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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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I just wanted to add that I also experience the "anal fissure" problem a lot of you have mentioned.
I've had this problem for years though.
Prior to opiates I would have a BM 3-5 times per day which I believe caused the problem.
I have had digestive system issues since as long a I can remember though.
I had lots of testing done when I was a teenager but no real diagnosis was reached.
They wrote it off as IBS & unknown other problems.
I haven't really had insurance to get it properly taken care of in years but soon I will be getting it looked into again.

After getting on opiates I usually go once a day in the morning as regardless of dosing I always seem to wake up somewhat sick.
Oddly enough since getting on suboxone I've had a lot less constipation problems than with full agonists.
So I guess I may differ from others on this one.
Though I may not actually be taking enough suboxone to fully cover myself so that may be part of the reason.
Also for the past week or 2 I've been taking Docusate Sodium every 3 to 5 days which seems to help as well.

As I've mentioned earlier I've been averaging .5-1mg per day since last wednesday.
The last 2 days at .5 & today with .75mg so far.
Though 2 days prior I also added on 200mg of tramadol which actually helped immensely.
I was pleasantly surprised.
I'm hoping to stick with my current dosing for a bit & taper gradually over the next few weeks or so supply dependent.
Then jump to kratom or the like.
Then I can see what happens with my doctors appt.'s
As I'm sure some other posters in this thread can identify with having pain/health issues can make getting off opiates being a bit of a catch 22.

Regardless I just wanted to give my input on the constipation issue & an update on how things are going.
Hope everyone is doing well with there maintenance & life in general.

Oh & since we're on the topic of BM's I figure I'll throw in this little tidbit I've shared with a few friends & have received positive feedback.
For those like me who tend to wake up sick & hit the can; you take a space heater (or something similar) & pre-heat the toilet.
It makes what can be a cold & unpleasant experience much more bearable.
This works great for smokers who don't smoke indoors as well.
Turn on the heater, go outside for that morning smoke, come in to a nice warm throne.
Proceed to use your much more comfortable toilet, dose your sub or DOC & get your day going. =D

Thought I'd throw that in as it fit's with the topic at hand & has helped me dread the morning a bit less.
Also a few friends have taken it up & found it useful as well.
I guess it would depend on the person & the climate they live in but I hope that tidbit comes in handy for someone. ;)
 
^ lol the first time i WD from oxy like 5x a day i would take a blanket and throw it in the dryer then take a nice long warm shower and then when i got out the blanket would be waiting for me to heat me up.

for that first minute or so its like pure bliss.

you know everyon describes being on opiates as being wrapped in a warm blanket.....well i ACTUALLY WAS WRAPPED IN A WARM BLANKET.
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
weird that you would recommend vitamin b shots.. my old boss swore by them for every ailment that someone could possibly have and i had never heard anyone else talk about them until ^ that post :)

do they really work?
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Yes, it increases your heart rate and is rather pleasant. There is an anti-depressant quality to it, generally helps you be in a good mood.

Yesterday I was in a world of pain, and after a B12 shot, I felt a lot better.

There are a lot of issues that come about during Vitamin B12 deficiency.
 
^ i'll have to look into getting one..
thanks, i thought she (my ex boss) was just full of shit because she also claimed melatonin as being the best sleep aid ever (not her exact words, but something like that) and i laughed. but she would leave work just to go get a vitamin b shot and when she needed one she would start tweaking like an addict and i would always laugh thinking it was all placebo.
well now i guess i was wrong.. im gonna try getting one, i just hope it doesn't fuck with my bipolar disorder :\ .
 
Oh & since we're on the topic of BM's I figure I'll throw in this little tidbit I've shared with a few friends & have received positive feedback.
For those like me who tend to wake up sick & hit the can; you take a space heater (or something similar) & pre-heat the toilet.
It makes what can be a cold & unpleasant experience much more bearable.
This works great for smokers who don't smoke indoors as well.
Turn on the heater, go outside for that morning smoke, come in to a nice warm throne.
Proceed to use your much more comfortable toilet, dose your sub or DOC & get your day going.
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What's BM mean? And IBS?
 
Yeah I got diagnosed with IBS also, after i went to South America like 6 years ago, you just never shit the same.
I think some bacteria that is not harmful, just different than a typical north american gut.

Anyways, I never considered the Vitamin B12 shot. I'm a vegetarian, too, so I guess that could have a great effect on my B12 levels.

Where does one acquire a B12 shot? just a PCP?
 
