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Substance with the greatest body high

Since all ket use isn't from robbing vets (high quality), it also gets black-market manufactured from tranquilizers right? So compared to MXE, where they can be more open, less people know about it, and they can do more quality control because of its quasi-legal status... there's a lot more variance in the quality of ket compared to MXE I think. You might be getting the good stuff.

Maybe I've only had subpar ket.. I felt the same body load with DXM tho.

ive only had medicinal k or k powder that was made from boiling off the solution from pharmaceutical ketamine
 
Meth, Amphetamine, 2C-I, 2C-P, cannabis, nitrous, tramadol, hydrocodone...

I love all of these but psychedelics are probably the best because they augment the mind in a way that makes it easier to notice the sensations from the body.
 
Meth, Amphetamine, 2C-I, 2C-P, cannabis, nitrous, tramadol, hydrocodone...

I love all of these but psychedelics are probably the best because they augment the mind in a way that makes it easier to notice the sensations from the body.

hmm, i agree with the part about psychs but I found 2C-I to have a pretty shitty "body load" or whatever you want to call it. THe single best body high I ever got was from a hefty dose of 4-AcO-DMT. OMG that was an incredible feeling...

MXE is pretty damn good too, same with MDMA
 
Fair call. Technically isn't a combo because the meth 'high' has worn off :)

I tried meth recently and I can say the comedown is a high in itself. So relaxing... of course I dosed my meth low. I could eat the entire time I was on it. The second time I did it and came down the comedown did something strange... I started getting really dizzy and slurry. I couldn't think straight or move right and my vision was slow. It was like I took a roofie or something, but all I had done was meth. I didn't even stay up very long on it, no longer than 24 hours.

So... the meth comedown is definitely a high in itself and with a relaxing slightly stimulating drug like oxycodone that feels similar to meth but more down? Perfect combo it sounds like.

The opiate high is very similar to the meth high in a low dose.
 
My experience(s) with drugs, old and new.

Best street drug: Heroin: (IV is quite satisfying, but you'll be chasing that first high for life, so dissolve it in a very small amount of water, put it in an eyedrop/visene bottle but don't use the eyedrop liquid, use filtered water, then drop the concentrated liquid in your nose until it's gone, the less liquid the easier. You'd be surprised at how difficult it is to get even 1/4 tsp in your nose without swallowing it, where the stomach acids will destroy it without getting in your system for the most part. You could also roll a joint with some weed that's been soaked in this liquid, make sure the weed has dried completely. This is for someone who could still get high from a small amount. It's a smooth high.

You could also just mainline it but there's risks of introducing a bacterial/fungal infection in your body. The infection is called endocarditis. This bacteria/fungus grows/spreads in & around the heart, valves, lungs, anything it can reach. Often antibiotics don't work because the blood only flows through the heart in one direction, or if your infection is MRSA, an antibiotic resistant infection.

The only other treatment for this is OPEN HEART SURGERY! The infection can still spread. I have a friend who got this, the infection wasn't going away even with the most powerful IV antibiotics, he had open heart surgery but it was unsuccessful. The infection spread to his lungs & he was found gasping for breath on the floor, was rushed to the hospital by EMTs, & was pronounced dead upon arrival. He was just 22 years old. Or you could inject into the muscle, (intramuscular/IM it). Doesn't hit you immediately, which is what many people like, but it's easier, less likely to cause endocarditis, but can still cause a serious infection to the injection site.

I have another friend who injected IM, his leg nearly rotted off because he developed an enormous cyst/abscess. Finally. You could dissolve it in a little water & use a plastic tipped syringe, stick it up the butt and second to IVing it, it's the most effective and efficient way. I don't condone it, but I do condone knowledge. If you inject in your butt cheeks, be sure to know where not to stick the needle. There's a muscle that goes diagonally over the gluteus Maximus that, if damaged, can make you walk with a limp.

Best overall drug: probably hydromorphone (Dilaudid) it packs a serious punch, but it doesn't last anytime at all – like 30-45 minutes, so you'd have to have a lot if it to make an afternoon of it. So it could tie with morphine, which lasts a little longer. Both can come in pill form, morphine can come in extended release (Morphine ES, MS Contin), which also comes in very high doses. You can kind of bypass the extended release by simply chewing the pill into dust so they dissolve faster, but make sure you know what you're doing. You could easily overdose on that.

