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Suboxone question

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Opana313

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I thought I would ask you guys...I have been tapering the 8mg sub tablets(currently 1mg-.5).

My question is simply, will it still work if I just swallow the damn thing???, I can't do this sublingual shit anymore..fucking up my teeth and looking at 3 or 4 possible crowns. Sooo done with this about ready to jump soon hopefully.

But do you think this roa is kosher? I know it prly won't work AS well but it's still gotta work a bit right? Really do not want to snort these. Holler back at a man trying to recover on his own.
 
It really doesn’t absorb the same way. I know how much it sucks. :/
If you have enough to play with, give it a try.. but from experience, it just doesn’t work.
 
From personal experience just swallowing them won’t do or help much. I know the sublingual route is not that great but you already at such a low dose. How long till you gonna kick it.

Side note: I have never exp any negative sides on my teeth from the subs.
 
Lucky you^ I think it has a lot to do with dry mouth and cigarettes too but pretty damn sure this med is making things worse.

Damn yeah I guess I could try..I sort of jump back n forth between. .5 and 1mg so maybe I'll just snort the crap.

Good question I am not sure. I guess I'd like to kick towards the end of September..I plan on skipping days now with current doses and go from there, hopefully it's not too fucking long and miserable.
 
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Unfortunately, Buprenorphine is one of those drugs with really shitty oral bioavailability. Trust me, if they didn't have to administer it sublingually, they wouldn't.

If you're worried about your teeth, I would consider trying rectal administration. It's sage, easy and you get a faster onset and higher bioavailability.

It's incredibly easy. Dissolve bupe in 5ml water, ise an oral syringe (can be bought or even had for free at pharmacies).

The syringes with the more pointy tip are the best. You only have to insert the very small pointy end of the syringe and press the plunger. You barely feel it.

I'm a big proponent of rectal administration from a Harm Reduction point of view. It's a great alternative to more harmful ROA's like injecting.
 
Keif' Richards said:
Unfortunately, Buprenorphine is one of those drugs with really shitty oral bioavailability. Trust me, if they didn't have to administer it sublingually, they wouldn't.

If you're worried about your teeth, I would consider trying rectal administration. It's sage, easy and you get a faster onset and higher bioavailability.

It's incredibly easy. Dissolve bupe in 5ml water, ise an oral syringe (can be bought or even had for free at pharmacies).

The syringes with the more pointy tip are the best. You only have to insert the very small pointy end of the syringe and press the plunger. You barely feel it.

I'm a big proponent of rectal administration from a Harm Reduction point of view. It's a great alternative to more harmful ROA's like injecting.
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Any rough estimate of bioavailability of this roa?
 
I appreciate you all! I will try these I just think removing my daily regimen of sublingual will help get the Ph or whatever back to normal for the saliva in my mouth, if not still at least I don't have citric crap helping deteriorate my choppers!

Thank you all very much and a liquid solution will probably help me taper even better(who knows) and could try volumetric dosing possibly boof it! Idk why I haven't done this route with oxycodone in the past or hydromorphone for that matter, as far as rectal goes....

I have never been an IV user just smoked(waste), oral, and most of all internasal..guess I thought boofing it seemed like a desperate thing lol which of course is NOT the case...I tried it with IR morphine once wayyyy back and I think I either didn't do it right or felt nothing.
 
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Real talk guys, I've met more people with an aversion to rectal administration than I have intravenous users.

I believe there is a big cultural component. I think people, especially men, have a hard time separating the clinical aspect of this practice from the feelings associated with sexuality

It's a weird thing the first couple of times you do it, but once you're accustomed to the process it's not a big thing at all.

I know people say to lay on your side afterward and all of that, but frankly, I can administer a drug rectally and just go about normal activities afterward and I never, not once have experiencd solution leaking or anything like that.

My point though is, once you break the taboo it becomes a lot easier so I would at least try it.
 
As I recall Suboxone SL bioavailability is ~30% and oral is ~10%. So if you have enough pills you can take 1,5mg orally if your goal is 0,5mg sublingually. This is off the cuff so please investigate a bit if you're tired of taking it sublingually.

