreme pain, which the Subs do not work for at all. They will work for pain for a little while but slowly but surely that effect will wear off. So I would say Suboxone is great for someone who has zero pain and is just a recreational user, but if you have a bad back or neck pain or what have you then they are not so good. OK enough about that shit, lets get back to the REAL SUBOXONE REGIMENT. This is how the new place had me do it and it worked like a charm I swear to you. Fuck those Docs that say anything different, they are either one of two things, They just don't know the truth because they believe what they are told by the Drug Company (who are liars and just want money and lots of it) or they know the truth and they are just money hungry liars themselves who deserve to be in prison. Here is the way to do it and it works, not only for me, but many other people I know have done this also and it worked for all of them too. 5 Suboxone 8mg pills is all you need, trust me it is all you need, anymore then that it gets harder and harder to get off. General rule of thumb when using Suboxone, the longer you are on it, the harder it is to get off ! They had me take a 1/2 of tab the first day, (you'll be feeling way better in about 30 to 50 minutes), then the other half later that night, (late as possible). The 2nd day of treatment do the same, half morning, then half at night (make it later then the night before). OK, by now the shit is in your system and you'll be feeling even better. Day 3 do the same, again though take it a bit later each day, in other words spread your doses out farther each day by at least an hour or 2. OK now we are at day 4 of your new life and it should feel like a new life, but DO NOT let the way you feel trick you into thinking that these Suboxone are some kind of miracle pill and want to keep taking them, taking them any longer then what I'm telling you here would be a very, very bad mistake and trust me, you will regret it. Truth of the matter is that it is a miracle drug, BUT ONLY and ONLY if taken very and I mean VERY SHORT TERM. Please trust me, I've been down every single possible road with these Suboxone and every Opiate known to man. OK so back to day 4, Now this day DO NOT take a half in the morning, SKIP it and wait until night time, about the same time you took it the night before. (By the way, you should write down every time you dose so to keep track and not make any mistakes)On day 5 do exactly the same as day 4, just one half of a tab at night time. OK day 6 is here, Now break the last Suboxone pill in half and then each half in half again. (are you starting to get the picture) On day 6 take a 1/4 of a tab at around mid day, then another 1/4 at night. Day 7 just take a 1/4 at night time and that's it. Now you should have just a 1/4 of 1 Suboxone left. Day 8 DO NOT take ANYTHING. On day 9 you should still feel great, also DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING, wait until the 10th day and take the last 1/4 pill at night time, unless your feeling sick then take it during the day. You will then be just fine. You NEVER and I repeat NEVER take a whole Suboxone at once, it is no good for you, another rule of thumb when taking Suboxone is LESS IS BETTER, actually, less is WAAAAY BETTER, you get better effect with small doses. Any Doctor that tells you to take a whole tablet at once is plain and simply WRONG, let alone a whole in the AM and another whole in the PM, like most of them tell you to do, that's exactly what they want you to do, so not only do the pills go faster and he gets his money for another visit, you will also not be able to get off of them as easy and hence even more visits. Sub Docs love this, lets face it, they are in it to make money off of addicts and they look at you just as that, as addict, someone who is beneath them and one they have no problem what so ever taken advantage of. Plus they already know you have the money, because your not spending it on street drugs now that he has you on Subs. In other words you are the Suboxone Doctors slave, and that's just how he wants it. Let me say that not all Docs are like this but many are, most of those ones just don't know any better and it is not really their fault, but some do no better and they should be thrown into an Iron Maiden. The word about this short term treatment is spreading and hopefully soon Sub Docs will not be so quick to throw every person that walks in their office into HELL !
 
My first question is how long after taking your first Tex do you wait before you can take an opiate and feel the effect? My doc just wrote me 8mg Tex twice a day. Been using 5-6 4mg dilaudid a day for a while some times more. I just took my first Tex this morning and am miserable. So I took another half and still didn't help any. Not like full blown detox but very uncomfortable hot one mine cold the next. Defiantly don't feel any kind of euphoria like some of y'all were describing. All I can think about is I wish I hadn't taken this and had just taken the 4 when I got up
 
I usually like to give myself 36 hours after opiates to switch back to sub to avoid the naloxone making me sick, longer for methadone obviously but with dillaudid or heroin a day and a half is fine. When switching over to opiates from sub, well I only take 2mg of sub a day so 8 hours is plenty to get high if I have an ample quantity of what I'm doing. Although at that soon I'll still get a rush and then come down really quickly. But within 48 hours the sub really isn't blocking much of anything and I can go all out.

I can't believe you took 12 mg of sub and still feel poorly, I've come off gram a day dope habits on 4mg of sub and been fine. I do inject my sub usually (trying to break that habit because it gums up my veins wicked) and that definitely makes a small dose go farther
 
I've been on 1 and a quarter a day for 4 years ....I suggest break it in quarters take a quarter every 4 hours and see how u fill ....its 2 mg a quarter.... I took a hole didn't like how I felt just adjust till its right for u and tell doc the truth very important good luck
 
8 mg is FAR too much from the way it sounds. Besides the fact that less is generally better when it comes to buprenorphine, 8 mg is just FAR too much. I do not know why your doctor would start you on such a high dose, especially if you have weened down to 3 Lorcets daily. In fact, I am not sure that taking any Subutex is in your best interest, unless you plan to maintain on it so that you do not relapse into opiate addiction or plan to use it for pain management. In any event, I would say start at as little as 0.5 mg, 1/16th of the 8 mg pill. You can cut the pill into quarters, and then crush a quarter and roughly measure out a quarter of that by dividing the powder into four equal lines. You can then carefully take the powder, equal to 0.5 mg, and put it under your tongue. If you feel this is not enough, try 1 mg (half of one of the quarters). I highly doubt you will need more than 1 mg per dose, and think 0.5 mg should be sufficient. I would dose as needed, maybe two or three times a day, as you feel comfortable. With Subutex (buprenorphine) less is generally more for opioid effect and anti-depressant effect. This is a generally accepted statement, although doctors will almost always prescribe much more than you need or will want to take.
Just wanted to agree with this post. I currently have the 8mg strips and they are strong as hell. I took 1mg of it and I'm high as a kite right now.. I had a small daily H habit, but still I had some tolerance. Tomorrow I'm going to not take anything and hope that the jump comes without WDs..
 
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