Pegasus said:
Yeah, as the Cap'n said, bupe is water soluble and so the part of the pill that soaked in the water likely had the bupe carried away in the water...
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Thanks, i think i figured out that it was a combination of that and stopping gabapentin cold turkey. Dealing with Christmas newly devoid of my much loved opiates i neglected to call in my refill in time. i didn't think it would be a big deal, but upon further research i see it may have been the second extremely stupid mistake of the week.... picked it up today, tossed the old sub, and midday began to feel human again. i've certainly felt that terrible before, but not without having a lovely couple of days beforehand....i was beginning to think something was going very wrong. So, back to as normal as i get! Thanks again for the answer, and if i'm screwing up the threads or throwing out questions in the wrong places let me know.
 
Thanks for the warm toilet seat tidbit. i've never had a worse feeling than waking up sick and sitting on a freezing toilet seat when even being touched by a feather was more than i could handle. Just hideous. i've figured it out eventually, but its nice to know it's a common enough problem that people are working on solutions. It really was THE WORST. Thanks for caring.
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
i just hope it doesn't fuck with my bipolar disorder :\ .
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AFAIK it should help, mania and depression can result from Vitamin B12 deficiency.

You can always try 0.5 mL instead of 1 mL at first to see how it effects you.

8L4YN3 said:
These shots were invented by satan himself! :X Seriously has anyone else had a b12 shot before? They're fucking super painful injection..
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How are they painful?

If you hit a nerve you should replace the needle.

What gauge did you use?

The only time I felt pain from a Vitamin B12 shot is when I was on a nerve.

Also where did you do your shot? Some muscles work better than others.
 
so for about 4-5 months ive used 100-200oxy semi daily.

ive been clean a week now and got some subutex. Call me a junkie but i wanna get high off this stuff. I just snorted 4mg and im not feelin much.

whatcha think? more? less?
 
Captain.Heroin said:
AFAIK it should help, mania and depression can result from Vitamin B12 deficiency.

You can always try 0.5 mL instead of 1 mL at first to see how it effects you.



How are they painful?

If you hit a nerve you should replace the needle.

What gauge did you use?

The only time I felt pain from a Vitamin B12 shot is when I was on a nerve.

Also where did you do your shot? Some muscles work better than others.
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Shoulder muscle on left side mate, no idea what gauge, but its burnt like fuck as it was injected into me, perhaps i could be thinking of another chemical..Weird.
 
Hmmm, I used Diphenhydramine with 1/2 gm of sniffed H last night after 3 n 1/2 months of Subutex/Suboxone. The 1st time to try it in Canada and It's quite expensive for a 1 day high, glad i can't afford to do it more. One of the main reason i relocated was to get away from my 10-year habit, and i'm not too happy i found this connect. Back to my Sub today, but mind wondering why have i decided to do it, i mean i text the guy saying what's up, having in mind some Oxy's to do it with my gf (i only tried them twice and didn't really feel much because i didn't take enough...around 160 mg) so he said he got H, thought about being H-less for the past few months and that this is the 1st time ever in my life that i will feel the high after all this sobriety since in 10 years I never quit H more than 3 weeks! Typical twisted thinking! Not too happy about my decision today but trying to move on. I just wanted to get high for 1 day and i did, never having any intention in mind to get back into that vicious circle of addiction, no way, saying that now more than ever. I hope i can really throw that night behind me!

I also started researching online Kratom sites and checking the prices. I'm currently on 3 mg of Suboxone, will get back to Subutex for the last 10 pills that i will taper with, going as low as 0.2, and hopefully it wont be too hard to just live opiates-free. I do love weed, and love having it in my life and i also enjoy drinking wine with dinner...life shouldn't be too bad :)
 
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^You should be fine man, just stick to your plan! I'm in a similar situation as you right now...
 
^I think you shouldn't expect to get too strong of an effect from bupe beyond what you have experienced... By snorting it, you are definitely increasing the intensity of the effects, but more than 4mg snorted is probably not going to do anything better. In fact, I'd recommend trying for maybe 2-3mg sported per day, broken maybe into two 1 -1.5mg or so doses... that works for many people to actually increase effects, by decreasing the dose to this level or even lower.
 
Pegasus said:
^You should be fine man, just stick to your plan! I'm in a similar situation as you right now...
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I get these dark worrying feelings that i'll have to be opiated all my life, and think of marriage, kids and bla bla..
Then again, i think that i did make a big move already and relocated and doing well with my low doses of Subs, i was even considering Kratom and Soberville!
Then one night i decided to get high and i did, but that's it right? Life goes on, i can't even afford it!

I hope it turns out well for you
 
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