I wish you strength, perseverance and luck!
 
Yall are the bomb..I wish the world would just wake up and educate everyone instead of, "don't do drugs, you'll never recover and lose everything/everyone or lose your life either death or jail"

But if we would get educated sayyy in high-school sompmore or senior I think would be great...like basically explaining each drug and hut it all from an HR point of view BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CURIOUS BEINGS..ppl WILL seek to get high eventually..for the most part.

A computer drug class that has everyone browse bluelight for their studies/homework.

If only everyone was like you all here on BL...big thanks to yall.
 
Today I did one last sublingual dose(somewhere in-between .5-1mg...how Terrible of symptoms& duration do you think jumping from .5 or 1mg would be like??

Let's say it was 1mg daily for a little over a year? Just to give me an idea of the shitstorm I am in for...I think I know the answer sadly.
 
Opana313 said:
Today I did one last sublingual dose(somewhere in-between .5-1mg...how Terrible of symptoms& duration do you think jumping from .5 or 1mg would be like??

Let's say it was 1mg daily for a little over a year? Just to give me an idea of the shitstorm I am in for...I think I know the answer sadly.
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I jumped from 0,5 (sublingual) cause I couldn't get stable below 1mg no matter what. After half a year of tapering and 3 years on Subutex with average daily dose 6mg (4-8) I just couldn't stand being in perpetual withdrawal.

Overall it was hard. Hardest thig was not being able to sleep more than 30 minutes, 2-3 times a day when I would pass out. This went on for 2 weeks. After 2 weeks mark situation improved but I was not eating, had horrendous insomnia and overall anhedonia. Things were improving and somewhere between 2nd and 3rd month I started to feel more or less ok. It took me more than 6 months to get to baseline. But have in mind that I suffer from debilitating chronic pain and opioids are not my DOC. Infact untill pain started to ruin my life i never used them. From age 14 to 19 I was addicted to stimulants but I took firs opiate pill when I was 30+.

If I would give values to 3 major withdrawal type I went through it would be;

Morphine (cold turkey)
Duration: 3/10 (4 days acute, 10 days of semi withdrawal, 3 weeks overall)
Phisical pain: 10/10 (most painful experience in my life)
Mental pain: 8/10

Oxycodone (cold turkey)
Duration: 5/10 (5 days acute, 2 weeks of semi withdrawal, 4 weeks overall)
Phisical pain: 7/10
Mental pain: 8/10

Buprenorphine (with tapering)
Duration: 8/10 (14 days acute, 3 months of semi withdrawal, 6 months overall)
Phisical pain: 3/10
Mental pain: 7/10

This are just rigid and subjective estimates based on experience that I remember.

Buprenorphine was in the end most doable cause you get out of the worst fairly quickly and then is all about taking one day at a time. I wish you the strength and most importantly the perseverance. If you're not suffering pain that is ruining your life then quitting buprenorphine could be even more doable.

I sincerely wish you luck!

Psycho
 
I think snorting it is easiest. I mean booting sure. Seems like the thread thinks boofing. But me personally. I would just insufflate. It’s so easy. Scissors and cross hatch it.
 
I've been taking bupe sublingually for ~10 years and my teeth are completely fine. I really don't get what all the panic is about. I get that opioids make your mouth dry and thats bad for your oral health, but that should be the case no matter how you take it, and you will develop a tolerance to it ( and possibly even get a paradoxical effect after a while like I have, where I salivate too much when I take it.) As for whether there's another ingredient in there doing the damage idk... maybe... but I have a feeling anxiety is the primary culprit. I mean you do have a lot of it when coming off harder drugs.

But if you really want to stay away from sublingual there are other options, like sublocade where they inject a big blob of it under your skin every month. It hurts like a motherfucker. Its like a viscous consistency, almost more solid than liquid, and it leaves a bump than slowly releases into your bloodstream. And usually they want you stable on the pills before starting it. Personally, it wasn't for me. I like the taste of my subs, I like feeling the effect it gives me, even if its diminished over the years. And I really don't like the feeling of having solids injected under my skin. The pain doesn't just go away right away either. I've heard of these injections getting infected but I cannot confirm that.
 
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