Something a lot of people don't know & often haven't even heard of:
This happened to me, twice. Once when I was taking Ativan (benzos) & alcohol, then years later from heroin…

Make sure you are seated in a comfortable chair that you can't fall out of, do NOT be sitting or laying on a hard surface or in any position where you could lose even a small amount of blood flow to any area no matter how small. Why? Because if you're laying in the same position for any amount of time, wherever your body is pressing against the floor, those areas can basically start to die due to lack of blood supply that carries oxygen, all that. This is very real. It's called Rhabdomyolysis. As your muscle breaks down, consuming itself, it releases the dead proteins into the blood that severely overtax the kidneys. It will cause kidney damage. You will have to stay in the hospital until your protien levels reach a safe level. In my case, my CK (protien) levels topped out well over 27,200. This number should be around 200. I had over 100 times the normal levels both times I had this. I was in the hospital each time for a week. They monitor your blood and urine at least once a day. Often more. My urine was so dark it was the color of a dark soda like Pepsi. Apparently that was broken down muscle, tissue, & blood—some kidney damage! I'm now advised against taking any NSAIDs such as ibuprofen, acetaminophen, any of those typical pain/fever meds. They can damage kidneys and liver. My last accident between the hospital stay and subsequent ER visits for the pain I'm suffering because of the rhabdomyolysis, severe nerve damage because of the pressure that happened to be directly on some of my major nerves in my legs, so I have severe nerve damage. It's extraordinarily painful. This has cost my insurance (thank you. "Obamacare"!) well over $160,000! I'm lucky I didn't have to pay a penny for it because of my insurance & state supplemental insurance.

If my kidneys hadn't started removing the toxins from my body, they were going to have to surgically place shunts in me to access my blood so that they could put me on dialysis. I also had some really bad muscle tears & serious loss of mobility/movement. They were also about to perform a fasciotomy (they drew the lines on me and everything) which is where they slice into your flesh when it's so swollen that it may burst open because of the pressure and swelling. Of course, if my kidneys hadn't removed the toxins, I'd have had to be placed on the dreaded kidney transplant waiting list. Of course a drug user who injured themselves doing drugs isn't going to exactly get any priority. I'd have died. So, IF you're going to do a drug that could incapacitate you, even if you've done it 100 times, (I had done it countless times) sit somewhere that wouldn't put hard pressure on you, no hard floors or hard chairs, a soft couch or recliner, bed, those things would be better. In my case I didn't even get the tourniquet off of my arm, or the needle out of my vein. I was found on the floor by my boyfriend, who doesn't do drugs.

The first time I got rhabdomyolysis I had a rotator cuff injury, nerve damage, numbness, pain. Three torn muscle/ligament connections, & I used a cane for a month. Was quite depressed. This was now about 4-5 years ago. I'm still dealing with effects from that injury. This last time, Nov. 30, 2013, just a month & a half ago, I was in the hospital for about 6 days. This time the rhabdomyolysis & nerve damage in my legs because of the awkward way I landed and remained on the kitchen floor, for many hours. When I was found by my boyfriend who tried to get me up, but I couldn't move my legs, couldn't feel them, it was scary but I thought my legs were just asleep so I layed in the couch until I woke up hours later… still couldn't move, I frantically called for my boyfriend to help, I told him I needed to go to the hospital emergency room. So one of us called and had an ambulance & EMTs come transport me. I couldn't support my weight whatsoever. They had me on a ton of pain killers, 2mg of dilaudid every hour, 10mg of morphine every 2 hours, 30mg MS Contin twice daily, 10mg hydrocodone/325mg acetaminophen as a combo drug given 4 times a day. The ER doctor put me on that. But because I injured myself IVing heroin he didn't put me on more - enough to really get rid of the pain. He told me that when I was admitted to the hospital and given a room that I would have to really fight to keep the hospitalist dr from taking me off of the pain medicine. She left
Me on it for a couple days. Then reduced my dose every day making my pain far worse.

It took me a month and a half before my PCP finally agreed to put me on MS Contin again. I now use a walker. I'm just 33 years old. It does appear that I'll get movement & feeling back in my legs, calves, & feet/toes. The movement is extremely slow to heal and it takes a very long time to reinnervate muscles. It can repair itself as slowly as a cm/month. & I've got nerve damage starting at about my knee and the repair only goes in one direction, from proximal to distal (grows away from the center of the body). It could take 1 year or less, or it could take upwards of 7-8 years.

Finally, there's the benzodiazapines which I've been taking with a valid prescription for over 9 years. I was taking 2mg of Ativan (lorazepam) 4 times/day lorazepam/Ativan worked best for me, the Xanax (alprazolam) doesn't last long enough, the diazepam (Valium) gave me a crappy comedown/hangover after it wore off, but Ativan (lorazepam) was perfect. I was taking it for acute panic attack & anxiety, as well as sleep, as I have insomnia quite bad.

When I got this injury Nov. 30th & wet to the hospital early that morning on 12-1-13 I was due for a refill of my Ativan but my psychiatrist denied it & without tapering/titrating/weaning me off, just told me to quit taking it cold turkey. Now everyone knows that it's really dangerous to just suddenly stop taking any benzodiazepine as it will cause seizures or at the least, seizure activity.

In my case I was having extreme muscle cramps, spasms, severe twitching like when a seizure sets in, I called him four times, had two office visits about this concern and he truly did tell me one time before I consulted him about how I was going to manage my medications while I was traveling all over Asia & Southeast Asia, India, lots of cool places, now here's the kicker: his exact statement to me regarding the benzodiazepines such as Ativan or Xanax, Valium, Librium was this:

"Do not stop taking this medication suddenly. It's very dangerous. You could have a seizure which could be fatal."

