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Bupe Suboxone - Actually Getting Clean

OpiatEuphoria

OpiatEuphoria

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Hey bluelighters. I'm 21 years old (actually) and I've been taking morphine, then oxy, then every other one to 40mg Opanas, Fentanyl patches etc, mixed with benzos and weed for 5 years. I quit a year ago and was on suboxone for the past year on a 2mg/day habit, along with a 1mg Klonopin habit, along with a nicotine habit. I'm in my fourth year going for pharmacology but I don't think an addict can be around all that temptation. Like a alcoholic working in a bar. I stopped suboxone after tapering the dosage to 1mg/day for a month. I've been off it for my 6th day today. I've been smoking weed, taking my klonopin ( 4mg/day script since I was 17, along with a 60 30mg Adderall script, don't take the adderall tho), drinking beer here and there, gabapentin 400mg Pills (I know, I can get Lyrica no problem tho,), and listening to hella music. My physical symptoms are disappearing rapidly and my withdrawal hasn't been that bad honestly. Nothing like a 300mg/day morphine habit, that's a extra long and extra horrible nightmare). I have slept every night since and I haven't been having savage diaherria, small hot flashes, lower back pain but not that intense. I just feel super focused and sharp as fuck. I still feel like I am withdrawaling, just a little tho. My question is: Why is my withdrawal not that intense like I've been reading lately, and when will it be completely over. It's 8:00 in the morning right now where I live (Fresno) but I'll see if it gets better or worse. Right now I'm fine.
 
a lot of variables

I agree with the above poster. Another reason might be the fact that you are taking gabapentin. That drug for me has almost always made withdrawal for me a lot easier especially benzos and opiates. But like the other guy said the fact that you are young. Every time you detox it gets harder on you. While at this point in your life you may able to bounce back from a habit in a few days this might not be the case 10 years and 20 detoxes from now. Try to quit while you are young, that is the advice myself and countless others wish we had taken. At this stage in my life i often find myself not feeling right for months on what might seem like a relatively short run on opiates.
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Yeah that was one thought. My brain is still developing and my body is still growing. Well I'm 6'1 but I hope I don't get any taller. But I have detoxed more or less than 20 times in my life. I started when I was 17. I tried to get clean around that time because I could already admit I was an addict and I was going to NA and AA back then. Everybody in those meetings kept telling me they have never seen someone so young in NA. But those detoxes were just withdrawals really. It was because I would run out or I was moving them around but didn't want to do them. Those only lasted a few weeks at max and it wasn't suboxone withdrawals, they were morphine withdrawals almost every time. I never had to pay for my habit since 17 so it was super easy. I've been feeling psychological withdrawals and minor amounts of lethargic-ness. I have a legally blind mom so I gotta drive her everywhere and I live in the mountains so Fresno(Town) is 30 minutes or so from here. But I go anyway, listening to my iPod in the car. And I can walk around and actually be happy about things. I just wanted to finally post. I've been looking for information from this site and erowid for years and years now and I finally wanted to post because there are alot of people on here that know their shit.

BTW: To the above posters, thanx for the replies. I'm 21 and I feel old but young inside. I have social anxiety disorder and wonderful doctors and a psychiatrist I've been seeing since I was 15, when I got kicked out of my high school for morphine (Dumbass, I know, normally I'm extremely sly, even when I was that young). My psych will give me klonopin anytime I need it so that is an endless supply. It has been for a looong time. But anyway, I am actually making a dash at leaving opiates behind in my history. I want them gone forever and I feel way better without that opiate-chain tugging on me and waking up every morning feeling like shit and taking opiates right when I wake up. I am DONE
 
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I'm glad to hear you are leaving them behind. You will get a lot more out of life. I don't think there is too many opiate addicts that can say they are truly happy. Its a miserable way to live ones life. Best of luck to you and if you find yourself not feeling completely better after a week of so, give it time. The body and brain might take some time to completely repair itself, but you will find out that every day gets a little bit easier. The mind and body are amazing in their ability to heal from all the bull shit we put ourselves through.
 
Just to play devil's advocate...

Are there really that many people who can say they are really happy regardless though?

Don't mean to get this thread off track... Just couldn't help myself. I think my happiness today has less to do with opioids than it does a combo of other factors (drug related, environmental and biological), so in a way I agree with you. However, now that opioids are a force of stability in my life, albeit a force that has grown much smaller over the last couple years, I find them to be a positive tool I can work with for the time being. But yes, still a VERY fine line. Too me a looooong time to get here... And frankly I don't intend to stay here that long in the scope of things.

Glad to hear you're making the transition smoothly OP! I can only hope I will be able to make it likewise. Then again, I also been using my bupe "properly" and certainly intend to continue doing so until I'm off it.
 
Yeah so I'm on 11th day now and I found out my girlfriend is pregnant. But anyways, I had hardcore RLS last night and still diaherra in the morning and that's all. I haven't been eating as much and I have been taking alot of gabapentin.
 
