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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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By the way ,sorry about filling it up (again lol) with all these random posts but I need to say that after just having tried 6/7's alcohol method I virtually feel no different had I used 2mgs instead of 1mg(roughly), just hope the BA follows the same logic ...as a matter of fact I have this impression it might just be as easy to taper down from 2mgs to 1mg as it was to taper from 4mgs to 2mgs ...from what I read in here it's only when you quit it altogether that things start to get rough.
 
fistful_of_needles said:
By the way ,sorry about filling it up (again lol) with all these random posts but I need to say that after just having tried 6/7's alcohol method I virtually feel no different had I used 2mgs instead of 1mg(roughly), just hope the BA follows the same logic ...as a matter of fact I have this impression it might just be as easy to taper down from 2mgs to 1mg as it was to taper from 4mgs to 2mgs ...from what I read in here it's only when you quit it altogether that things start to get rough.
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yeah you can taper down to <1mg doses and still be fine and then its when you completely stop thats when you'll feel like shit.. but im one of those people who believe reducing your dose to say .5mg or .25mg a day and then jumping off will make the transition a lot easier.
 
fistful_of_needles said:
Indeed man, had no idea of this ...that surely put me off the idea of snorting or/and IVing them ,I mean hahha 98% fillers in these things WTF ???!!!
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Well to be honest, Subutex is significantly smaller than Suboxone.

Plus, it's not that bad at all. Some pills are < %1 active ingredient.

OC is probably one of the most "pure" pills that i can think of off of the top of my head. I think it gets close to being 30%-33% active ingredient. I am not 100% sure though.

But for snorting purposes, yeah it's best to go for pills that have more active ingredient. For example the generic doxylamine succinate tablets I have each have 25mg and they're very small, hence snorting it is a bit more efficient.
 
the generic doxylamine tabs i have remind me of little blue xanax footballs that can be broke in half, they're 25mg also.

sorry off topic but just wanted to say that.
 
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HdoubleODeezy said:
the generic doxylamine tabs i have remind me of little blue xanax footballs that can be broke in half, they're 25mg also.

sorry off topic but just wanted to say that.
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It's OK man. Off topic convo happens here a lot.

As for on topic discussion, I recently tapered a step lower.

I created 1.25mg/mL solution, so now I'm taking 125mcg at a time, instead of 1.5mg/mL (150mcg at a time). I can barely tell the difference.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
It's OK man. Off topic convo happens here a lot.

As for on topic discussion, I recently tapered a step lower.

I created 1.25mg/mL solution, so now I'm taking 125mcg at a time, instead of 1.5mg/mL (150mcg at a time). I can barely tell the difference.
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nice.. are you still catchin a buzz off it? or are you at too low of a dose for that now?
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Yes, I get a rush and a high off of it. I seem to get the same amount of euphoria even if I lower the dose more and more as time goes on.
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wow.. it sounds like your tolerance is dropping at the same time you lower your dose.. or does it take a couple days at the new dose to let your tolerance drop to feel the rush and high?
 
russianrambozo said:
umm more like the opposite of evil. imo, soemthing that stays in ur system, and builds in ur fat, where ur body stores everything it likes, more likely equates to something less harmful to your health
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great thing you remind me of solid/green ,it usually works wonders on me while on low Sub doses ,completely erasing any traces of cravings or temptation to indulge in my DOC once I use it with Bupre and some benzos of choice. hahahah@ "weed is Evil" , it is indeed VERY evil these days if I dare smoke a joint with no opiate in me whatsoever to tame it down
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
wow.. it sounds like your tolerance is dropping at the same time you lower your dose.. or does it take a couple days at the new dose to let your tolerance drop to feel the rush and high?
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It seems I actually get better rushes/highs with lower amounts of buprenorphine. I know how insane that sounds but I'm feeling 110% great off of 125mcg.

russianrambozo said:
umm more like the opposite of evil. imo, soemthing that stays in ur system, and builds in ur fat, where ur body stores everything it likes, more likely equates to something less harmful to your health
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Weed is awesome and not evil. Anyone who thinks weed is evil is living in the dark ages.

THC is a potential cure for cancer.

For the record, any micron filtering concerns can now be discussed in this thread.
 