Then he goes & directs me to stop taking the panic attack/anxiety medication that he's told me can kill to do this, he tells me he can't prescribe it again for at least a year. Yet my other doctor began tapering me off of the pain meds all because I did heroin. Seems like denying me a medication without weaning me off of it was doing harm, and they're supposed to first do no harm.

I'm not trying to sub out my mistake, but it's really scary to be doing nothing but shaking & having tremors & uncontrollable panic attacks, unable to sleep because I'm an insomniac and have been for over 10 years, so I'm having solid anxiety with very frequent panic attacks, chest pains making it feel like my heart will beat so hard and fast that it will get a screwed up beat rhythm/heartbeat going.

My panic attacks truly feels like I'm having severe blood pressure, racing pulse often over 120 & I've had it go higher than 158bpm, and the pressure in my chest is so painful, tight, that I honesty am afraid that if I can't mentally get myself out of that panic attack that my heart will basically misfire giving me a heart attack. It's so scary that I think it could kill me even though

I've been told that a panic attack can't actually kill, I do think that any extra stress on your heart if excessive &/or drawn out or off and on with an increased & decreased pulse can make the beat unstable, then I'll twitch from the sudden stop of my panic medication that I absolutely need, or caused by pain, my mind worrying about getting another panic attack that I still think could kill someone like me whose panic attacks, anxiety, insomnia & lack of sleep make it so much more likely that my body can't handle the high pressure, tightness, & pain from the panic attacks. Mine really can last days, with only a few brief moments where it sort of wanes but doesn't go away, sometimes if I am finally able to get to sleep after simply being unable to sleep for so long due to my insomnia & anxiety, that means I will be awake even if I'm not making any sense from being awake too long, I still can't sleep until my body is just too tired to go on. Only then when I'm having one of those acute panic attacks, does my panic attack have a chance of going away. But they're never gone for long.

I'm really pretty pissed at my psychiatrist who just had me go cold turkey off of Ativan/Lorazepam at 8mg/day every day for close to 10 years! It's an incredibly irresponsible move & I'm truly surprized he put me through that. I did find some Xanax & lorazepam (Ativan) from a guy I know to try to stave off any bad seizure, I still had terrible whole body spasms/twitches/seizes. I had really bad cold sweats while *trying* to sleep, hot flashes, short term memory loss, although that could've been related to a new medication that I was taking for neuropathy, Neurontin AKA Gabapentin, which was making me feel really out of my mind like I wasn't myself.

Sorry so long…
 
Combos:

MDMA+2C-B+Weed. Best body high and best high i've ever had, absolutely unreal.

Not combined:
MDMA
2C-B
LSD

gotta love those moments when you just fall on your ass, your concerned friend asks if everything's ok and your answer is "yeah... everything's good i'm just... ahhh WOOOOWWWW!!!"
 
I have no idea why people are mentioning psychedelics, I tend to think of them as body loads not highs as they're uncomfortable. Heroin is my favorite body high w one drug.
 
^Some are uncomfortable. You tried psilocybin yet? Or 4-HO-MET? =D they're both euphoric as hell, psilo has me laughing my ass off while 4-HO-MET gives me a full body orgasm during the entire trip. Amazing stuff. LSD 's bodyload is pretty sweet as well. Infact candyflipping (LSD+MDMA) comes very close to 4-HO-MET. But that would be more than one substance. Anyway, time to test 4-HO-MET + MDMA. =D

2C-E, for instance, does have a pretty uncomfortable bodyload. I lean towards the psilocybin-ish psychedelics.
 
F33lgood, me too man. I just don't get how people can feel comfortable body highs on psychedelics or anything that has strong psychoactive-hallucination properties.

You want a body high that has no such thing as a bad trip, has a rush, is 100% comfortable and guaranteed to help you sleep at night? O P I A T E S.
 
I tried meth recently and I can say the comedown is a high in itself. So relaxing... of course I dosed my meth low. I could eat the entire time I was on it. The second time I did it and came down the comedown did something strange... I started getting really dizzy and slurry. I couldn't think straight or move right and my vision was slow. It was like I took a roofie or something, but all I had done was meth. I didn't even stay up very long on it, no longer than 24 hours.

So... the meth comedown is definitely a high in itself and with a relaxing slightly stimulating drug like oxycodone that feels similar to meth but more down? Perfect combo it sounds like.

The opiate high is very similar to the meth high in a low dose.


Wow, I've done way more than my fair share of both meth and heroin, I used over an ounce in about two months but I was already doing the stuff constantly. I stayed up 9 or 10 days once. I sorta lost track. Then there's heroin, which I've done IV probably 100-130 times, and I could never say the two of them are alike in any dose, yeah I was doing a lot, but I did start out slow. Also the comedown on meth when I was first using it was really quite excruciating and depressing, now it hardly phases me, but are you saying you actually enjoyed the comedown?

Heroin is definitely my favorite but at this point I can take 100mg of hydrocodone and still not feel anything. Luckily I have a rx for morphine because I do have a serious injury. But yeah, opiates are the best. They're like a warm blanket of acceptance and contentment. Meth is alright but I get panic attacks now and it started after I did coke once so I think I'm too old to do meth and get my heart racing too much, heh
 
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