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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

subs/meth and pregabs/ GBL

trevic

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So I'm sorry if this is against the rules or something, but this is echoing a thread I made on OD that I think I just made too convoluted and that hasn't got any traction and I'm wondering if you guys in this page would be able to help. I'm desperate for some insight into this from an experienced addict, and since I'm basically a hermit this is my only resource.

I'm about to go onto maintenance for opiate dependence. I do not plan to continue using opiates on top of this, or to try to stockpile or anything like that. I am feeling quite positive about being able to commit to it on the opiate side. I do not, however, feel ready to give up drugs entirely. I also do not expect I will be on a huge dose as my habit is not massive and I don't inject.

I would like to continue using pregablin and GBL somewhat irregularly - either once a week of each, or two days on one then two days on the other the next week (seperated by days), alternating. This is a routine I have some faith I'd be able to keep up with and am currently managing (albeit on heroin but smoking just enough to keep out of w/d or at most a tiny bit more), and I have support in place if things started to go sideways in terms of a great keyworker and a place that won't give up on me, no matter how many times I fuck up like it seems a lot of US places do (based on some horror stories I've seen on here).

Basically, if I took my dose in the morning and then waited until night, and was very conservative with doses as I am now on gear (leaving at least 2-3 hrs after dose, though I'd wait the whole day with the alternatives, making sure I feel no real high or sedation left over, starting as low as .25ml gbl/300 pregab) would this be an overly dangerous combination? What would be safer: methadone with naloxone on hand if I felt I'd pushed it too far, or bupe as a partial agonist but harder to unbind from what I understand? From what I understand, pregabalin doesn't cause too significant respiratory depression, especially since I wouldn't be redosing more than once. I'm also a bit odd with GBL, I prefer it at lower doses (rarely going over a ml).

I know there are people that combine these drugs happily, or will mix benzos in, but I'm just too paranoid to be cavalier about it. Since I wish to continue to enjoy these substances moderately, would it be possible to do this somewhat safely while on either of these maintenance drugs? I understand, of course, that it won't be truly "safe", but I'm looking for advice to minimise the risk as much as possible.

It'd be awhile until I got take-homes, but I would get take-homes Saturday (as pharmacy is not open sunday). Would it be best to limit to just the sunday at first and take a smaller dose on that day?

Bottom line: do you think this could be done with some degree of safety if I'm careful in figuring out how my body reacts to the combo, dose low, wait until late at night? What would be the better option if I intend to do this: bupe/subs or methadone?
 
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