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well, alcohol increases sublingual absorption/bioavailability which is important for a drug like sub because bupe has a very low oral availability.

in the case of benzos though, most have a very high oral bioavailability so i cant see how there would be any benefit of increasing the sublingual absorption via alcohol.

it all ends up in your stomach anyway, so with benzos (high oral bio) that's a good thing, while with bupe (low oral bio) you want to absorb as much as possible in your mouth before it ends up in your stomach.
 
fistful_of_needles said:
hmmm , and then again off topic but I can't help but wonder how 6/7's alcohol method would work with benzos since most of them are ethanol soluble.
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Most benzos have high SL BA's anyways. It'd be interesting to see if there's even a slight/modest boost...but most benzos I use orally and not sublingually (except for Ativan and Halcion).

Actually, Halcion only has a 10% increase from SLing it over Oral, 50 to 60%. Possibly adding some ethanol with Halcion might potentiate it! If this is true I'd love to find this out before I et more Halcion (I've only tried a single 0.25mg pill, it was fantastic).

Brose said:
in the case of benzos though, most have a very high oral bioavailability so i cant see how there would be any benefit of increasing the sublingual absorption via alcohol.
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While that's mostly correct, midazolam and triazolam have a lot to gain from a boost in BA if it's possible.
 
I Just SMOKED Suboxone on FOIL, it runs like OC and Black Tar Heroin!!!

Super high, been noddy 2 days straight smoking stop signs.
Try a little tiny heat under the foil if you don't believe me, you need a 1/8th pill or approx. 1mg
It runs like BTH and tastes just like smoking OC. I'm wayyyyyyyy high!!


Are there any risks/dangers I should be aware of here?
 
Hmmm,this Ibogaine method ...for some reason I'm kinda skeptical about putting some hallucinogen in my system while withdrawing from opiates .But yeah,I've also read a few reports on the method which have left me pretty curious as to its efficiency.
 
russianrambozo said:
so ive been on sub mt for awhile. im presc 1 1/2daily but past two weeks went on a binge of full agonists when i found out withdrawal from sub lasts over a month.(trying to lower sub levels in my system) The past year when i needed sub id take about 4mgiv but have recently found this is a waste. For the past week and a half ive done about 1.5mgiv a day. two doses. im actually starting to feel the meds again while my tolerance is getting so much lower. do u think i could drop down to .5mg twiceaday now or should i wait a week. ive been feeling mild withdrawal since lowering my dose(flashes, cant sleep for more than 4 hours)

also have yall checked out the ibogaine videos on youtube? has anyone tried this method of detox, people testify to getting off subs and high doses of methadone in less than a week with little to no symptoms.
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Yeah keep dropping your dose as you feel comfortable. I use 125mcg at a time (1/8 of 1mg) about 4-6 times per day max. I get decently high and a rush every time I dose.

As you keep going to lower doses, there'll be less and less WD symptoms eventually as you have some as you go lower and lower.

I skipped from 150mcg/dose to 125mcg/dose instead of jumping to 133.3...mcg/dose in between the two steps.

I'll probably revise the taper based on the speed I'm going with it.
 
hahahh "1/8 of 1mg" , this is crazy ,I had no clue whatsoever one could go as far as that and still feel its effects ... I'm personally still very far from this scenario , I do not feel "right" on anything under 2mgs ,if I manage to remain on 1.5 mgs till the 21st of this month(when I'll be getting my refill) I'm going to try and remain there ,it's been a bit complicated , I mean , using 6/7s alcohol suggestion I do not feel much of a difference between 2mgs and 1.5mgs (roughly) effectwise , I've just been under the impression that the effects do not last as long as when I was on 2-3mgs just a few days ago (in comparison to the 1.5mgs I've been on lately)...still,no major discomfort ,nothing that would cause me to relapse or anything ,guess it's got to be like this , a progressive minor discomfort till you eventually quit it altogether.
 
Hey so today is day 2 for me i felt shitty this morning and i had about 2mg of subutex, I took 1mg and i feel great w/ds are gone for now. What should i do with the last mg i have? How bad should i expect the w/d's to be when i am out of subutex?

Thanks
 
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