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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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^ I have experienced NO pain relief AT ALL from Sub.. I've been on it for 6 months and I have a torn ACL that has now caused early arthritis and it still hurts every single day... But I think it might provide SOME pain relief for some people... But not me..
 
As i've said in several threads like these, I've nodded HARD just 12 hours after taking 14mgs Subutex.

It really does seem to alter from person to person.

I've found that lower dose os Sub (2mg or less) doesn't have ANY blockade effect at all. It probably does for some though...

You see what I'm getting at - yeah?
 
cire113 said:
Anyone have any thoughts on sub for pain relief?
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i've got spondylosis and transdermal bupe worked consistently well with controlling the majority of my pain over the period of time i was scripted. i've used suboxone from the street and it worked exactly the same. norspan(transdermal bupe patches) is being used considerably widely in australia on patients with persistant chronic pain and was being researched into the use of the patches for maintenance and detox as well. i'm now on fentanyl patches now due to an allergic reaction to the silicone adhesive on the bupe.

the patches come in 3 different strengths (pics in my gallery) 5mcg/hr (5mg total), 10mcg/hr (10mg total) and 20mcg/hr (20mg total). unlike the fent patches, these are a 7 day patch.
 
damn i gave a friend 4mg of suboxone and it totally fucked him over. he was puking straight for like 6-10 hours then puking on and off for the next 2-4 hrs. shit is stronger than i suspected. i am down to 3mg nowadays, but i never imagined 4mg fucking someone up like that even with no tolerance...
 
unsui said:
damn i gave a friend 4mg of suboxone and it totally fucked him over. he was puking straight for like 6-10 hours then puking on and off for the next 2-4 hrs. shit is stronger than i suspected. i am down to 3mg nowadays, but i never imagined 4mg fucking someone up like that even with no tolerance...
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You didn't think an opiate more potent than heroin would fuck someone up with no tolerance?

Gee whiz...and I thought smoking a gram of meth wouldn't get my friend too fucked up with no stimulant tolerance....
 
Tapering sub...I smell a relapse

So I'm down to less than a fourth of an 8 mg tablet of Suboxone, taken sublingually every morning or every other morning...so a little less than 2 mg. I've just been shaving my doses down progressively.
I'm already feeling the withdrawal creeping up on me like an assassin...only this assassin wants to torture me not kill me:\
I have Vicodin and Dilaudid at my disposal if I really need it...can I take low doses of these opiates and not fuck myself over? I don't want to be an opiate addict again, fuck all that shit. I'm just severely amotivational, I have to psyche myself up just to leave the house. Aside from that, I feel the typical physical symptoms; runny nose, watery eyes, "kicky" arms and legs...they are bearable, but the complete lack of motivation is hurting me (my wife is getting pissed at me for not getting anything done:\)
I also have Focalin and Vyvanse at my disposal if truly needed...will these help? Anybody out there been through what I am describing. Advice, opinions are greatly welcomed and appreciated.
 
Eagleman said:
So I'm down to less than a fourth of an 8 mg tablet of Suboxone, taken sublingually every morning or every other morning...so a little less than 2 mg. I've just been shaving my doses down progressively.
I'm already feeling the withdrawal creeping up on me like an assassin...only this assassin wants to torture me not kill me:\
I have Vicodin and Dilaudid at my disposal if I really need it...can I take low doses of these opiates and not fuck myself over? I don't want to be an opiate addict again, fuck all that shit. I'm just severely amotivational, I have to psyche myself up just to leave the house. Aside from that, I feel the typical physical symptoms; runny nose, watery eyes, "kicky" arms and legs...they are bearable, but the complete lack of motivation is hurting me (my wife is getting pissed at me for not getting anything done:\)
I also have Focalin and Vyvanse at my disposal if truly needed...will these help? Anybody out there been through what I am describing. Advice, opinions are greatly welcomed and appreciated.
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Congratulations on tapering down to 2mg every day to every other day.

