SUBOXONE VS SOA's withdrawls??

[wazhinga]

hello everybody, I'm new to this forum and am needing some help finding the best way to get off of suboxone. I've read a few threads that are years old so I thought id start a new one and see if anybody can help me. there is a friend named shooter.. he has been on suboxone for 3 years. using 8mg orange pills. over the course of the three years he's tapered down close to 0.5mg of suboxone (shaves just about a cm long line and snorts it... so it could be less than 0.5mg.)

about 2 months ago he tried to quit, he had only one week; he went through hell for 5 straight days then had to go back to work, at work he still could not function and his boss was getting on his case... so he went back on suboxone to keep his job, but still kept the mg the same.. Now he is about done with suboxone, he erased all his contacts and docs appointments and is trying to give it another try. he has read what helps and what doesn't but everybody has a different view or way to get off suboxone, is it better to come off suboxone or to come off oxycodone or Norco (SOA's). he weighs about 140pounds and is 6'1" tall and has little to no body fat. he is suffering depression and has anxiety, especially because of his fear of the W/Ds.


my question are:
-is it easier to just stop taking his last bit of suboxone, and get maybe a few Norco or oxy and come off that? he's heard that coming off SOA's is easier than coming off suboxone..
- shall he stay on the sub and just go through hell again? what's the best way to get off subs.. I've heard that subs have a longer half life than SOA's, so he thinks coming off SOA's would be better than sub. so he got some oxycodone as is using just a little bit of it just as he would on suboxone. good or bad idea?
- the meds he is getting are stock pile of anxiety pills such as Xanax, temazapam. some Imodium and Dayquil... also some BENGAY cream that relieves muscle aches. I think he has all the ingredients to get off opiates. anything else that he can use please let me know. BUT MAINLY WANTS TO KNOW WHATS BETTER COMING OFF SOA's or just go for it coming off of 0.5mg of sub.
thank you for any replies, I'm sorry if I wrote this in the wrong thread, I'm new.. I just want my buddy to feel better and still be functional at work. thank you and have a great day- wazhinga

 

[neversickanymore]

Ap-> sl

Welcome to BL and sober living. Allot of really good advice and suport here.

medications for acute opiate detox

NSFW:

The medications I would explore the use of for detox would be:
>Clonidine< DOSED EVER FOUR HOURS..

one of either
>NEURONTIN< >HERE< >HERE< >here<
OR >Lyrica<
OR >phenibut<

>A BENZO BUT JUST AT NIGHT<
>a nsaid<
>melatonin<
tylenol
Senokot S is a stool softener and laxative. If you do not want the laxative you can go for strait stool softenerDioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate.

(Opi Withdrawal) what is the best comfort meds for opiate w/d?

Your Personal Opiate Withdrawal Arsenal

 

[WC2]

Suboxone is a great drug for those with a lot of responsibility who want to keep living their life, while tapering down their opiate usage at the same time.

With that said, Suboxone and Norcos are practically the same thing to the brain. Meaning, your friend feels so normal on Suboxone because it's filling his receptors that opiates once filled. So really, it's have a very similar effect.

So in that light, WDs from either should be very similar. Although, I have heard that Subxone is a VERY powerful opiate, thus the WDs may be worse (but that's all theory). And it also depends on how long he was using the suboxone.. 10 years on suboxone is going to be a very tough habit to break.

If you're asking whether he should go back on Norcos or stay on Subox.. the answer is obvious. Stay on Subox. The only logical reason he'd want to go back on Norcos is for the high. I suggest he starts getting the strips so he can taper down to .5 then .25 then .125 then JUMP. And plan the jump. Request off of a work for 3-4 days or a week.

Take a trip out of town where you don't have to talk to anyone. Preferably somewhere nice like miami where you can stay outside and see how great life is off opiates. And Benzos always help with sleep issues. But limit it ONLY to taking it for sleep. Or benzo addiction may occur.

Hope this helps