fullycaffeinated
Bluelighter
He may go a little longer without too bad of withdrawals... For me day 3 is when it really starts with bupe. The luxury with bupe is that it leaves the body so gradually compared to most other opiates/opioids, that it tapers itself off a little bit in a way.
That said, the older I get and the more CT detoxes I've been through (due to lack of funds or availability when I was sourcing on the streets), the harder they got, for me. A detox like that, medically unassisted, would be tortuous for me at this point. When I was younger and detoxing off like 60 mg oxycodone, it was still awful. Anyone physically dependent on opiates will have a hard time. I never discount your experience, Evey, because I couldn't stop at that low level. If I had gone on Suboxone then, I probably would be clean by now. But people told me not to, that it would be more addictive than the low amounts I was using, and I listened for years. In 3-4 years I went from using 5-10 mg hydrocodone or oxycodone a day, orally, to sniffing upwards of 400 mg oxycodone or multiple bundles of h. THEN, by the time I did get on suboxone, it didn't even really hold me at first because the amounts I was using were so high. I mean, I had to do a minimum of 2 bundles to get high - that's if the shit was fire - I could only afford to dose once a day, and after that wore off, I was sick til I had another few hundred dollars to drop. Oxy, when I was forced to use it, just got me well with maybe a 2 min buzz. When I looked up an equivalency chart for bupe, the amount I was using in full agonists was equivalent to like 48 mg of bupe a day. But I gave it a try anyways and I'm glad I did because I did start at 20 mg/day, but it held me decently. I didn't feel great at first, but I got through it and have been able to drop tremendously in just 4 months or so. I usually use no more than 6 mg now.
If I were Owen, I'd do a week long taper - but I do understand the feeling of just wanting to be DONE WITH IT - I've been there before too. There were a few times I CT'ed from high doses, too, just because I was SICK OF IT.
That said, the older I get and the more CT detoxes I've been through (due to lack of funds or availability when I was sourcing on the streets), the harder they got, for me. A detox like that, medically unassisted, would be tortuous for me at this point. When I was younger and detoxing off like 60 mg oxycodone, it was still awful. Anyone physically dependent on opiates will have a hard time. I never discount your experience, Evey, because I couldn't stop at that low level. If I had gone on Suboxone then, I probably would be clean by now. But people told me not to, that it would be more addictive than the low amounts I was using, and I listened for years. In 3-4 years I went from using 5-10 mg hydrocodone or oxycodone a day, orally, to sniffing upwards of 400 mg oxycodone or multiple bundles of h. THEN, by the time I did get on suboxone, it didn't even really hold me at first because the amounts I was using were so high. I mean, I had to do a minimum of 2 bundles to get high - that's if the shit was fire - I could only afford to dose once a day, and after that wore off, I was sick til I had another few hundred dollars to drop. Oxy, when I was forced to use it, just got me well with maybe a 2 min buzz. When I looked up an equivalency chart for bupe, the amount I was using in full agonists was equivalent to like 48 mg of bupe a day. But I gave it a try anyways and I'm glad I did because I did start at 20 mg/day, but it held me decently. I didn't feel great at first, but I got through it and have been able to drop tremendously in just 4 months or so. I usually use no more than 6 mg now.
If I were Owen, I'd do a week long taper - but I do understand the feeling of just wanting to be DONE WITH IT - I've been there before too. There were a few times I CT'ed from high doses, too, just because I was SICK OF IT.
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