You can take hydrocodone or hydromorphone, but ideally you won't need to. If you want to take these, I would wait a few hours after your Suboxone dose. I would still say - just stick with the Suboxone.

Runny nose, watery eyes are normal WD symptoms you will experience no matter what opiate you use to come down. However, if you taper a bit slower (or give yourself some more time for the 2mg dose to become less unpleasant) then you shouldn't really experience the "kicks" so to speak.

Don't let your wife get angry at you for not getting anything done; would she rather you relapse and then DEFINITELY not get anything done - indefinitely? Of course not.

Let her know you're going through a tapering process and you'll be back up in time, it'll just take patience and will power.

I would advise not taking d-methylphenidate or d-amp; this might make the situation worse. However, others find great motivation from one or the other. If you do use one or the other here, I would use small doses, after your Suboxone (to make yourself more motivated - but being careful not to become dependent on stimulants).

Good luck on the taper, and feel free to ask more questions in this thread and I'll be back to reply.
 
subisjustokay said:
I know I've said it before but Capt. H is the best!
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Hahaha...

yeah. I didn't mean to offend who I replied to with that - I was having a severely bad day. Hell, this whole month has been utter shit.

If I ever truly offend anyone here, please let me know as I never really mean to offend anyone.

Here's what I've had to go through this month:

* fiancee's car broke down - still in shop
* my hot water heater broke a pipe - leaked for 8 to 12 hours before I noticed
* I blew 2 tires on the interstate - had to pay > $200 just for one tow, and two new tires.
* My checking account has bounced - and I am in the hole more than $100. This is due to fraudulent activity on the part of some very dis-reputable businesses who have taken advantage of people's desire to get ahead in life.

That's not really it either...I also don't have a classroom for one of my classes. I'm supposed to show up - early - to a room, and then my teacher is supposed to show up - and then we will all go to "the classroom" ... for the day.

Oh, and that's not something I "know" - that's what some dumb bitch told me over the phone and she said "I'm not sure though". :X - So, it IS possible that I actually DO have a classroom somewhere that I need to be going to - and NO ONE (I called 3 different numbers) can tell me where it is.

The college I am attending is FUCKING INCREDIBLY INCOMPETENT AND WORTHLESS.

That really isn't everything either...there's more, but that's all I'm going to divulge at the moment.
 
subisjustokay said:
^ That really sucks... all of it... but at least I get to read some of you're funny comments it produces...

seriously though.. sorry such a shitty month
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Thank you...I can use all the mental support I can get to prevent a neurotic episode.

I'm doing my best to stave off horrid anxiety and anger...and I'm doing well but my mental break lines are about to *SNAP* :(

Well, I've been clean for 10 months...I have that to look forward to.

I just hate it when you have 10x the crap you actually want on your plate...and it's just one endless task after another...
 
^ Really... that's crazy, I've been clean 10 months as well (Minus all the BS you're having to deal with though)... it was 10 months on the 26th actually but still.... what a coincidence...

Congrats on the sobriety!
 
subisjustokay said:
^ Really... that's crazy, I've been clean 10 months as well (Minus all the BS you're having to deal with though)... it was 10 months on the 26th actually but still.... what a coincidence...

Congrats on the sobriety!
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Yeah, I last used heroin on Oct 19th of last year.

I'm pretty happy, minus all the BS as you said.

Congratulations as well. I hope to make it to the 1 year mark in Oct.
 
----->Moving to Captain.Heroin's "Why do I get all the shitty luck?" megathread.
Hang in there man. I've had some shitty breaks recently myself.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Yeah, I last used heroin on Oct 19th of last year.

I'm pretty happy, minus all the BS as you said.

Congratulations as well. I hope to make it to the 1 year mark in Oct.
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Yea... My path to sobriety seems to have been A LOT easier process then yours... Just 15 days ago... I started a 6 days stretch where I profited 1800$ (legally).. but that story is for a different thread... anyways you're stronger then I... GOOD LUCK
 
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