Congrats! (?) You probably already know this, but loperamide will fix your stomach up right quick. I also find psyllium/Metamucil to help a lot. Doesn't the gaba help with the RLS? Can you get any lyrica?

Make sure you're drinking lot of liquids, and if you're not eating much specifically Gatorade. Also try to get as much fruits and veggies as possible. I find fruits to be the best because of the natural sugars, fiber and the fact that I've always found them easy on the palate.

The w/d from your suboxone will probably linger for 2 weeks and still be noticeable for a month thereafter. They will be fairly minor, or hopefully your symptoms will be, but they will linger for quite a long time. Too bad you didn't taper down to 0.25mg before jumping off the subs.

BTW don't keep drinking on the gaba for a really long time. Some people don't have any trouble with gaba w/d, but others find it horrible (people who's been on a medium-high dose for about a year or year+). The alcohol will only make the w/d much, much worse if you continue to drink with the gaba for a long time. Then again, your k-pins should mask the w/d symptom from the gaga/alcohol, so I doubt you'll be in too much discomfort. But first thing's first - deal with your suboxone detox and then and only then move on. One step as a time...

Fucking cliches ;\ ;)
 
I haven't drank any alcohol since the day I first posted. But my withdrawal feels lingering. Longer than morphine or oxy.
 
Yup, that I imagine it would. Should linger much long than either of those. W/D from a large morphine habit might approach the longevity of suboxone w/d, although it would probably be more intense.
 
Congrats Bro, sounds like you're almost there, I'll catch up to you soon, I'm on the 8th day without anything :D
 
OpiatEuphoria said:
Yeah so I'm on 11th day now and I found out my girlfriend is pregnant. But anyways, I had hardcore RLS last night and still diaherra in the morning and that's all. I haven't been eating as much and I have been taking alot of gabapentin.
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What's the legality of abortion in the state of California?
 
It's legal as fuck but not happening ( Not My Call Obviusly) But I got a pretty sweet scenero cuz she's awesome, doesn't do drugs and rich. Anyway, I took 3 norcos yesterday and 2 this morning. I had 5 laying around and I eventually wanted to take some. I'm out but was wondering if this is going to majorly fuck up my withdrawal. Kinda freaked a little. But holy shit 2 norcos fucked me up like an 80 used to. I love the super low tolerence of opiates.
 
Well, it won't help, but you won't go all the way back to square one from 5 norcos over two days. That would realllly suck if that happened. highly doubt it.
 
OpiatEuphoria said:
It's legal as fuck but not happening ( Not My Call Obviusly) But I got a pretty sweet scenero cuz she's awesome, doesn't do drugs and rich. Anyway, I took 3 norcos yesterday and 2 this morning. I had 5 laying around and I eventually wanted to take some. I'm out but was wondering if this is going to majorly fuck up my withdrawal. Kinda freaked a little. But holy shit 2 norcos fucked me up like an 80 used to. I love the super low tolerence of opiates.
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You mean her father's rich.


So, you just happened to have some Norcos (five nonetheless!) lying around the house for a rainy day and now you've relapsed. If you're serious about getting clean then you can't have narcotics in the house. You need to go back to NA or AA, IMO.
 
They weren't laying around for a rainy day. I actually just found them in my safe, buried where the holes to nail it down were. I took them because I wanted to, but not because I've been out. I'm just trying to stay clean. I figured if I took those 5 then the withdrawal wouldn't get any worse cuz I didnt do any opiates for 14 days, now it's been 2, still off suboxone but that is also an opiate
 
OpiatEuphoria said:
They weren't laying around for a rainy day. I actually just found them in my safe, buried where the holes to nail it down were. I took them because I wanted to, but not because I've been out. I'm just trying to stay clean. I figured if I took those 5 then the withdrawal wouldn't get any worse cuz I didnt do any opiates for 14 days, now it's been 2, still off suboxone but that is also an opiate
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Anyway, I took 3 norcos yesterday and 2 this morning. I had 5 laying around and I eventually wanted to take some.


That's what was in your earlier post. It doesn't make sense to me. Why didn't you just throw them out if you wanted to stay clean? This sort of shit happens, trust me, but you've got to have a plan for when you want to use because you know how to find drugs if you want them. We all do.
 
OpiatEuphoria said:
It's legal as fuck but not happening ( Not My Call Obviusly) But I got a pretty sweet scenero cuz she's awesome, doesn't do drugs and rich. Anyway, I took 3 norcos yesterday and 2 this morning. I had 5 laying around and I eventually wanted to take some. I'm out but was wondering if this is going to majorly fuck up my withdrawal. Kinda freaked a little. But holy shit 2 norcos fucked me up like an 80 used to. I love the super low tolerence of opiates.
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Wait..you don't ACTUALLY think you're prepared for this because she is "rich", do you? Wait..let me guess, you probably mean her PARENTS are rich, considering her age. So, since her mom and pop got the loot, its okay? I don't know where you stand politically on this, but I am a proud as fuck pro-choice chick. I would look into adoption ASAP.

I do wish you luck on getting clean. That is the truth.
 
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