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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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^^ Yeah, high doses of any opiates make me feel like shit. Once time when i came >>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<< <---- That close to over dosing once i woke up from unconsciousness i felt like shit ALL day, hot, sweaty, nauseous, fatigued. I got the hot and sweaty from heroin from lower over doses as well, where it wasn't so bad that i fell out just did way to much. I get the same exact symptoms from almost every drug i have "over dosed" on. Nicotine, cocaine, heroin, I think there is one more though i can't remember. Those all gave me virtually the same symptoms at a mild over dose.

Anyway, I'll give an update. It's the beginning of my third day. It's been aprox. 66 hours since i last took suboxone. Woke up today for the first time with mild symptoms of withdrawal, though i woke up later in the day then yesterday or the day before so i wouldn't have been feeling this those days too if i had woken up later. Just took today's first dose of kratom. Probably going to take a gabapentin or two. So far I have been taking kratom twice a day, with the second dose lasting like 15-16 hours before needing to dose more. The second dose i take before that simply because i want to try and go to sleep, not because i 'need' it yet. I think there was something else i wanted to report/add to this but meh - i forget. So I'll leave it at this. I'll edit this in a bit to report how my first dose of kratom in my third day off sub is working. Lets see if it works any less then the first two days.

Edit- My dose is kicking in and i feel much better, so far looks like its going to make me feel totally normal again like the first 2 days. :)
 
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Thanks, I can't describe how glad I am that I waited until I could get the kratom before starting this. I am genuinely surprised at how much it has helped so far - Im STILL doing better in terms of withdrawal than i would be if i had just stayed at .5mgs a day since i wasn't stable yet at that dose.


This is interesting, For the first time since I began my bupe detox the kratom has given my a slight buzz, but i haven't increased the dose at all, just took 6 grams like usual. Maybe it's because the bupe is totally out of my system and/or because today was the first time i was even in slight withdrawal before taking it. (it was also the longest i went between a dose, it wasn't because the kratom didn't last as long).

Either way i can't complain, a slight buzz is always nice. :)
 
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uhh like 150 mg a day...

from when i woke up till went to bed like every 2-3 hrs usually but didn't always have that much/
 
dcp use this to figure out if it's been long enough. It's the clinical opioid withdrawal scale for figuring out if it's been long enough to avoid precipitated withdrawals. For oxycodone it recommends at least 12-24 hours and a score of between 5 and 24.

Good luck, let us know what happens. :)
 
that's a fairly small habit. you should be fine. everyone's different, of course. i remember just a few days ago, another user with a 240/day habit went into bad precip wd after waiting 22 hours. this is not the norm, but it is something to think about. best to wait till you really can't take it.
 
dpc1192 said:
im at like 10-13
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COWS

I'm gonna snort 2 mg Sub now.

my eyes are watery and my nose is runny..

i think that's the point i'm supposed to be.. I also feel extremely out of it and aches.

stomach cramps.

i mean i've been worse, but I think i'm definitely in W/D and ready/

just snorted the sub
 
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hey guys... just wanted to get some feedback on this.

i usually take around 4mg of sub a day, maybe a little more on rough ones. well anyway, i stumbled across some heroin, which was free and available less than 2 hours after i took my morning dose of sub (2mg) well needless to say i didnt feel it hardly at all (IV), so i got some for later, waited until my sub wore off after about 36 hours and did the rest. had fun.

i then did 30mg oxycodone iv the next day, and afterwards waited 24 hours until i took my sub again - 4mg. i was in pretty bad withdrawal, or atleast it felt like it. i didn't get hardly ANY sleep last night, and i didnt feel any precipitated withdrawal after taking it. well about an hour after taking it I threw up my breakfast i had just eatonton, and a can of soda, right the middle of a store (it just hit me, and i couldnt make it to a trash can.) anyway, as the day has went by i've felt worse and worse, my joints are KILLING me to the point i've considered going to the hospital.

it's both of my shoulders, my neck, and my lower back. i haven't felt nauseous anymore and i haven't had any RLS, which is my biggest sign of withdrawal. I'm just wondering if anyone thinks any of this could be connected, i've never felt this bad after taking suboxone, even when i've gotten a little precipitated withdrawal. i also don't think i'm sick, because i don't feel anything like that either. anyway, any feedback would be awesome. i've gotta stop typing because my shoulders are fucking killing me.
 
cool DPC. let us know how you're feeling. it's good for others looking to gauge their readiness. i've been following Caseface's reports on using kratom to come off subs as i'll be doing the same soon. mine comes in the mail tomorrow.

hopefully you'll be feeling better real soon! good luck!
 
i feel pretty good..

i feel pretty anxious though

im starting to feel more relaxed..

