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Opioids suboxone - will it prolong my recovery to take a dose?

Xorkoth

Xorkoth

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I recently underwent a flood dose of ibogaine to quit a 10 year opiate addiction. It worked phenomenally well, and I was feeling amazing. Then on the 5th day after I had to go back to work and I kinda freaked out (you're still tripping 5 days later on that much ibogaine, it's so crazy). I didn't leave myself enough downtime after the dose and I was freaking out that my brain was broken, the result of this is that I took some kratom, which I had stupidly not thrown away (I have since). And the good feeling was cancelled, and since then (that was 3 days ago) I have been feeling really shaky and shitty, nothing close to how I was before but still, it's tough.

My real question is, I have 2 doses of suboxone left. If I took one of them, once today, would it prolong or jeopardize my recovery? I wasn't sure if it would just provide temporary relief but not contribute to my overall dependence. If it will jeopardize it in any way I will not do it and I will throw it away. Something changed in me, in my resolve, when I underwent the epic saga of a flood dose of ibogaine. I am positive I will be sober and that this is soon to be behind me.

I'm so unimaginably pissed at myself that I screwed it up though, the way I felt afterwards until I messed up was the best I have ever felt in my life, utterly, gloriously happy all the time, great perspective. I miss it, and I could have been feeling it for up to 6 months. :(

Anyway, thank you got your honest opinions. I want to know what will really happy, I ave a hunch it will be a bad idea for me to take the suboxone but if people say it won't negatively impact my recovery then I will take that into consideration.
 
How many days have you been off all opiates?

Taking one or two doses of bupe most likely wont set you back much. But, when it wares off, you'll probably still feel the same way as you do now.. It's just going to give you temporary relief.
 
Right, I know, but will it then would I start getting worse again afterwards and stay sick for as long as I was going to (adding on 1-2 days to the total length), or would it just mask it for that time but still keep the same length, resulting in less total time feeling sick? If the latter, then I am in. If not, then I'll just skip it.

I have been off all opiates for 3 days, but that was once and before that it had been 2 weeks, including ibogaine in the middle of that 2-week period. Like I said I actually felt 100% cured from the ibogaine, so this little withdrawal period could be over in a couple of days and it's not nearly as bad as I has been any time recently. I'm close.
 
I think I'm just being weak and trying to do the addict rationalizing. I took a hit of some good nug and I feel many times better now, I have a smile on my face even though I'm feeling creepy-crawly a bit.
 
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Right, I know, but will it then would I start getting worse again afterwards and stay sick for as long as I was going to (adding on 1-2 days to the total length), or would it just mask it for that time but still keep the same length, resulting in less total time feeling sick? If the latter, then I am in. If not, then I'll just skip it.

I have been off all opiates for 3 days, but that was once and before that it had been 2 weeks, including ibogaine in the middle of that 2-week period. Like I said I actually felt 100% cured from the ibogaine, so this little withdrawal period could be over in a couple of days and it's not nearly as bad as I has been any time recently. I'm close.
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Once it wares off, you're going to go back to withdrawal as you would have been if you never took it. It's not going to cut the length of it or increase it only taking 2 doses.

So really, all it will be is temporary relief for that day or two you take it, and then you'll be right back where you were.

And yeah, I've heard of a lot of people who still felt withdrawal after ibogaine treatment. Same thing with the rapid detox. There just is no magical cure ya know? I mean, unless you put somebody in a coma for a month while they withdrawal, but as it stands right now.. there is no way to avoid withdrawal completely and cure yourself.

Hopefully there is research going on that will one day be able to truly rid you of your dependency and addiction, but until then, we gotta just suck it up and do it the old fashioned way.
 
I am writing a trip report, it is going to be epically long because so fucking much happened. It might be a little while til I finish, right now I have very little of the report written but lots and lots of notes. And a freaky story and a really hilarious social encounter for an evening.

My #1 piece of advice is to NEVER take a flood dose of ibogaine without someone tpo watch you CONSTANTLY the whole time for at least 3 days afterwards if not 4. In talking with a friend who did it at home like me, he did have people watching him the whole time but I only did for the first 12 hours, he said 12-24 hours later I should be good to be by myself as long as I didn't drive anywhere. I engaged in some dangerous shit, I also wrote an email to my boss because I was freaking out and told him about the ibogaine, it's actially the most insanely disjointed, psycho email I have ever read, with /////////// type stuff, etc. I mentioned ibogaine twice to him and asked him to call me right away because I am afraid I am going to die. If someone could have talked me down and unplugged my computer and phone (and also remembered to do that myself beforehand), I'd have been fine. Anyway he goty back from vacatiob Thursday and called me about it and was really supportive. He already knew about my opiate addiction, so I just told him the whole truth and now we feel closer. But I could have JUST as easily lost my job and a reference from my only job out of college (been there 9 years).
 
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My advice would be to flush them immediately. The more you think about it the more it will become an obsession...well you know the deal. I myself went through 2 months of hell getting off 16mg a day of Subs (i was prescribed for 4 years). Taking one will send you back to square one guaranteed. Trust me you don't want to waste all the hard work you've put in. Even if it's only been for a short while.
 
I have never had any suboxone before though, well once, but I've never been addicted to t. But yeah, I opted to not take any, now or ever again. :) Went and made a little Sunday fun-day for myself, got super baked, and went to Home Depot, Bed Bath & Beyond, the grocery store, and then an epically beautiful scenic historic mansion neighborhood in the mountains that's like the most beautiful place I've ever seen. I'm gonna be fine, I've probably only got a few days left, and it's not even that annoying.

EDIT: Just cut them up for good measure, into tiny bits and got it soaking wet. I am also starting therapy on Wednesday for life/substance abuse, and I'm super excited. I'm being proactive this time and going to work, so that's why I'm sure I'm going to be fine. :) I'm starting to work out every morning before work now though, that will also help tremendously because I'm really out of shape.
 
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