my insurance should make it free im at a decent rehab in tampa fl atm called river oaks
did you try to slowly taper? like extremely slow? im gonna try t taper from 2mg up to like a year in hopes to beat it and not deal with heavy paws
Been on bupe pretty since '12 pretty consistently. Have had subutex tablets and suboxone film/ tablets prescribed. Subutex is more valuable and is a cleaner 'high, especially for infrequent users. You can snort, IV or sublingual both though. Just not eat haha. I have personally IV'd regular suboxone w/o any of that w/d jive. Tex are better though. I had a habit of insulating bupe for a few years, and now it seems to irritate my nostril rather severely, not immediately but like 1-2 days after, staying like that for 5+ days. To this day I can't sniff bupe, either nostril. other stuff doesn't cause the issue though lol.
i have no intention of abusing it or other drugs just taking it to slowly but surely ween me off im quite sure the place gives suboxone not subutex i was only addicted to methadone never had a huge other opiate tolerance but at a point i was at 220 mg a day of methadone years back atm 30 mg would fuck me up prob as 2 mg of subs are able t hold me basically
Nice man I would try to make it a short of a time as possible, say 1-2 months, otherwise you just get into a place it sounds like you were in withbthe methadone.. 220mg a day sounds beastly, I think you've done some of the harder work and sub will be an easier taper, despitebsome of the horror stories around
yeah i cold turkeyed off meth at a high dose even after 5 months still wasnt right if feel if i slowly taper from subs i wont have the months of brutal withdrawal you think 1-2 months isnt to fast of a taper of sub at 2-4 mg a day? idk i figured id need like at least double that
This is the exact reason one of my Docs would do it too! He was, like most @ the time, a cash only doctor So I was already paying hundreds just to see him,then whatever it costs to fill the suboxone or tex, the film being the most expensive to fill. But he wouldn't let me smoke marijuana! He kept it real though, and said he didn't want no smoke with the DEA lol. Thankgod I was able to find medicaid covered bupe maintenence that doesn't mind if you smoke mj, just not unprescribed stims benzos or opiates
Yeah I got really lucky finding my doc. When I googled "Suboxone Dr" or something similar, every doctor they listed charged out the ass, like 500$ first time and 300$ a month after, give or take a few hundred $. I was feeling defeated and hopeless. No way I could afford that.
are you sure that would be long enough?
so you prefer subutex over soboxone? most docs claim tex is better for you can someone explain toe differences/pros cons to both?
I tapered methadone from 120mg to 0mg by stepping down 2mg a day until I got down to 20mg, then I started going down 1 mg every 2 days (if I remember correctly this was over a decade ago.) I had a relatively painless time compared to other nastier, more foolish methods of quitting various opioids. Like I said in my other post, I then had to hop on my motorcycle and ride it almost 1200 miles and I actually had a great time. I think being out in the fresh air driving across the country made some of the residual withdrawal effects less noticeable.
How long have you been on buperenorphine? If it hasn't been several months to years I'd say the answer is yes 40-60 should work good for you. But everyone's experience is different, So what works for me may not work for you and vice versa.
No I definitely preferred Subutex when I snorted/ I'Ved it simply because it's cleaner, one less BS thing you were putting somewhere it shouldn't go. But it's usually harder to get. Either an unscrupulous Dr, or an allergy to naloxone, Or if your pregnant are the only reasons I ever hear or have gotten it prescribed as part of M.A.T. (medication assisted treatment). Everyone believes the l naloxone will make you sick if you fuck around, that's not the case. Bupe sticks to the mu- receptors so good that hardly anything can knock it out. However, since it's only a partial agonist (unlike methadone which is a full agonist) it doesn't provide the level of euphoria associated with opiate abuse. Whether you take suboxone or subutex, as long as there is bupenorphine in your system your not getting high from other opiates. Nothing really happens if you try either. I ate 50mg of oxycodone after a 24hr sub break, and all I felt was the slightest bit sleepy. My normal sublingual daily sub hits me harder. But if your just taking sublingual as I do now, I reckon both to be the same. Hope I could be some help.
Can you snort Subutex a few hours after oxycodone, or will they sick? No naloxone, just the 8mg white pill