overall i took 4mg
 
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i need some help figuring out my situation.
I am addicted to OC. take about 160-240 mg a day, smoked.
i finally got an appt with a suboxone doctor yesterday. I had thought I would start the therapy that day. However, after hearing that I had indulged the previous evening, he decided that he wanted me to be dignificantly more sick form withdrawal efore starting the therapy. so he put off the start until tomorrow and sent me home to my junkie boyfriend. like i am going to abstain and go through hell for 2 and half days. if i had that kind of willpower, I would need him or the subs.
so, of course, i fucked up. it is 4 in the afternoon and I just had about 90 mgs of generic oc.
I an worried that I will not be sick enough and get kicked out of the program tomorrow.
btw, the meeting yesterday was at 9:15 am. i got up at 7 to get there in time and he didn't se me until 10:15 or so. by that time i had stomach cramping, yawns, runny nose and some sneezing. i had a bit of trembling.
is there a way that i can make myself sick enough for him to be happy? if i stay up all night without indulging, would that help? or at least stay up late, get up super early? does being awake and aware encourage the symptoms more than sleeping them off?
he prescribed ativan, clonidine and belladonna alkaloids to help with the symptoms of withdrawal and also, he prescriber generic subutex so there is no noloxone.

am i fucked or could i just tell him i have been taking all the extra things he prescribed to keep the withdrawals symptoms at bay?
 
oxyfugazi said:
i need some help figuring out my situation.
I am addicted to OC. take about 160-240 mg a day, smoked.
i finally got an appt with a suboxone doctor yesterday. I had thought I would start the therapy that day. However, after hearing that I had indulged the previous evening, he decided that he wanted me to be dignificantly more sick form withdrawal efore starting the therapy. so he put off the start until tomorrow and sent me home to my junkie boyfriend. like i am going to abstain and go through hell for 2 and half days. if i had that kind of willpower, I would need him or the subs.
so, of course, i fucked up. it is 4 in the afternoon and I just had about 90 mgs of generic oc.
I an worried that I will not be sick enough and get kicked out of the program tomorrow.
btw, the meeting yesterday was at 9:15 am. i got up at 7 to get there in time and he didn't se me until 10:15 or so. by that time i had stomach cramping, yawns, runny nose and some sneezing. i had a bit of trembling.
is there a way that i can make myself sick enough for him to be happy? if i stay up all night without indulging, would that help? or at least stay up late, get up super early? does being awake and aware encourage the symptoms more than sleeping them off?
he prescribed ativan, clonidine and belladonna alkaloids to help with the symptoms of withdrawal and also, he prescriber generic subutex so there is no noloxone.

am i fucked or could i just tell him i have been taking all the extra things he prescribed to keep the withdrawals symptoms at bay?
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If you go in tommarow in withdrawal you will be fine to take the subutex. It's not like he can feel what you're feeling, he isn't going to know how deep you are into withdrawal. It's impossible for him to detirmine exactly how sick you are by looking at you, he's going to ask you what your symptoms are. I'm sure you will be in withdrawal so just describe the symptoms your having. I really wouldn't worry about it, you're gonna be fine
 
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You did double your dose, maybe that has something to do with it?
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Hmmm, is it the switch from 3 months of Subutex to One night of 6 mg Suboxone?
Well, i called my doc and told him that he wrote Suboxone instead of Subutex, and that i drove all the freakin' way from Canada to go pick it up and BAM!!!!
To my surprise, he was like "oh, give me the pharma number and i will fix that" Of course gave it to him, but don't feel like freakin' driving for 3 hours again!!! Hmm!!
Well, this is my question now, can the pharma take back the rest of the Suboxone i still have?? The last time i gave them back when i discovered they weren't Subutex, the bottle was still unopened! Don't feel like having to take those 8 pills!! Is the doc saying i will fix that anything to do with the possibility of them taking back the rest of the pills? Would appreciate any answers please, just to know my rights!

And to be fair i just took 3.5 mg of Suboxone and no sign of that headache i had yesterday. Bearing in mind that yesterday, i had been driving for a few hours, dehydrated, stoned and actually in a weird Sadomasochistic way, was trying to convince myself of that headache because i was all worked up from that whole drive/fuck up, and wanted to conclude that Suboxone is bad for me and that i should stick to Subutex. I mean i'm feeling very fine and don't even want to stop writing, haha :) I'm still going to get those last 30 or maybe 20 now, depending on what will i do with those 8 orange fuckers i still got!

I don't want to call the pharma and ask if they got it all sorted out with the doc, who said he would called them a few hours ago, and that they have my Subutex without knowing from you about the return policy of RiteAid or pharmas i general, i'v never been in such a situation before so i appreciate your help, the wicked pills (as i call my Subutex sometimes) are still not cheap, even after getting those Generic Teva.
 
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I'm feeling pretty good!

4 mgs Suboxone.. Thinking about maybe taking another mg before bed.
 
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